Dynamite Raws (International & US Domestic)

[Mathg44]

Why are you guys telling a random dude on the internet that he owes you money?

For all I know he doesn't have to reimburse any of you and there is nothing you could do about it...

 

[B Ware]

Why are you guys telling a random dude on the internet that he owes you money?

Random dude? The guy owes them.
Ever heard the term, “mind ya business”?

 

[Mathg44]

Random dude? The guy owes them.
Ever heard the term, “mind ya business”?

Owes them or not, he can still disappear any time he wants and never come back, or come back under another handle

 

[B Ware]

Owes them or not, he can still disappear any time he wants and never come back, or come back under another handle

You are correct but the guy could of ran weeks ago and disappeared like a fart in the wind. He’s still here though and promising to make it right. Therefore let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him to make members whole and not give him a reason to not do so.

 

[Mathg44]

You are correct but the guy could of ran weeks ago and disappeared like a fart in the wind. He’s still here though and promising to make it right. Therefore let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him to make members whole and not give him a reason to not do so.

That's exactly what I meant. If people start to complain that it takes time, they are shooting themselves in the foot

 

[TNotch347]

I don’t see anyone complaining especially considering the circumstances, all I see are members being transparent throughout the process. Is what it is, hopefully he does what he can, cause at the moment hope is all these guys have. I would just leave it at that.

 

[amtont]

Why are you guys telling a random dude on the internet that he owes you money?

For all I know he doesn't have to reimburse any of you and there is nothing you could do about it...

Thank you @TNotch347 @B Ware

No one is complaining, they are just providing updates on what is happening so that other members know.

I actually think given the situation most of the people involved have been pretty understanding and patient. If you were in the same position of being owed, I am sure you would want to get what you are owed as well.

Technically any source can take anyone’s money and leave at any point but it doesn’t make it less wrong or not bad business. Also, many people had ordered from this source numerous times, and had nothing but good things to say. It’s not as if they just sent money to a random source “Shithole Labs” that joined yesterday.


Dyna had set some initial deadlines but due to some unforeseen circumstances they were unable to be met. Dyna has said that he will still makes things right, and has provided a new timeline under which he will do so. People just want to see that he is continuing to follow through, and taking the steps he has said he will take, to make things right.

 

[Swolemonkey86]

I’ve attempted to contact Dyna via wickr numerous times in the past few days with no response. At this point, I can’t even really get frustrated. If any of you other members he owes have any insight or info and are willing to share I would very much appreciate it.

 

[amtont]

I’ve attempted to contact Dyna via wickr numerous times in the past few days with no response. At this point, I can’t even really get frustrated. If any of you other members he owes have any insight or info and are willing to share I would very much appreciate it.

Sent you a pm with all that I know. I also messaged Kim and dyna. Like I said I'm not sure if this will work because like I have posted a couple of times, sometimes I have trouble getting in contact with him, but Kim is usually able to. She said she would tell him you wanted to talk to him. She will do anything she can to help.

If you need anything else, or I can help in any way feel free to message me, or post, and I will do my best to try and help you.

Like I said before I want to get what I am personally owed, but I also want to make sure everyone else does as well.

 

[Swolemonkey86]

Sent you a pm with all that I know. I also messaged Kim and dyna. Like I said I'm not sure if this will work because like I have posted a couple of times, sometimes I have trouble getting in contact with him, but Kim is usually able to. She said she would tell him you wanted to talk to him. She will do anything she can to help.

If you need anything else, or I can help in any way feel free to message me, or post, and I will do my best to try and help you.

Like I said before I want to get what I am personally owed, but I also want to make sure everyone else does as well.

Much appreciated bro, thank you. All you guys (and girl)have all been a hell support system for one another. This is what is great about Meso.

