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Great job.... that's a lot. Hearing these stories gives a lot of hope just for the fact that I was never taking those numbers. Kinda makes me feel like a drama queen. Lol. Just glad I have a cool boss that know what's up and will work with me. Thxs
@Grandpa Gainz yea man I thought I was bad too which I was not gonna deny than it after going away and hearing other people's stories and what they've been through does give you hope and you realize that this is possible. That great your job will work with you mine did as well they paid for my treatment 85k very appreciative of that and everything I have in life now bc I was an ungreatful piece of shit.
 
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thanks brother I really have a better life being sober now and I tried to get my family to try it but the addiction was too strong...so now I'm addicted to weights..of it's not about gainzz in the gym and in life I don't want anything to do with the negativity and meso has helped me out a lot with it all
@Obeast88 amen to no fucking negativity in your life that shit can drag you down.
 
I admire all of you for talking about this openly. I have been down that road with you all as well and can say that kicking that shit to the curb is the best thing you will ever do for yourselves. I was using for close to 10 years. If I couldn't get Oxys I would buy h. I had a $150.00 a day habit. That's a $54,000.00 a year habit!! And when you are using that money doesn't matter. You will spend it all day every day to get your high. Now that I am sober I cringe at blowing money and look back at those days and wonder how I could just throw that Michael money away and not even think twice. It grabs you by the balls and never lets go!!
I have been sober for 5yrs now!!!
 
For those of you fighting addiction.....
Keep fighting

I've had problems with pills and coke even crack at one point. 5 years were real bad but it was about an 8 year thing

Now I still drink once a week but that's it.....

All those drugs did was ruin my physique ruin my priorities and cause problems

Still working on ridding myself of all the fat I gained during that time. Got most of my muscle and strenght back but still need to lose fat
 
Lifting is definitely an addiction and one that anyone with an addictive personality can easily, and readily, jump on. I ran the gamut of drugs in my 20's and watched many close friends die. I've been clean going on 15 years but probably wouldn't be able to stop myself if someone chopped up a solid rail of blow right in front of me.

I've learned to distance myself from all of my old enablers and found a new addiction to iron. Much healthier addiction, IMO. Best of luck to anyone still fighting those demons. I thought for sure I'd die from them, but here I am; big family, successful career, cancer survivor, etc. Got a lot of shit to live for and all those deadly chemicals are no longer on the list.

Keep fighting, bros.
 
Ty brother. Yeah I saw my doc. To get suboxone I have to basically go on disability for 3 weeks and go into a program. Which is cool with me. Gonna try weening if I fail I'm gonna schedule with my boss. I already told him what was up.
Dude. 25 at a time. Yeah that's scary shit there.

For sure man let me know if u need anything you have to do what's best for you
Hey there fellas. My 22yr old daughter is headed to an ibogain clinic on Monday. I really hope she can make it happen this time.
I actually have an order in with a vendor on the deep web. Its been more than a couple of months now. The ibogain is coming from Brasil. Customs returned the first pack to the sender. The customs declaration didn't match the contents. Its a schedule 1. Not sure where the second pack is but my ex and I decided we weren't going to wait any longer and got in touch with a place in Mexico that was recommended by a friend.
My ex was going to take her to Big Bear with an RN friend of hers and administer the ibo up there with the nurse on hand to check vitals etc.
5 grams of ibogain is running just under $1,100. The bitcoin is in escrow and we've put in for a refund. I've been supplying her with suboxone and subutex for the last 2 months. It's whichever can be found. Its getting a little expensive.
The contact from the clinic says she needs to be off suboxone for a minimum 10 days. Something about the molecule being long and it sticking to receptors for a long while. The ibogain won't work on wd's if suboxone is in her system. I'm assuming its the nalaxone that is the problem?
He said he'd rather her continue to use heroin rather than continue with the subs. He recommended Oxycodone IR as its fast in and out. Its what they are going to give her when she arrives to keep the wd's away until the ibogain is administered.
As of 2 days ago we have her taking 30mg every 4 to 6 hrs. 15mg wasn't quite doing it. I think 30mg is a lot of oxy for a 115lb female but I guess its really not if there is a tolerance.
She's so young. We have 4 grown children and none of the others have the gene. Neither do I nor my ex wife. The kids grandparents are a different story.
We've tried regular rehabs here in the States and even tried a faith based rehab(Buddhism) in Thailand. She almost made it 2 weeks before taking off and wandering the streets until my ex could get a flight to collect her and bring her home.
I hope this works. We won't ever give up but she won't make it much longer.
 
