Do you train shoulders? Are training shoulders essential?

[anon55]

Hi
The question is in the title. I have some pain on left shoulder while training them, but not while traning other muscles like chest, back or arms. I plan to skim them for a while and do some exercise to help mobility and help healing the rotator cuff it is the cause of my pain.
I heard that some bodybuilder don't really train them because the front delt works a lot on chest movement and the rear delt on back movement. What's your opinion on it?
I'm gonna need to change my work plan (or not) currently doing a split in 5 days:
Or I just rest more..

Legs
Back+triceps
Rest
Chest+biceps
Legs
Shoulders+biceps+abs
Rest

 

[Stealth500]

I've always trained chest and shoulders together to allow more time to rest but what about rear flies and lateral raises with cables if you can still train chest surely you can hit some shoulders and just avoid presses?

 

[anon55]

I've always trained chest and shoulders together to allow more time to rest but what about rear flies and lateral raises with cables if you can still train chest surely you can hit some shoulders and just avoid presses?

Rear flies are ok, I do them.
Some pain mostly on lateral raises, and military press and upright row.

Shoulders are not a weak point for me, and rear delt are pretty solid on my physique. It's almost like the weakest part of my delt in the front.

 

[Stealth500]

Some pain mostly on lateral raises,

that sucks. I had some shoulder pain a few years back i remember dead hangs seemed to help

 

[Tdeck81]

If you have rotator cuff inflammation you might want to back off a little on all the presses. Maybe try higher reps with lighter weights? The heavy presses may not feel like they are causing additional inflammation but might be worsening the root cause.

Try a strengthening or rehab protocol for the rotator cuff and see if you can get it to calm down. Ending up with a tear will you back much longer

 

[wp_375]

You wanna fix a shoulder, throw on straps and hang from a pull-up bar as long as you can stand. Good for the lower back too.

Hangs fixed my shoulder that nothing else would.

 

[sionnach]

You wanna fix a shoulder, throw on straps and hang from a pull-up bar as long as you can stand. Good for the lower back too.

Hangs fixed my shoulder that nothing else would.

Wow. That would've been awesome to know a few years ago. The only thing that fixed mine was reanchoring the tendons, sewing up my labrum, and shaving off a bit of my collarbone. I should've tried that first.

 

[BamaCrazy]

You wanna fix a shoulder, throw on straps and hang from a pull-up bar as long as you can stand. Good for the lower back too.

Hangs fixed my shoulder that nothing else would.

This is what is allowing me to kick my rotator cuff surgery down the road a little while longer. It’s likely inevitable but my left shoulder surgery sucked so bad that I’m in no hurry to repeat.

I do hangs at least 4 days a week.

 

[Tdeck81]

I usually use my lat pull down attachment to stretch me out. Putting Myself in traction helps keep everything limber and feels good just to decompress. I can’t imagine it hurting especially since you’re still working out. Give it a run

 

[BenjaMinMax]

Hi
The question is in the title. I have some pain on left shoulder while training them, but not while traning other muscles like chest, back or arms. I plan to skim them for a while and do some exercise to help mobility and help healing the rotator cuff it is the cause of my pain.
I heard that some bodybuilder don't really train them because the front delt works a lot on chest movement and the rear delt on back movement. What's your opinion on it?
I'm gonna need to change my work plan (or not) currently doing a split in 5 days:
Or I just rest more..

Legs
Back+triceps
Rest
Chest+biceps
Legs
Shoulders+biceps+abs
Rest

Hi! Just don’t push through movements that cause pain, better let the shoulder heal first. Skipping direct shoulder work for a few weeks won’t make them shrink or disappear so don’t worry about that. The front and rear delts are already getting plenty of indirect work from your chest and back sessions, like you said. The only part that might miss some stimulus is the lateral head. If you want, you can throw in some very light lateral raises, more as a warm-up and for control than for real load, just to keep mobility and activation. Focus on recovery first, the gains will wait

 

[zneekah]

that sucks. I had some shoulder pain a few years back i remember dead hangs seemed to help

You wanna fix a shoulder, throw on straps and hang from a pull-up bar as long as you can stand. Good for the lower back too.

Hangs fixed my shoulder that nothing else would.

This is what is allowing me to kick my rotator cuff surgery down the road a little while longer. It’s likely inevitable but my left shoulder surgery sucked so bad that I’m in no hurry to repeat.

I do hangs at least 4 days a week.

Question for Hang-Gang - do you go palms towards you with arms a little twisted or palms away from you with arms more straight?

 

[BamaCrazy]

Question for Hang-Gang - do you go palms towards you with arms a little twisted or palms away from you with arms more straight?

Palms away, arms straight. Just a dead hang. Sometimes with straps, sometimes without.

 

[zneekah]

Palms away, arms straight. Just a dead hang. Sometimes with straps, sometimes without.

Appreciated! That's how I usually do them too but I have recently experimented with the other version. Feels more challenging but thats not always a good thing.