Drug Tests.... just what shows up?

[TrippalHealicks]

Does anyone know how a drug test works? I mean, what exactly does it detect? Or, do the doctors just look for anything other than what SHOULD be coming out of your body, and if they find anything unusual, they then analyze it?

Here's the situation: My work drug tests often. If you stump your toe, piss test.. if you cut your finger, piss test. If you get bit by an animal or a bee, piss test. I can't afford the risk of takin' Anabolics without a prescription and doctor's care, but I can't get either of those... So, that's pretty much outta the question... I wanna start a cycle of Clenbuterol and T3, but I wonder if they show up?.... I mean, if I absolutely had to, I could settle for Ephedra. I liked it the last time I used it... But, it's been FDA'd now, too.. So, if I get piss-tested ad I'm on any of these, what would happen? Especially in the case of the Ephedra... I mean, I can't force myself to look at that drug as being "illegal"...

Oh, and I'm on Androstenedione, right now. Do any of you think that would be considered an "illegal drug", too? (Stupid FDA)..

Please help me, these questions and concerns keep me up late into the night, searching for answers. You guys seem to be the smartest crowd when it comes to this stuff, so I wouldn't think of asking anyone else.

Thanks,
3hX

 

[moralanimal]

Does anyone know how a drug test works? I mean, what exactly does it detect? Or, do the doctors just look for anything other than what SHOULD be coming out of your body, and if they find anything unusual, they then analyze it?

Here's the situation: My work drug tests often. If you stump your toe, piss test.. if you cut your finger, piss test. If you get bit by an animal or a bee, piss test. I can't afford the risk of takin' Anabolics without a prescription and doctor's care, but I can't get either of those... So, that's pretty much outta the question... I wanna start a cycle of Clenbuterol and T3, but I wonder if they show up?.... I mean, if I absolutely had to, I could settle for Ephedra. I liked it the last time I used it... But, it's been FDA'd now, too.. So, if I get piss-tested ad I'm on any of these, what would happen? Especially in the case of the Ephedra... I mean, I can't force myself to look at that drug as being "illegal"...

Oh, and I'm on Androstenedione, right now. Do any of you think that would be considered an "illegal drug", too? (Stupid FDA)..

Please help me, these questions and concerns keep me up late into the night, searching for answers. You guys seem to be the smartest crowd when it comes to this stuff, so I wouldn't think of asking anyone else.

Thanks,
3hX

Standard drug panels do not test for AS. Your employer is looking for things like THC, opiates, benzo, barbs, amphetimines. Ephedra can produce a flase positive for amph. just like cough syrup can. This is why they should ask (in writting) if you take any meds or OTC's. I am not 100% sure if clen would also produce a false positive for amph. but in theory I would think it can happen.I would tell them that you have a script for albuterol if you are taking clen. They will not call your doctor and you do not have to provide them with any other info about it.

 

[TrippalHealicks]

Standard drug panels do not test for AS. Your employer is looking for things like THC, opiates, benzo, barbs, amphetimines. Ephedra can produce a flase positive for amph. just like cough syrup can. This is why they should ask (in writting) if you take any meds or OTC's. I am not 100% sure if clen would also produce a false positive for amph. but in theory I would think it can happen.I would tell them that you have a script for albuterol if you are taking clen. They will not call your doctor and you do not have to provide them with any other info about it.

How can you be so sure? I work for a major corporation... they want paperwork for EVERYTHING. haha
Oh, when you say they don't look for AS, do you mean that I could be on say, Anabol, and they wouldn't find anything, or say anything, if tested?

 

[mrmoo]

How can you be so sure? I work for a major corporation... they want paperwork for EVERYTHING. haha
Oh, when you say they don't look for AS, do you mean that I could be on say, Anabol, and they wouldn't find anything, or say anything, if tested?

There are severel different types of drug tests. Most do not check for the use of anabolic steroids. It often costs more for a company to test for anabolic steroids.

You might really reconsider using. Even if they don't test now for it, what would they think if you gained 20lbs in 2 months? What if they got some hair up their ass and tested you for AAS? Is it really worth losing your job over? Do you work in a small industry? What happens if you get busted? People talk and it would likely be hard to find another job.

Ultimately it's up to you. Just weigh the pro's and con's fairly. Don't let the excitement of a few pounds of muscle blind you to the possible consequences

 

[einstein1905]

Your job will not test for AAS. It simply is too cost prohibitive. Some Gov't positions will with just cause....some fire depts do. It's simply too cost prohibitive...there are too many compounds to look for, as each needs to be tested for in particular.

 

[TrippalHealicks]

Your job will not test for AAS. It simply is too cost prohibitive. Some Gov't positions will with just cause....some fire depts do. It's simply too cost prohibitive...there are too many compounds to look for, as each needs to be tested for in particular.

I mean, my company is a HUGE one, but they are VERY cost-concious... 1 point for AS use... haha

On the other hand, it is a major career opportunity for me, and I would DIE if I got fired over something so silly... 1 point against AS.

But, in regards to them just randomly testing... That won't happen. They're not just gonna drug test 'cause I gained weight. They could care less if I gain weight. It's not a sports company, my physical condition is not important, and there's no physical competition, so maybe they won't test for AS...??

With these facts in mind, what would you guys say?

(P.S) I wonder if my doctor would tell me about the stuff they find in drug tests, or what they look for... Or, maybe the clinic, if I call anonymously, or something?

 

[einstein1905]

Simply ask your company what they test for. This is by no means an admission of guilt, and it's your right to know.

I mean, my company is a HUGE one, but they are VERY cost-concious... 1 point for AS use... haha

On the other hand, it is a major career opportunity for me, and I would DIE if I got fired over something so silly... 1 point against AS.