Hey there fellas. My 22yr old daughter is headed to an ibogain clinic on Monday. I really hope she can make it happen this time.
I actually have an order in with a vendor on the deep web. Its been more than a couple of months now. The ibogain is coming from Brasil. Customs returned the first pack to the sender. The customs declaration didn't match the contents. Its a schedule 1. Not sure where the second pack is but my ex and I decided we weren't going to wait any longer and got in touch with a place in Mexico that was recommended by a friend.
My ex was going to take her to Big Bear with an RN friend of hers and administer the ibo up there with the nurse on hand to check vitals etc.
5 grams of ibogain is running just under $1,100. The bitcoin is in escrow and we've put in for a refund. I've been supplying her with suboxone and subutex for the last 2 months. It's whichever can be found. Its getting a little expensive.
The contact from the clinic says she needs to be off suboxone for a minimum 10 days. Something about the molecule being long and it sticking to receptors for a long while. The ibogain won't work on wd's if suboxone is in her system. I'm assuming its the nalaxone that is the problem?
He said he'd rather her continue to use heroin rather than continue with the subs. He recommended Oxycodone IR as its fast in and out. Its what they are going to give her when she arrives to keep the wd's away until the ibogain is administered.
As of 2 days ago we have her taking 30mg every 4 to 6 hrs. 15mg wasn't quite doing it. I think 30mg is a lot of oxy for a 115lb female but I guess its really not if there is a tolerance.
She's so young. We have 4 grown children and none of the others have the gene. Neither do I nor my ex wife. The kids grandparents are a different story.
We've tried regular rehabs here in the States and even tried a faith based rehab(Buddhism) in Thailand. She almost made it 2 weeks before taking off and wandering the streets until my ex could get a flight to collect her and bring her home.
I hope this works. We won't ever give up but she won't make it much longer.
@biggerben69 sorry to hear what your going through. I myself was using for 20yrs coming up on 3yrs clean now. How long were the last treatments she went through. 90/90 are really beneficial if she didn't do one that long. I was completed shut out from outside world no phone no contact with anyone from home just focusing on myself did wonders for me. Can give you info on place its in la if you want
 
Hey there fellas. My 22yr old daughter is headed to an ibogain clinic on Monday. I really hope she can make it happen this time.
I actually have an order in with a vendor on the deep web. Its been more than a couple of months now. The ibogain is coming from Brasil. Customs returned the first pack to the sender. The customs declaration didn't match the contents. Its a schedule 1. Not sure where the second pack is but my ex and I decided we weren't going to wait any longer and got in touch with a place in Mexico that was recommended by a friend.
My ex was going to take her to Big Bear with an RN friend of hers and administer the ibo up there with the nurse on hand to check vitals etc.
5 grams of ibogain is running just under $1,100. The bitcoin is in escrow and we've put in for a refund. I've been supplying her with suboxone and subutex for the last 2 months. It's whichever can be found. Its getting a little expensive.
The contact from the clinic says she needs to be off suboxone for a minimum 10 days. Something about the molecule being long and it sticking to receptors for a long while. The ibogain won't work on wd's if suboxone is in her system. I'm assuming its the nalaxone that is the problem?
He said he'd rather her continue to use heroin rather than continue with the subs. He recommended Oxycodone IR as its fast in and out. Its what they are going to give her when she arrives to keep the wd's away until the ibogain is administered.
As of 2 days ago we have her taking 30mg every 4 to 6 hrs. 15mg wasn't quite doing it. I think 30mg is a lot of oxy for a 115lb female but I guess its really not if there is a tolerance.
She's so young. We have 4 grown children and none of the others have the gene. Neither do I nor my ex wife. The kids grandparents are a different story.
We've tried regular rehabs here in the States and even tried a faith based rehab(Buddhism) in Thailand. She almost made it 2 weeks before taking off and wandering the streets until my ex could get a flight to collect her and bring her home.
I hope this works. We won't ever give up but she won't make it much longer.
Damn Ben that's some hard stuff to read right there. I'm thankful I'm going thru it and not my kids
Good luck with the ibogain treatment. Heard a lot of positive stories about it!
 
