Educated input please, inability to gain weight

Evom1

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First off, before simply saying eat more, please read thru. I'll put notes at the end.

Started my journey at 145lbs, over the course if several years I reached 200lbs naturally. Began cycling, yes soon, but what's done is done. I reached 215 within the first year or two, began blasting and cruising for various reasons.

I did a 2.5yr run of doxycycline 1/2013-8/2015)for acne prescribed by my dermatologist until I realized just how bad it was to run an antibiotic for that long. I tapered off, pushed alot of fermented food and probiotics, still take probiotic daily.

Since 1/2013 my weight has been between 215-227 no matter what I do. I've worked with 3-4 different coaches with different diet approaches, training methods, and supplement/gear protocols and none of them could push me past that 227 mark. Even have one coach add in a good amount of dirty calories and multiple chest meals.

On two different occasions I focused on leaning out, got down to single digits at about 205lbs....once tried reverse dieting back up under the watch of Shelby on cycle and even with slin, hit that 225lb mark and there I sat... Changed this and that, added more food here more there, weight didn't budge.

Fast forward to the next time I dieter down. Again single digits at 205lbs....reverse dieted back up to 220 while just cruising and my weight sat there... Upped my food.. Still sat there.

Started a blast... 225-227 and still just at a wall. 8 meals a day. Clean whole food. Pretty solid meals ex 7oz 93% beef 16oz sweet potatoes 1 cup veggies etc eating every 2 hours starting right when I get up. Pre, intra, and post workout nutrition is pretty solid.

Pushing considerably more food than a few of my friends who are my weight or more, they're growing, I'm not.

Now I know the standard answer is eat more and yes, black and white that makes sense. But when I look at how much food I put down, or have at different points, something doesn't add up.

My thought is maybe there's something else going on with my system/my body that I'm not aware of that could be inhibiting me from growing past this point.

If anyone could give some educated input I would greatly appreciate it. I'm extremely disciplined with my diet, my training, my sleep everything. No problem pushing mass amounts of food every couple hours but something has to give.

Thank you in advance.

Notes (read the whole post if you can)
-started at 145, now 227

-worked with 4 coaches, different diets and cycles, couldn't push past 227

-ran doxycycline for acne 1/13-8/15.. Have taken probiotics since

-pushing 8 large meals a day of whole food, weight won't budge

-rather than the typical "eat more" is it possible something else may be inhibiting growth?
 
What's your protien intake like? Do you supplement with shakes? It's the foundation of mass after all.

Also a macro breakdown would help, do you know how much fats/carbs etc your getting in on a daily basis?
 
What's your protien intake like? Do you supplement with shakes? It's the foundation of mass after all.

Also a macro breakdown would help, do you know how much fats/carbs etc your getting in on a daily basis?
Truthfully I don't know my exact macro breakdown.

Meal 1: 16oz egg whites, 1.5cups Oats, 1cup frozen blueberries/strawberries, 4tbsp natural pb

Meal 2: 7oz 93% beef, 16oz sweet potato, 1 cup broccoli

Meal 3: 7oz beef or 8oz organic ground turkey, 2cups brown rice, 1 cup broccoli

Meal 4: 8 whole eggs, 1 green salad no dressing

Meal 5: 7oz beef, 16oz sweet potato or 2.5 cups whole wheat pasta (if I run out of sweet potatos)

Meal 6 pre workout : 2cups jasmine rice, 1/2 cup blue berries, 8oz egg whites mixed with 1 scoop whey isolate

INTRA : 40G karbolyn + 20g EAAs (switching to Intra MD)

Meal 7 Post workout: 2 cups jasmine rice, 8oz steak OR 2 scoops whey once in a while if I'm short on meat

Meal 8 pre bed: 8 whole eggs

This is what I typically push. I find red meat digests much better in my body than chicken.

I also take the basics...

Animal pak
Fish oil
Probiotic
Digestive enzymes
Vit c
Vit d
 
I have had the same issue in the past. My food was good and plentiful, just couldn't figure it out....

Now I know that my macros were well off.

I now have a local company who preps my meals, and since then I have broke through the wall, might be worth working out your nutrition, and adjusting as needed, that was my plan.... But having someone else do it for my made life so much easier and took the math out of it
 
Can I ask what was so out of whack that you couldn't grow? Was it too few overall calories or just the specific macros were off?

I've had 4 different coaches work with me for months each, and they all had different approaches, still couldn't break past
 
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Takes a lot of guesswork out of my diet. Everything is spot on and I know exactly what I am getting in on a daily basis, and when I need to I will adjust macros with the company that preps for me.
 
Eat More. If youre taking in 5k cals a day, you need 6k, etc.

If you dont know youre macro breakdown or your exact cal intake then youre just guessing. Start tracking.

I cant see how you say youve been at this for years and dont track this stuff.

Everyone always claims theyre eating everything and it must be something else. Then they track it for a week and figure out they were wrong.
 
For me, calories were slightly off, but the big one was protien, I was getting enough.... But different amounts at different times of the day. Now i am getting consistent protien throughout the day, it made a difference for me anyway. It's hard to pinpoint, trail and error.
 
Eat More. If youre taking in 5k cals a day, you need 6k, etc.

If you dont know youre macro breakdown or your exact cal intake then youre just guessing. Start tracking.

I cant see how you say youve been at this for years and dont track this stuff.

Everyone always claims theyre eating everything and it must be something else. Then they track it for a week and figure out they were wrong.
When the last changes were made I did log it to figure out the numbers. I would just have to go back and look at what the numbers were. I did not say I don't track it.

Also as I said I've worked with multiple coaches for months each. To see if their approach would work better, so there have been more eyes tracking things than just mine.
 
Was the 5400cal the top end of the intake you tried? I know you dont really want to hear to eat more but if you aren't growing @ 5400 you gotta bump to 6000 and see what you get. You should see growth. Being able to eat big is a huge talent when trying to get big. Good luck man.
 
Was the 5400cal the top end of the intake you tried? I know you dont really want to hear to eat more but if you aren't growing @ 5400 you gotta bump to 6000 and see what you get. You should see growth. Being able to eat big is a huge talent when trying to get big. Good luck man.
It's not the top end yet. I think the highest I pushed was around 6700 when the coach I was with added in alot of dirty food. The 5400 is a current.

I agree with bumping to 6000. However, what do I add more of? Carbs? Protein seems plenty high right now as well as fat
 
It's not the top end yet. I think the highest I pushed was around 6700 when the coach I was with added in alot of dirty food. The 5400 is a current.

I agree with bumping to 6000. However, what do I add more of? Carbs? Protein seems plenty high right now as well as fat

Protein does look good but I would still bump it up more... I know it's going to be tough to get it down. Far as carbs and fat... Bump up the one you eating more IMO. What does your training look like? That could be playing a big role in this too.
 
I can do that.
Training I've tried countless different methods from DC or Yates style, all the way to high rep high volume pump focused training. What I've felt my body responds best to is somewhat of a pyramid type routine for larger muscle groups, and somewhere in the 8-20 rep range for smaller

I try to focus on tight rest times, controlled focused movements with a big contraction, and high intensity vs. Just going heavy
 
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