Dr Jims Hplc/ms Data

I will look and find the lab code shortly but ONE test proves nothing per say.

My absolute guess is that Alpha has been around a while for a reason and it's not bc they are consistently selling BUNK gear. The only means of answering your question, are they CONSISTENTLY selling a quality product, lies in repetitive testing mate.

The same also holds true for NAPS even though their Primo was NOT Primo but Bolo, and their NPP was Stanz and/or T-u. Hey, at least they put an AAS in their vials, lol!
(I recall those samples specifically and WHO submitted them)
 
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I will look and find the lab code shortly but ONE test proves nothing per say.

My absolute guess is that Alpha has been around a while for a reason and it's not bc they are consistently selling BUNK gear. The only means of answering your question, are they CONSISTENTLY selling a quality product, lies in repetitive testing mate.

The same also holds true for NAPS even though their Primo was NOT Primo but Bolo, and their NPP was Stanz and/or T-u. Hey, at least they put an AAS in their vials, lol!
(I recall those samples specifically and WHO submitted them)

I have never seen AP fail a qualitative test. WEDINO's did lost of them when they did AAS testing. I have also not seen a 3rd party quantitative test failed (they've posted their own test but they obviously cannot be relied on as truth).

HOWEVER...there have now been so many instances of people posting serum TT labs when doing AP test, and far too often the values are in the "low end". Elevated, for sure, but seemingly one would excpect more. Somewhat consistently dubious, it seems. I have not heard about people getting infections on AP. Whatever the case, the gear seems clean, and qualitatively as claimed...but maybe underdosed.

Good point on repetetitive testing.
I was thinking this: IF AP is indeed "human grade", a random analysis would have to confirm 250 mg +/- (acceptable deviation for it to be deemed "HG"). Meaning, an analysis yielding T-concentration less than the acceptable standard for 250mg would disprove AP being human grade. If it were UGL, it would - I assume - be highly unlikely that it would hit 250 plus/minus acceptable deviation. Even UGL that is not underdosed RARELY hits such a clean mark as 250 mg. It would prove that atleast SOME of what they put out might be HG, but not all of it. Or disprove!

Hope that makes sense. Looking forward to the lab codes! And LOL at all the jerkoff no-shows claiming you do not contribute. Where are their analyses? Oh wait, they didn't provide any. Bullshit, however, they've provided shovel loads of.
 
Yeah, a post like you had the last time would be great Jim, if you have the time. We the codes and the important aspects of the results to us non science guys all together. Thanks.
 
All right, all right already :) I'll get on it bc you mates have been more than patient. I just wish I had the damn HPLC results, seriously.

Oh but the good news the lab has ordered the recommended column, needed to elute the more hydrophobic/esterified (parenteral) AAS. Heck it damn sure should work, bc it's identical to the column USP AAS production facilities utilize. (One being the company which MANUFACTURED the standards I purchased earlier)
 
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FYI, the chemist at the USP standard facility mentioned in passing, they purchase a considerable amount the required base compounds such as Testosterone, Progesterone and Andro thru Chinese wholesalers.

Although the purity typically ranges between 75-85%, a purity that exceeds 80% is a "rare find".

Purity in this case only includes the INTACT COMPOUND and excludes congeners, substrates, androgen fragments or sub-fragments and other nonproduction contaminants.

Think about that, this is a DEA registered facility, that specializes in the sale of the highest quality AAS available, yet the highest purity they receive is around 85%. What do you believe the chances are of you or some UGL purchasing "raws" that exceed this degree of purity, over the net?

jim
 
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Yeah, a post like you had the last time would be great Jim, if you have the time. We the codes and the important aspects of the results to us non science guys all together. Thanks.

So something like the Enigma or Morse code should be GTG right :)
 
Hey I hope you know I'm just messing with you DMT.

I will post a code that won't require an encryption certificate tomorrow mate.
 
Yes my priority is to post the LAB/MS code TODAY!

But i have a question for those mates whom have found this HPLC thread useful.

I have completed the analyses of 5-6 GH samples from UGL and would like you fellas opinion where they should be posted; on this thread, the existing GH thread or perhaps on a new "GH HPLC" thread?

These are completed GH assays with well founded procedural conclusion and include tests such as MS, HPLC, PEP-PAGE, PHOTOSPEC and TRYPSIN FRAGMENTATION ANALYSIS WHERE INDICATED.

In fact I've been trying to accomplish this form of "conclusive" testing with anabolic agents, but have found the road to success a much more difficult path.
 
Yes my priority is to post the LAB/MS code TODAY!

But i have a question for those mates whom have found this HPLC thread useful.

I have completed the analyses of 5-6 GH samples from UGL and would like you fellas opinion where they should be posted; on this thread, the existing GH thread or perhaps on a new "GH HPLC" thread?

These are completed GH assays with well founded procedural conclusion and include tests such as MS, HPLC, PEP-PAGE, PHOTOSPEC and TRYPSIN FRAGMENTATION ANALYSIS WHERE INDICATED.

In fact I've been trying to accomplish this form of "conclusive" testing with anabolic agents, but have found the road to success a much more difficult path.
I'd like to see a separate GH HPLC thread Doc!
 
Doc,
I really appreciate your efforts. I agree with Harry, a separate thread GH thread would be nice. Either way, we are all Thankful to you for doing this.
 
Doc,
I really appreciate your efforts. I agree with Harry, a separate thread GH thread would be nice. Either way, we are all Thankful to you for doing this.

Thanks BUT, it's been oh so frustrating to not yet accomplish with AAS what I was able to achieve with GH, especially on a consistent basis!
 
Yes my priority is to post the LAB/MS code TODAY!

But i have a question for those mates whom have found this HPLC thread useful.

I have completed the analyses of 5-6 GH samples from UGL and would like you fellas opinion where they should be posted; on this thread, the existing GH thread or perhaps on a new "GH HPLC" thread?

These are completed GH assays with well founded procedural conclusion and include tests such as MS, HPLC, PEP-PAGE, PHOTOSPEC and TRYPSIN FRAGMENTATION ANALYSIS WHERE INDICATED.

In fact I've been trying to accomplish this form of "conclusive" testing with anabolic agents, but have found the road to success a much more difficult path.

any results are interesting to read and present them whatever way you feel best. I don't use gh, but it's always interesting to see what's out there, and who is scamming who
 
I vote for a separate thread on the GH analyses.

Hey folks! Don't give up yet on Karl's "HGH". Western Biotech has R&D and facilities that rival those of Lilly and Sandoz. You saw the photos right? I am sure Karl will make a GH-comeback any moment now!!
 
I am sure Karl will make a GH-comeback any moment now!!

Karl always makes a come back. He'll whisper in your ear just enough to get you to bend over so he can fuck you up the ass. He never stops, because there's always a new crop of newbies, or hopefulls looking for there pot of gold. You can't change the stripes on a zebra. You have to re-market it.
 
I think some of it is it is so easy to see the negative of every UGL on here that some of us newbs just pick the least evil and hope. Good sources hard to come by or held really tight lip around here.
 
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