E2 all over the place on Test/Mast

[lunarloom2500]

I'm on 200mg Test E and 200mg Mast E. I experience both low and high estrogen sides such as soft errections, loss of sensitivity, no appetite, pissing a lot, often crying and somewhat bad sleep.

From what I know bloodwork is useless because Mast doesn’t reduce E2 but acts as a SERM. What would you guys do?

 

[explodingHeart]

From what I know bloodwork is useless

Go back to reddit

 

[ksm2]

I would drop the 200 mg mast, probably doesn't do anything anyway. Possibly increase test depending on your goals.

What i learned is not to fuck around with mast and primo trying to manage estrogen. I don't see how that is any better than taking an AI. It's just overcomplicating things.

Just take aromasin, a low dose daily works best for me. All those 12.5 mg or 25 mg twice per week approaches never worked for me. I need a low dose daily to not get high estrogen symptoms.

 

[Ouch]

I would drop the 200 mg mast, probably doesn't do anything anyway. Possibly increase test depending on your goals.

What i learned is not to fuck around with mast and primo trying to manage estrogen. I don't see how that is any better than taking an AI. It's just overcomplicating things.

Just take aromasin, a low dose daily works best for me. All those 12.5 mg or 25 mg twice per week approaches never worked for me. I need a low dose daily to not get high estrogen symptoms.

What’s your daily dose of Asin? Curious cause I recently switched to 12.5mg eod after giving up on the every 3.5 days dosing

 

[Liter O' Test]

another victim of "adding mast or primo to TRT for absolutely no reason"

How is your e2 all over the place if you dont have bloodwork and all of your symptoms describe low e2 side effects?

What would I do? Get bloodwork and stop taking masteron. 200mg testosterone won't give you those side effects, so why take something that builds 0 muscle that makes you cry yourself to sleep everynight.

 

[narta]

Stop using more injectibles as AIs. USe them as anabolics and adjust your AI accordingly to your blood results

 

[lukiss96]

It's cuz mast is overrated af. To me it's useless drug, that's right I can't call it a steroid as it's too weak for that. I get no magical benefits and of course I need an AI as it doesn't help much. I guess some like it and find it usable, but I will not discount the placebo effect those preachers get from it.

 

[lunarloom2500]

Thanks for the replies. I'm going to throw away this Masteron bullshit now

 

[ksm2]

What’s your daily dose of Asin? Curious cause I recently switched to 12.5mg eod after giving up on the every 3.5 days dosing

For

45 mg Test Prop daily
45 mg Tren A daily

I take about 10 mg Aromasin right after injection. I go mostly by bitchiness/emotionality and sensitive nipples.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

For

45 mg Test Prop daily
45 mg Tren A daily

I take about 10 mg Aromasin right after injection. I go mostly by bitchiness/emotionality and sensitive nipples.

Have you gotten blood work or do you strictly like to go by feels?

 

[88general88]

I'm on 200mg Test E and 200mg Mast E. I experience both low and high estrogen sides such as soft errections, loss of sensitivity, no appetite, pissing a lot, often crying and somewhat bad sleep.

From what I know bloodwork is useless because Mast doesn’t reduce E2 but acts as a SERM. What would you guys do?

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[laclark89]

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[bighunanballs]

From what I know bloodwork is useless

False

 

[ksm2]

Have you gotten blood work or do you strictly like to go by feels?

I go by feels and looks. Being overly emotional, negative intrusive thoughts about my ex or some jealousy shit, i always know it's high estrogen time. Painful nipples and water retention are another dead giveaway.

In my experience it's much easier to deal in AI with short esters. Also easier to get a feeling how much AI you actually need for a certain Test dose.

If you crush your estrogen and feel like absolute shit with a limp d ick, just inject some more Test P. Works fast and easy.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

I go by feels and looks. Being overly emotional, negative intrusive thoughts about my ex or some jealousy shit, i always know it's high estrogen time. Painful nipples and water retention are another dead giveaway.

In my experience it's much easier to deal in AI with short esters. Also easier to get a feeling how much AI you actually need for a certain Test dose.

If you crush your estrogen and feel like absolute shit with a limp d ick, just inject some more Test P. Works fast and easy.

Are you being sarcastic? Doing anything related to aas by "feels" is definitely a bit reckless, in my opinion. Get some blood work done, and look into how dhea can help with crashed e2.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It's cuz mast is overrated af. To me it's useless drug, that's right I can't call it a steroid as it's too weak for that. I get no magical benefits and of course I need an AI as it doesn't help much. I guess some like it and find it usable, but I will not discount the placebo effect those preachers get from it.

 

[ksm2]

Are you being sarcastic? Doing anything related to aas by "feels" is definitely a bit reckless, in my opinion. Get some blood work done, and look into how dhea can help with crashed e2.

No, i'm just being honest. If i can fix my symptoms by simple dose adjustments i will not drive 2 hours just to check my estrogen.

The only thing DHEA does is giving me horrible acne, even at 50 mg per day. It's one of the overcomplicating things you can do when trying to control estrogen. I prefer to just inject more Test P and be done with it, and take less AI next time.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

No, i'm just being honest. If i can fix my symptoms by simple dose adjustments i will not drive 2 hours just to check my estrogen.

The only thing DHEA does is giving me horrible acne, even at 50 mg per day. It's one of the overcomplicating things you can do when trying to control estrogen. I prefer to just inject more Test P and be done with it, and take less AI next time.

Well I'm not here to tell you what to do and when. But saying to control e2 by feels isn't exactly harm reduction. Blood work should be the final say. I do however think that if these symptoms you describe should arise, then that would be the indication to get the blood work.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

I also love masteron

 

[bighunanballs]

It's cuz mast is overrated af. To me it's useless drug, that's right I can't call it a steroid as it's too weak for that. I get no magical benefits and of course I need an AI as it doesn't help much. I guess some like it and find it usable, but I will not discount the placebo effect those preachers get from it.

hey you stfu man