 

[ExtremePIP]

Sorry, for the lack of presence in the thread. I’ve been doing things to make sure things work. There has been a major breakthrough today, and I’m hopeful. The reason the timeline was fucked up as @amtont said was because the shipment my factory fronted was seized last week (thank you @amtont for not providing that info without my say so, grateful you care about my OPSEC). I am reshipping a second package (I just paid), just waiting for one of my freight forwarders to get back into business - which they said would be very soon. So far I have refunded two people on MESO, $300 to Amtont, $500 to KingLeonidas and another $500 to a source from SST.
I am trying my best, please be patient. Full disclosure, the money refunded was from my own checking account and now I am paying the factory with my money from my savings.
Now am I asking for sympathy? No, I’m asking for patience and understanding, giving an explanation why things are not as easy as “just refund the BTC, or buy more stock immediately”. We have some members like Old School, who I’ve blocked because arguing with him is useless.
I just wanted to make a point and people will probably not like it. However I stated this to many of my customers on Wickr... I came back on a moral standpoint, when various people on this thread that have never done business with me; know me or have ever even talked to me decide to jump in and antagonize me just because..
Everything I explained had been backed up with proof and I give the people with the proof liberty to dispense it to members they deem trustworthy.
Secondly, the phrase “Don’t catch feelings for your drug dealer”, or something along those lines is quite ignorant. I’ve never asked for pity, sympathy or anything of that sort - I only offered an explanation and a promise. So far I have fulfilled part of my promise and gave proof that I did have a pack on the way that was seized - which contained every item owed.
There was no obligation for me to come back except for the fact that I do not wish to be labelled as a scammer, and because I got completely fucked over - I do not want you guys nor believe that you guys - the end customers should suffer the consequences, even though it was not under my control. I came back because I consider you guys as friends. When things are going well, people build a relationship with me, customers of mine didn’t just consider me their “source or drug dealer”. We would talk on a daily basis and many times we would speak about things that were not even AAS related. I felt extreme guilt even though I myself did not do anything wrong! yes I have a conscience. However, when shit hits the fan with me - for some people I suddenly just turn into a scumbag, scammer, drug dealer, when most of the evidence pointed to something else.
I won’t elaborate more, but there were more than 11-13 users ready to send me money but I declined and told them I could not accept their preorders right before I disappeared. If I was to scam, I think I would’ve taken that extra 15-20k USD.
If people use that argument, calling me a drug dealer - than imagine if I was a morally incompetent piece of shit. I could simply go to the argument and play it out in my head - that if I, the “plug” gets fucked over, the “fiends” are fucked and the “plug” has no obligation to make things right.
No, I am not calling any of you guys fiends - it is just an analogy given the above statement. I am not your drug dealer, I am your friend - at least that’s what I believe I am with many of the users. If you just want a customer source relationship; that’s fine with me too. However as stated earlier in my thread (think October), my relationship with customers is very important and I never just considered you guys customers. Building a relationship was a goal, and is important to me. When first starting this operation, I never believed this to be some sort of “drug dealing operation”. What I mean by that, is we are held to a higher accountability than a heroin dealer, yay dealer and whatever else. Also, the community would be more friendly. The community has proved me right, most of all of you are understanding and caring - I think we all understand that AAS is not put in the same category as Xanax, Heroin or even Marijuana. Only a small portion of users proved me wrong, I’m not too bothered by that.

As for Wickr:

I have two Wickrs at the moment, the one being “ExtremePIP” keeps logging out. Please comment your Wickr name and I will get to you on my main Wickr and keep you updated.
Currently I am using 60% of my savings to pay off the seized package and get a new one out, this is going to take at least 15 days from the date of shipment which I will not post publicly, please be patient.
Everyone will get refunded, I just ask for patience and understanding.
I apologize if I came off as harsh on this post but I honestly had to set a couple of things straight. The bottom line is, I’m here to be honest, and make things right.
Thank you all for those that supported me during this time, from a human to human standpoint it does mean a lot.

Also, please understand I will not be on the forums everyday; I am currently working on everything and being on the forums and having conversations with some people feels detrimental. As people have mentioned, it makes me feel pressured, and sour. Also, there aren’t many updates or things I can provide of value until I set things in motion. OPSEC is important to me so most updates will go towards users - I’m sure they will update the thread when they are refunded or if something unfortunate does happen. However, I can promise you this. No matter how much shit posts I receive, or the hard time that I am currently going through - I will not leave like a coward. I always keep my word. I love most of this community, my best 3 months of my life (what a shitty life huh), was spent selling on this forum and making friends, some of which I talk with daily.

Again, all I’m asking for is patience and understanding.