@biggerben69 Good luck with your daughter. It is hard to watch family members destroy themselves. I felt this pain with my younger sister who was caught in the throws of any drug that came her way for seventeen years. To us, her family, it was like she almost didn't even exist anymore. We never saw or heard from her until things would get really bad. Then one day she got arrested for crack residue and paraphernalia and the police were tired of dealing with her so she was going to get some reasonably serious time. She took the option to attend a faith based rehab for a year. After the year we were all pleased that she did not feel strong enough to return home so she remained at the mission and worked with the incoming people for another year. She said dealing with the incoming people really opened her eyes the rest of the way because she was truly able to see what she had become.

Moral of this story is keep your faith in her. They do come back from addiction. She has been clean for several years now and still allows the higher power in her life to lead her actions. She has now gone on to graduate from college and is current pursuing her masters degree with a 4.0 gpa and is planning to continue on and get her doctorate. If anyone would have told me even only five years ago that this is where she would be today I would have laughed in their face. I am so happy that I was wrong.

Once again, keep the faith brother and good luck with your daughter. I pray your daughter comes clean and your family becomes whole once more.

IV
 
I have personal experience tappering off suboxone on the street and have been off for 3 years. The way this synthetic drug holds (i.e. Long half life) make coming off incredibly tricky because of all the misinformation out there. What usually fucks up peoples success is they jump off at way too high of a dose ( just 1 mg is still equal to a couple hundred mg of morphine). They go through acute withdrawal that leaves them to weak to cope with the anxiety insomnia and depression that lasts so long with Subs.
 
Hey there fellas. My 22yr old daughter is headed to an ibogain clinic on Monday. I really hope she can make it happen this time.
I actually have an order in with a vendor on the deep web. Its been more than a couple of months now. The ibogain is coming from Brasil. Customs returned the first pack to the sender. The customs declaration didn't match the contents. Its a schedule 1. Not sure where the second pack is but my ex and I decided we weren't going to wait any longer and got in touch with a place in Mexico that was recommended by a friend.
My ex was going to take her to Big Bear with an RN friend of hers and administer the ibo up there with the nurse on hand to check vitals etc.
5 grams of ibogain is running just under $1,100. The bitcoin is in escrow and we've put in for a refund. I've been supplying her with suboxone and subutex for the last 2 months. It's whichever can be found. Its getting a little expensive.
The contact from the clinic says she needs to be off suboxone for a minimum 10 days. Something about the molecule being long and it sticking to receptors for a long while. The ibogain won't work on wd's if suboxone is in her system. I'm assuming its the nalaxone that is the problem?
He said he'd rather her continue to use heroin rather than continue with the subs. He recommended Oxycodone IR as its fast in and out. Its what they are going to give her when she arrives to keep the wd's away until the ibogain is administered.
As of 2 days ago we have her taking 30mg every 4 to 6 hrs. 15mg wasn't quite doing it. I think 30mg is a lot of oxy for a 115lb female but I guess its really not if there is a tolerance.
She's so young. We have 4 grown children and none of the others have the gene. Neither do I nor my ex wife. The kids grandparents are a different story.
We've tried regular rehabs here in the States and even tried a faith based rehab(Buddhism) in Thailand. She almost made it 2 weeks before taking off and wandering the streets until my ex could get a flight to collect her and bring her home.
I hope this works. We won't ever give up but she won't make it much longer.
Damn man. Good luck to your family man. I hope she's able to kick it!
 
