DNP at low body fat percentage

[RzSco]

I just used DNP for 2 weeks to lose about 5kg and go from 15-16% to 10-12%. My attempts at bulking once again resulted in only fat gain despite my best efforts.

Problem is I still have a lot of fat on my belly and love handles such that my abs are only faintly visible when not flexing, but meanwhile I have veins all over my arms, delts and quads.

I'm not really sure how to proceed now.

1. Do another DNP 400mg for 2 weeks and expect my fat distribution to sort itself out on its own by going to 6-8% bf.

2. Do a low dose DNP (like 100-200mg) + Anavar cycle for 4-6 weeks and hope that the Anavar will target the fat around my waist selectively?

3. Just pay for 3D liposuction on the problem area since the rest of my body already looks pretty good?

 

[Rido]

Recomping what? What do you have to recomp?

You shouldn't need to use tren. Go to the basics... We have been telling you forever

 

[RzSco]

Recomping what? What do you have to recomp?

You shouldn't need to use tren. Go to the basics... We have been telling you forever

I don't intend to use tren for bodybuilding purposes. I just want to look as good as possible to impress a girl. That means 5% body fat, lean face, no bloat, 3D abs, and tren aggression and pheromones. I need to be a walking thirst trap for that week, so far as is possible.

I don't think there's really enough time before Christmas to gain any significant muscle. In 2023 I will be able to go back to the basics with progressive overload and better micronutrition and more testosterone.

 

[ItsDaBoii]

I don't intend to use tren for bodybuilding purposes. I just want to look as good as possible to impress a girl. That means 5% body fat, lean face, no bloat, 3D abs, and tren aggression and pheromones. I need to be a walking thirst trap for that week, so far as is possible.

I don't think there's really enough time before Christmas to gain any significant muscle. In 2023 I will be able to go back to the basics with progressive overload and better micronutrition and more testosterone.

Dude you dont need tren for that... just starve yourself on dnp and take 2 lasix the night before your date

 

[Blang]

Good lord.

 

[TheRingloVale]

Good lord.

...dude is all over the map

 

[Rido]

I don't intend to use tren for bodybuilding purposes. I just want to look as good as possible to impress a girl. That means 5% body fat, lean face, no bloat, 3D abs, and tren aggression and pheromones. I need to be a walking thirst trap for that week, so far as is possible.

I don't think there's really enough time before Christmas to gain any significant muscle. In 2023 I will be able to go back to the basics with progressive overload and better micronutrition and more testosterone.

I forgot you are an incel.

 

[RzSco]

I forgot you are an incel.

Not just an incel but an oldcel too, risky behaviour is justified. I won't get another chance like this, but afterwards I'll have all the time in the world for bodybuilding. Just be thankful you're in a position to judge me rather than in my position.

 

[Rido]

Not just an incel but an oldcel too, risky behaviour is justified. I won't get another chance like this, but afterwards I'll have all the time in the world for bodybuilding. Just be thankful you're in a position to judge me rather than in my position.

You lack the ability to listen to people that are trying to help you. You have received phenomenal advice from plenty of people.

Even @TrenTrenTren has tried to help you too.

The only thing I am judging you on is your lack of ability to use this advice and keep asking these dumb questions and wondering why you are not having ideal results.


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[Inspired]

Butcher in the UK is kind of a "luxury", prices are more than double of supermarkets. I'll just deal with not having it.

Will start with LE multi + K + copper + boron and ditch my shitty multimineral which I realized now is not very bioavailable with all it's "oxide" forms.

Meanwhile, I do need to lose probably 10 lbs at least in 8 weeks, to get shredded for seeing people at Christmas. Yea it's possible by dieting but if I used DNP I can drop it all in 2 weeks and then maybe gain a couple lbs muscle recomping over the next 6 weeks instead of just spending 8 weeks in a deficit.

Also if I want to use tren to have the tren look on a certain date, how many days before that should I start dosing Tren E? Not intending to use it for gains as such, just as a "finisher" for whatever shit physique I manage by then.

I've used Tren A for that purpose before and it was noticeable after 2 days but I'll have a 10 day window where I can't inject anything.

Also does anyone get facial bloating from tren?

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You are 100% right about oxide forms. They are garbage. Sometimes LE has magnesium oxide mixed in with their other magnesiums. I don't know why.

You can lose the weight. The vitamins become even more important when you do these weight cuts. I have no experience with tren, so I wouldn't be able to help you that.

 

[Blang]

Not just an incel but an oldcel too, risky behaviour is justified. I won't get another chance like this, but afterwards I'll have all the time in the world for bodybuilding. Just be thankful you're in a position to judge me rather than in my position.

Based on the posts you've made and the picture you posted, if you have problems with women it has very, very little to do with your body and everything to do with you coming across like a weirdo.

My (longshot) read is that you make zero eye contact and just talk about yourself in the cringiest way ever. And then are completely confused when women don't seem impressed by it.

FWIW unlike most of the people in this thread I'm not categorically against DNP use at all, it just comes with the normal caveats of not using too much of it, using it instead of getting anything else dialed in, yada yada yada.

 

[Inspired]

Based on the posts you've made and the picture you posted, if you have problems with women it has very, very little to do with your body and everything to do with you coming across like a weirdo.

My (longshot) read is that you make zero eye contact and just talk about yourself in the cringiest way ever. And then are completely confused when women don't seem impressed by it.