Much love,
Dyna

 

[movingiron88]

Way to long to read, I read the first paragraph or two and gave up. Look you can block me to if you would like. I think it is admirable that you are trying to repay customers you beat out of their hard earned money. Much more then I have seen others do. But with that being said everyone has taken it easy on you. You may make things right in the end, that remains to be seen. But fuck you with your crying that people have given you a hard time. You are lucky everyone has been so accepting. Stop your fucking crying and get your shit back together. You havent earned it yet brotha. That's the truth and if it hurts your feelings to bad.

P.S. Quit blocking members like a pussy.

 

[Aesthetictech]

Way to long to read, I read the first paragraph or two and gave up. Look you can block me to if you would like. I think it is admirable that you are trying to repay customers you beat out of their hard earned money. Much more then I have seen others do. But with that being said everyone has taken it easy on you. You may make things right in the end, that remains to be seen. But fuck you with your crying that people have given you a hard time. You are lucky everyone has been so accepting. Stop your fucking crying and get your shit back together. You havent earned it yet brotha. That's the truth and if it hurts your feelings to bad.

P.S. Quit blocking members like a pussy.

“You can block me if you want”

“Quit blocking members”

[emoji23]

 

[amtont]

Sorry, for the lack of presence in the thread. I’ve been doing things to make sure things work. There has been a major breakthrough today, and I’m hopeful. The reason the timeline was fucked up as @amtont said was because the shipment my factory fronted was seized last week (thank you @amtont for not providing that info without my say so, grateful you care about my OPSEC). I am reshipping a second package (I just paid), just waiting for one of my freight forwarders to get back into business - which they said would be very soon. So far I have refunded two people on MESO, $300 to Amtont, $500 to KingLeonidas and another $500 to a source from SST.
I am trying my best, please be patient. Full disclosure, the money refunded was from my own checking account and now I am paying the factory with my money from my savings.
Now am I asking for sympathy? No, I’m asking for patience and understanding, giving an explanation why things are not as easy as “just refund the BTC, or buy more stock immediately”. We have some members like Old School, who I’ve blocked because arguing with him is useless.
I just wanted to make a point and people will probably not like it. However I stated this to many of my customers on Wickr... I came back on a moral standpoint, when various people on this thread that have never done business with me; know me or have ever even talked to me decide to jump in and antagonize me just because..
Everything I explained had been backed up with proof and I give the people with the proof liberty to dispense it to members they deem trustworthy.
Secondly, the phrase “Don’t catch feelings for your drug dealer”, or something along those lines is quite ignorant. I’ve never asked for pity, sympathy or anything of that sort - I only offered an explanation and a promise. So far I have fulfilled part of my promise and gave proof that I did have a pack on the way that was seized - which contained every item owed.
There was no obligation for me to come back except for the fact that I do not wish to be labelled as a scammer, and because I got completely fucked over - I do not want you guys nor believe that you guys - the end customers should suffer the consequences, even though it was not under my control. I came back because I consider you guys as friends. When things are going well, people build a relationship with me, customers of mine didn’t just consider me their “source or drug dealer”. We would talk on a daily basis and many times we would speak about things that were not even AAS related. I felt extreme guilt even though I myself did not do anything wrong! yes I have a conscience. However, when shit hits the fan with me - for some people I suddenly just turn into a scumbag, scammer, drug dealer, when most of the evidence pointed to something else.
I won’t elaborate more, but there were more than 11-13 users ready to send me money but I declined and told them I could not accept their preorders right before I disappeared. If I was to scam, I think I would’ve taken that extra 15-20k USD.
If people use that argument, calling me a drug dealer - than imagine if I was a morally incompetent piece of shit. I could simply go to the argument and play it out in my head - that if I, the “plug” gets fucked over, the “fiends” are fucked and the “plug” has no obligation to make things right.
No, I am not calling any of you guys fiends - it is just an analogy given the above statement. I am not your drug dealer, I am your friend - at least that’s what I believe I am with many of the users. If you just want a customer source relationship; that’s fine with me too. However as stated earlier in my thread (think October), my relationship with customers is very important and I never just considered you guys customers. Building a relationship was a goal, and is important to me. When first starting this operation, I never believed this to be some sort of “drug dealing operation”. What I mean by that, is we are held to a higher accountability than a heroin dealer, yay dealer and whatever else. Also, the community would be more friendly. The community has proved me right, most of all of you are understanding and caring - I think we all understand that AAS is not put in the same category as Xanax, Heroin or even Marijuana. Only a small portion of users proved me wrong, I’m not too bothered by that.