You can do it brother my ex girl use to take 25 norcos at a time it would blow my mind I thoght she would die from that... but Iv helped a ton of guys kick pills and heroin If you try Suboxone Don't stay on it long I had a guy kick with only 4 Suboxone kicking is inevitable And the with draws suck but like a told my cousin when he was kicking u never have to feel like that again the choice is yours
I kicked a 6. 30mg roxi and a couple opanna per day habit with 7 suboxone strips.
The key is to step it down to where your at like an eighth of a stripfor no more than a week to 10 days....then NO MORE.
You will fell a lil bit sluggish for a week or so but no bad withdrawls etc.
If you got any test prop you could hit 75mg/day after the subs for a week and i would say you would feel like superman....good luck @Grandpa Gainz
 
Powerlessness sucks. No one stays clean till they are truly ready. Ffucking sucks, but it's the truth. All the substitutes in the world won't work. Anyone wanting to actually get clean, suboxobone is your best bet. Easy sailing. 8mg strips 1st week halved 2nd and a few quarters... done. No more dope sick and nothing more than a single groggy day. I did heroin for 20 years. Till I was done... I always went back. Not only done but I had to change. Old friends had to go, period no exceptions ever. I had to learn how to live, how to feel. I had to have a support group. That support group being other recovering adddicts... key word... RECOVERING. Not just someone or people that didn't use, but actually in recovery. I would never be able to stay clean w/o. Or to just not use and do it by myself, what a joke. I never made it. Not even my family alone was enough. I go to meetings, I chair meetings, I work steps, I stay clean. Simple but not easy. If I stop doing any of these things my old self starts creeping back. If I'm not moving forward I'm moving backwards. Anyone can do it when they're ready and willing. It can get comfortable in misery and sometimes it seems so much easier to just numb and mask your feelings... especially when that's all you know. It was tough. I never thought I'd feel again. There is help and hope for addicts.... when they are ready.

Just an FYI, anyone that is an adddict, the ole, "it's just a drink occasionally" or the one I hear a lot "it's just weed"... we are masters of deception, especially to ourselves. I've fooled myself with both of those lies before. Only to eventually go back out.

Sorry for the rant. Recovery is serious, it works when one surrenders and quits listening to their own ideas... I promise you. If your anything like this addict... I had NO good ideas. Took me a loooonnngggg time to get with that.
 
Powerlessness sucks. No one stays clean till they are truly ready. Ffucking sucks, but it's the truth. All the substitutes in the world won't work. Anyone wanting to actually get clean, suboxobone is your best bet. Easy sailing. 8mg strips 1st week halved 2nd and a few quarters... done. No more dope sick and nothing more than a single groggy day. I did heroin for 20 years. Till I was done... I always went back. Not only done but I had to change. Old friends had to go, period no exceptions ever. I had to learn how to live, how to feel. I had to have a support group. That support group being other recovering adddicts... key word... RECOVERING. Not just someone or people that didn't use, but actually in recovery. I would never be able to stay clean w/o. Or to just not use and do it by myself, what a joke. I never made it. Not even my family alone was enough. I go to meetings, I chair meetings, I work steps, I stay clean. Simple but not easy. If I stop doing any of these things my old self starts creeping back. If I'm not moving forward I'm moving backwards. Anyone can do it when they're ready and willing. It can get comfortable in misery and sometimes it seems so much easier to just numb and mask your feelings... especially when that's all you know. It was tough. I never thought I'd feel again. There is help and hope for addicts.... when they are ready.