FWIW unlike most of the people in this thread I'm not categorically against DNP use at all, it just comes with the normal caveats of not using too much of it, using it instead of getting anything else dialed in, yada yada yada.

I don't understand why you're trying to psychoanalyze the man.

He said he is trying to show off to specific people at Christmas. Perhaps a woman. Ok. So what is wrong about looking your best when most people will see you? I think it's healthy to want to look good. You never know. Maybe he hasn't seen these people in years and maybe he won't see them for years again. Don't bash a man's goals.

 

[RzSco]

Based on the posts you've made and the picture you posted, if you have problems with women it has very, very little to do with your body and everything to do with you coming across like a weirdo.

My (longshot) read is that you make zero eye contact and just talk about yourself in the cringiest way ever. And then are completely confused when women don't seem impressed by it.

FWIW unlike most of the people in this thread I'm not categorically against DNP use at all, it just comes with the normal caveats of not using too much of it, using it instead of getting anything else dialed in, yada yada yada.

It's not really a long shot. I am just trying to compensate for my weirdo behaviour by looking good, so that people will forgive me and see me as "mysterious" than "weird". It's really the only option you have when you have autism (or live in social isolation hell).

I do make eye contact, I don't talk about weird shit, but unfortunately this is a physical as well as a mental disease and every micro expression on my face and micro movement of my body is a screaming red flag to something instinctual in people. It's off, it's wrong, it's to be avoided.

Having any disease is terrible really. People show pity and they may even believe their own words of pity, but their brains are disgusted.

That's life though. Gotta deal with it the best way we each can.

 

[Inspired]

It's not really a long shot. I am just trying to compensate for my weirdo behaviour by looking good, so that people will forgive me and see me as "mysterious" than "weird". It's really the only option you have when you have autism (or live in social isolation hell).

I do make eye contact, I don't talk about weird shit, but unfortunately this is a physical as well as a mental disease and every micro expression on my face and micro movement of my body is a screaming red flag to something instinctual in people. It's off, it's wrong, it's to be avoided.

Having any disease is terrible really. People show pity and they may even believe their own words of pity, but their brains are disgusted.

That's life though. Gotta deal with it the best way we each can.

You are being too self critical. Way too harsh. I believe you could fix all of what you just described and I don't know you. But I have ideas. The first thing is you have to abandon this self pity.
Weaponize your autism. One day you won't care what some roastie thinks about you.

 

[RzSco]

You are being too self critical. Way too harsh. I believe you could fix all of what you just described and I don't know you. But I have ideas. The first thing is you have to abandon this self pity.
Weaponize your autism. One day you won't care what some roastie thinks about you.

My autism is definitely weaponised - I can follow routines, diets and drug plans meticulously. I am not self pitying - I have identified the things I can actively work on and the things I can't. And I've tried to identify every tool I can use - even the ones many people are frightened of, like DNP.

Believe me, you don't live for 28 years without trying to overcome your social difficulties time and time again. It's incorrect that autistic people avoid social situations - the truth is the opposite - social situations avoid people with autism.

It's frustrating when people are telling me I'm ignoring the advice I'm given - because it's not in me at all to slack off or to not follow a program. Especially given what [I believe to be] is at stake for me.

Why on earth would I have ended up fat enough to need to do a DNP cut if I wasn't bulking? Why would I have been eating in a surplus without also following the programming advice I was given? It's unfair and incorrect for anyone to be making the assumption that I just binge ate and fucked around in the gym.

 

[Rido]

My autism is definitely weaponised - I can follow routines, diets and drug plans meticulously. I am not self pitying - I have identified the things I can actively work on and the things I can't. And I've tried to identify every tool I can use - even the ones many people are frightened of, like DNP.

Believe me, you don't live for 28 years without trying to overcome your social difficulties time and time again. It's incorrect that autistic people avoid social situations - the truth is the opposite - social situations avoid people with autism.

It's frustrating when people are telling me I'm ignoring the advice I'm given - because it's not in me at all to slack off or to not follow a program. Especially given what [I believe to be] is at stake for me.

Why on earth would I have ended up fat enough to need to do a DNP cut if I wasn't bulking? Why would I have been eating in a surplus without also following the programming advice I was given? It's unfair and incorrect for anyone to be making the assumption that I just binge ate and fucked around in the gym.

Did you ever hire a trainer/coach like we suggested a long time ago?

 

[RzSco]

Did you ever hire a trainer/coach like we suggested a long time ago?

I don't have the money and I probably never will. Disposable income is not a thing in the UK. I hope that the programming and diet advice I received from guys on here would be similar.

Increasing test to 750mg got my weights moving again with calories at maintenance - we will see for how long.

 

[Rido]

I don't have the money and I probably never will. Disposable income is not a thing in the UK. I hope that the programming and diet advice I received from guys on here would be similar.

Increasing test to 750mg got my weights moving again with calories at maintenance - we will see for how long.

i dont get you. you are putting your body in danger to maintain gains/a physique you cannot even manage properly. You do not know how to train, eat, but somehow have enough time to research drugs and do them. The same goes with money. just looking at your training regimen of working out twice a day makes me cringe.

You keep making excuses to justify your actions/drug use/lack of progress.
Nobody brought your autism(didn't even know) into this, even then I only knew you were an incel because YOU said it.

I'm out. just like what everyone has said. this is a waste of time.