As for Wickr:

I have two Wickrs at the moment, the one being “ExtremePIP” keeps logging out. Please comment your Wickr name and I will get to you on my main Wickr and keep you updated.
Currently I am using 60% of my savings to pay off the seized package and get a new one out, this is going to take at least 15 days from the date of shipment which I will not post publicly, please be patient.
Everyone will get refunded, I just ask for patience and understanding.
I apologize if I came off as harsh on this post but I honestly had to set a couple of things straight. The bottom line is, I’m here to be honest, and make things right.
Thank you all for those that supported me during this time, from a human to human standpoint it does mean a lot.

Also, please understand I will not be on the forums everyday; I am currently working on everything and being on the forums and having conversations with some people feels detrimental. As people have mentioned, it makes me feel pressured, and sour. Also, there aren’t many updates or things I can provide of value until I set things in motion. OPSEC is important to me so most updates will go towards users - I’m sure they will update the thread when they are refunded or if something unfortunate does happen. However, I can promise you this. No matter how much shit posts I receive, or the hard time that I am currently going through - I will not leave like a coward. I always keep my word. I love most of this community, my best 3 months of my life (what a shitty life huh), was spent selling on this forum and making friends, some of which I talk with daily.

Again, all I’m asking for is patience and understanding.

Much love,
Dyna

Thanks for explaining. I think people just want to see you continue to follow through on your promise and take steps towards fulfilling it. It seems like this is happening.

I think dyna has given everyone who is owed a timeline of what they should expect with regards to being refunded or getting what they are owed.

At this point I think it is wise and I personally plan on giving him the chance and time to follow through with this timeline. If the timeline is not met then it would be time to start questioning or get mad. While it is frustrating the reality is that it will take time ex:has to wait for freight forwarders, can't ship in 1 day etc.

I would just like to be kept updated and see steps continue be taken until everyone gets what they are owed. Dyna has said he will do this.

 

[ExtremePIP]

Way to long to read, I read the first paragraph or two and gave up. Look you can block me to if you would like. I think it is admirable that you are trying to repay customers you beat out of their hard earned money. Much more then I have seen others do. But with that being said everyone has taken it easy on you. You may make things right in the end, that remains to be seen. But fuck you with your crying that people have given you a hard time. You are lucky everyone has been so accepting. Stop your fucking crying and get your shit back together. You havent earned it yet brotha. That's the truth and if it hurts your feelings to bad.

P.S. Quit blocking members like a pussy.

You were never blocked, that being said enjoy your day. I appreciate that you feel it is admirable, and fuck me? I haven’t cried about any members being “too hard on me”, rather I told them that I need patience. I think you need to understand the difference. In order for me to pay people back, I need the customer’s patience and understanding. All other feelings are to their own.
By the way, I’d rather block people than engage in pointless arguments. Some conversations are useless and irrespective to said goal.

 

[movingiron88]

You were never blocked, that being said enjoy your day. I appreciate that you feel it is admirable, and fuck me? I haven’t cried about any members being “too hard on me”, rather I told them that I need patience. I think you need to understand the difference. In order for me to pay people back, I need the customer’s patience and understanding. All other feelings are to their own.
By the way, I’d rather block people than engage in pointless arguments. Some conversations are useless and irrespective to said goal.

Basically dont all bitch like @Tiredandhot

I see he is one of your fan boys. Him and Kim sure do have an awful lot of behind the scene shit going on. Almost always when that goes on it is no good for members atleast.

Quit complaining, ask for forgiveness and be grateful members are treating you as good as they are.

 

[bambam333]

Dyna has already made good with more than half of his customers me being one of them I haven’t recieved mine yet but I’m not worried at all. If he comes back I’ll place another order the day he comes back the integrity speaks for itself of him covering peoples losses out of pocket because being 100 percent honest if I had that continuous stroke of Bad luck that he did happen to me I’m not sure if I would come back and make people I know from a website whole. And if anyone says it wouldn’t at least cross their mind of disappearing from people on the internet on the other side of the world they’re full of shit

 

[ExtremePIP]

Basically dont all bitch like @Tiredandhot

I see he is one of your fan boys. Him and Kim sure do have an awful lot of behind the scene shit going on. Almost always when that goes on it is no good for members atleast.