Just an FYI, anyone that is an adddict, the ole, "it's just a drink occasionally" or the one I hear a lot "it's just weed"... we are masters of deception, especially to ourselves. I've fooled myself with both of those lies before. Only to eventually go back out.

Sorry for the rant. Recovery is serious, it works when one surrenders and quits listening to their own ideas... I promise you. If your anything like this addict... I had NO good ideas. Took me a loooonnngggg time to get with that.
Truth I wasn't done tell I was done I still work a program and always will shit I broke my leg last night and refused pain meds I don't want anything to set me off onces I start it's like dancing with the gorilla it isnt over till it stops and let's go
 
I kicked a 6. 30mg roxi and a couple opanna per day habit with 7 suboxone strips.
The key is to step it down to where your at like an eighth of a stripfor no more than a week to 10 days....then NO MORE.
You will fell a lil bit sluggish for a week or so but no bad withdrawls etc.
If you got any test prop you could hit 75mg/day after the subs for a week and i would say you would feel like superman....good luck @Grandpa Gainz
I never had to deal with withdrawals personally I slammed speed so I just needed food and to sleep but Iv help a ton of guys shit frank the tank kicked on my couch before my wife trips out on my because I bring guys in like that I don't just take anyone just the ones I believe are ready and I just know in my heart to it's time to help
 
Powerlessness sucks. No one stays clean till they are truly ready. Ffucking sucks, but it's the truth. All the substitutes in the world won't work. Anyone wanting to actually get clean, suboxobone is your best bet. Easy sailing. 8mg strips 1st week halved 2nd and a few quarters... done. No more dope sick and nothing more than a single groggy day. I did heroin for 20 years. Till I was done... I always went back. Not only done but I had to change. Old friends had to go, period no exceptions ever. I had to learn how to live, how to feel. I had to have a support group. That support group being other recovering adddicts... key word... RECOVERING. Not just someone or people that didn't use, but actually in recovery. I would never be able to stay clean w/o. Or to just not use and do it by myself, what a joke. I never made it. Not even my family alone was enough. I go to meetings, I chair meetings, I work steps, I stay clean. Simple but not easy. If I stop doing any of these things my old self starts creeping back. If I'm not moving forward I'm moving backwards. Anyone can do it when they're ready and willing. It can get comfortable in misery and sometimes it seems so much easier to just numb and mask your feelings... especially when that's all you know. It was tough. I never thought I'd feel again. There is help and hope for addicts.... when they are ready.

Just an FYI, anyone that is an adddict, the ole, "it's just a drink occasionally" or the one I hear a lot "it's just weed"... we are masters of deception, especially to ourselves. I've fooled myself with both of those lies before. Only to eventually go back out.

Sorry for the rant. Recovery is serious, it works when one surrenders and quits listening to their own ideas... I promise you. If your anything like this addict... I had NO good ideas. Took me a loooonnngggg time to get with that.
^^^^^^^^ABSOLUTE TRUTH^^^^^^^
 
Congrats to all of you out there who made it through addiction, especially you @wedorecover :). I used to slam heroin, coke, and speed daily, and manufactured hallucinogens (which I used in copious amounts). Eventually, I decided to give away my marriage, my family, and my self-worth to the needle. I got to the point where I just did not care anymore and consequently committed some crime that the courts deemed "violent" and was sent away to a long-term rehab called CDCR. In CDCR, I spent a lot of time in a great place called a SHU, where I got to know that one person that I could never get along with...me. After getting out, I have remained away from anything that is not a PED, have spoke at recovery conventions, have an active relationship with my children and mother, and am 2 classes away from graduating college with 3 degrees, with honors. I feel for all of you out there suffering or with a family member that is suffering. @biggerben69, I do not know you but we have some mutual friends on these boards who have always spoken highly of you, and I wish you and your family the best. Your daughter is blessed to have such a caring father.
 
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