But, in regards to them just randomly testing... That won't happen. They're not just gonna drug test 'cause I gained weight. They could care less if I gain weight. It's not a sports company, my physical condition is not important, and there's no physical competition, so maybe they won't test for AS...??

With these facts in mind, what would you guys say?

(P.S) I wonder if my doctor would tell me about the stuff they find in drug tests, or what they look for... Or, maybe the clinic, if I call anonymously, or something?

 

[TrippalHealicks]

That is true... they can test all they want, they're not gonna find anything.
Except maybe the Andro... but, I don't know what the ruling would be on that, either... IF they were to find it, I mean...??

Simply ask your company what they test for. This is by no means an admission of guilt, and it's your right to know.

 

[moralanimal]

I promise they don't test for AS. Well, I am 99.5% sure. Not to go into to much detail but I worked for some major companies on what to do after some tests positive for drugs. Not one has ever asked for guidance on an AS policy. It is the furthest thing from most peoples (companies) mind. The primary reason they test is to reduce liability. They are worried about law suits resulting from thing such as accidents and damage to comany property. Some have worries about decreased productivity, also. Again, standard drug tests do not test for AS. I guess the possibility, although very slim, does exist that your company will; I would say the odds are on your side. I would not recommend asking what they test for. It is highly unlikely they do the test in-house. You would be safer to find out who does the testing for them and ask that company. Why don't you post a thread asking if anyone, personally have ever been caught. I doubt anyone will be able to say they have but maybe someone will prove me wrong and you can assess if your company is similiar to there company.

 

[TrippalHealicks]

Yeah, I was kinda thinkin' of doin' that anyway..
So, has anyway here ever been caught on AS after drug testing?
My company does not do the drug tests in-house, and it's always at the same place. I need to call them and ask what they look for.

I promise they don't test for AS. Well, I am 99.5% sure. Not to go into to much detail but I worked for some major companies on what to do after some tests positive for drugs. Not one has ever asked for guidance on an AS policy. It is the furthest thing from most peoples (companies) mind. The primary reason they test is to reduce liability. They are worried about law suits resulting from thing such as accidents and damage to comany property. Some have worries about decreased productivity, also. Again, standard drug tests do not test for AS. I guess the possibility, although very slim, does exist that your company will; I would say the odds are on your side. I would not recommend asking what they test for. It is highly unlikely they do the test in-house. You would be safer to find out who does the testing for them and ask that company. Why don't you post a thread asking if anyone, personally have ever been caught. I doubt anyone will be able to say they have but maybe someone will prove me wrong and you can assess if your company is similiar to there company.

 

[dumbbellpress]

A standard drug test is very cheap - about $30-$50 from what I have been told.

An AAS drug test adds about $350 to $400 to the cost. How many companies are willing to cough up an extra $350-$400?? Very Very few.

I think your best bet is to wear loose, baggy clothes at work. If you wear muscle shirts, and before your cycle you are at 200lbs. Then at the end of your cycle, you wear that very same muscle shirt, and you have put on 25 lbs of quality muscle......duh that is gonna raise some serious red flags. Is it worth losing your job so that you can wear muscle shirts and impress all the good looking girls?? I hope not. So be as careful as possible, and hide your gains from people who control whether or not you remain employed at your company.

dumbbellpress Dallas Cowboys - America's Team.

 

[TrippalHealicks]

I wouldn't need to worry about impressing anyone... it's about 90% males at my company. haha
I don't think anyone would notice or even care, really.
I talked to a friend of mine that used to be a supervisor in my dept., a few years ago... He said not once did any of his guys ever get caught using AS after drug screens... I guess they DON'T search for the stuff... I told him everything I've heard here about the cost of the test, and how companies aren't worried about that stuff, and he seems to agree...
Hmm... startin' to worry a little less now... Still not 100% SURE, but I guess I never will be, until I get piss-tested. haha

A standard drug test is very cheap - about $30-$50 from what I have been told.

An AAS drug test adds about $350 to $400 to the cost. How many companies are willing to cough up an extra $350-$400?? Very Very few.

I think your best bet is to wear loose, baggy clothes at work. If you wear muscle shirts, and before your cycle you are at 200lbs. Then at the end of your cycle, you wear that very same muscle shirt, and you have put on 25 lbs of quality muscle......duh that is gonna raise some serious red flags. Is it worth losing your job so that you can wear muscle shirts and impress all the good looking girls?? I hope not. So be as careful as possible, and hide your gains from people who control whether or not you remain employed at your company.

dumbbellpress Dallas Cowboys - America's Team.

 

[bodyofwork26]

Chances are pretty good that if they are testing for more than Meth, THC, Barbituates, Opiates......then you will be asked to provide 2 urine samples. The testing procedures for AS are pretty costly. I've personally never heard of a major corp. testing for anything other than the chemicals I've listed above. Hope it helps, by the way, I too work for a pretty major corp. They are pretty relentless about their testing schedules, I was tested both urinalysis and hair folicle and never came back with any trouble. I was on fairly decent dosages too.

 

[TrippalHealicks]

Well, that's very re-assuring. I feel way better about the situation, now... I think I'll go ahead and give it a shot, and try my best to not put myself in a position for drug-screening, anyway. heehee
Thanks everyone!

Chances are pretty good that if they are testing for more than Meth, THC, Barbituates, Opiates......then you will be asked to provide 2 urine samples. The testing procedures for AS are pretty costly. I've personally never heard of a major corp. testing for anything other than the chemicals I've listed above. Hope it helps, by the way, I too work for a pretty major corp. They are pretty relentless about their testing schedules, I was tested both urinalysis and hair folicle and never came back with any trouble. I was on fairly decent dosages too.