Quit complaining, ask for forgiveness and be grateful members are treating you as good as they are.

This is the last time I’ll pay you any mind.
I’m very transparent with my relationships, “behind the scenes”? Kim helped me a lot, she had my back, her and I became friends after some drama occurred on my thread. At first she suspected me to be a liar and the extortionist, however we later on became great friends. We still are great friends, as a matter of fact she is probably one of my most trusted friends on this board. However, I have many good friends on this board, I said in the beginning of my thread - building relationships with people is very important to me. Some sources can go along and say “fuck what people think”, but I care about what people think. Hence why I’m back trying to make things right. As far as I’m concerned, you bring nothing of value to this thread; you were never a customer and you never ever had a conversation with me. You have a history of just creating more drama where it is unneeded.
Does having close relationships on this board bother you? If so, then I apologize - as I am close with many members of this forum. I treat them as friends and respect all of them. “Behind the scenes”, you and OldSchool baffle me.
Then continue to tell me to “ask for forgiveness and stop complaining”. If you’ve read my thread you would’ve seen I’ve done both and more. Matter of fact I don’t owe you an explanation for anything, it’s quite funny how you are constantly shit talking when I’m already doing the right thing. It’s like you have a vendetta against me.
Have a nice day buddy. Take that negativity elsewhere. If you have any questions about Kim and I, Amtont and I, any discord members, Bambam, or ANYONE else; please feel free to ask. Again, enjoy your day.

Also, I wanted to again clarify; I’ve expressed my gratefulness for everyone’s response and kindness/understanding many times. I still am grateful, just not towards you.
Remember, respect is given when respect is deserved.

 

[ExtremePIP]

Dyna has already made good with more than half of his customers me being one of them I haven’t recieved mine yet but I’m not worried at all. If he comes back I’ll place another order the day he comes back the integrity speaks for itself of him covering peoples losses out of pocket because being 100 percent honest if I had that continuous stroke of Bad luck that he did happen to me I’m not sure if I would come back and make people I know from a website whole. And if anyone says it wouldn’t at least cross their mind of disappearing from people on the internet on the other side of the world they’re full of shit

Thank you brother, I appreciate you! I will continue to keep you updated personally brother. Much love man, thanks for understanding and being a good friend, most importantly the patience you’ve shown me.
I won’t let you down!

 

[Mathg44]

This is the last time I’ll pay you any mind.
I’m very transparent with my relationships, “behind the scenes”? Kim helped me a lot, she had my back, her and I became friends after some drama occurred on my thread. At first she suspected me to be a liar and the extortionist, however we later on became great friends. We still are great friends, as a matter of fact she is probably one of my most trusted friends on this board. However, I have many good friends on this board, I said in the beginning of my thread - building relationships with people is very important to me. Some sources can go along and say “fuck what people think”, but I care about what people think. Hence why I’m back trying to make things right. As far as I’m concerned, you bring nothing of value to this thread; you were never a customer and you never ever had a conversation with me. You have a history of just creating more drama where it is unneeded.
Does having close relationships on this board bother you? If so, then I apologize - as I am close with many members of this forum. I treat them as friends and respect all of them. “Behind the scenes”, you and OldSchool baffle me.
Then continue to tell me to “ask for forgiveness and stop complaining”. If you’ve read my thread you would’ve seen I’ve done both and more. Matter of fact I don’t owe you an explanation for anything, it’s quite funny how you are constantly shit talking when I’m already doing the right thing. It’s like you have a vendetta against me.
Have a nice day buddy. Take that negativity elsewhere. If you have any questions about Kim and I, Amtont and I, any discord members, Bambam, or ANYONE else; please feel free to ask. Again, enjoy your day.

Also, I wanted to again clarify; I’ve expressed my gratefulness for everyone’s response and kindness/understanding many times. I still am grateful, just not towards you.
Remember, respect is given when respect is deserved.

Yeah, @movingiron88 sure loves to talk shit.