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Guys i just want clarify that i don't want to sound like a baby cry, like i said my first and second pin hurts but as i aspected, nothing to make me come here to cry, but the 3rd pin hurts to a point that I couldn't keep myself to regular activates, thats why i ask you guys opnion and im so thankful to all replys wich is already helping me, i took a advil as @MisterSuperGod has recommended and i feel better at least during the advil effect..
 
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Guys i just want clarify that i don't want to sound like a baby cry, like i said my first and second pin hurts but as i aspected, nothing to make me come her to cry, but the 3rd pin hurts to a point that I couldn't keep myself to regular activates, thats why i ask you guys opnion and im so thankful to all replys wich is already helping me, i took a advil as @MisterSuperGod has recommended and i feel better at least during the advil effect..

Good to hear it's helping.
A bad pin happens every so often.
Don't sweat it, there are no dumb questions... With the exception of "where can i find a source?"
 
Guys i just want clarify that i don't want to sound like a baby cry, like i said my first and second pin hurts but as i aspected, nothing to make me come here to cry, but the 3rd pin hurts to a point that I couldn't keep myself to regular activates, thats why i ask you guys opnion and im so thankful to all replys wich is already helping me, i took a advil as @MisterSuperGod has recommended and i feel better at least during the advil effect..

Are you pinning the same sites over and over with this prop and ace? Or are you rotating sites on each injection?
 
Are you pinning the same sites over and over with this prop and ace? Or are you rotating sites on each injection?
Im rotating it, normally i do quads, glutes and delts so basically 6 sites, today i did on my left delt, lets see how its going to be tomorrow, this time i took i hot show and i massaged it..hope it will be fine..
 
Basically, the reason that PIP occurs is due to the compound crystallizing after injection. Having too much in a "depot" spot can encourage this to happen. That is why the massaging helps - it disperses it more. Another thing that can help is to run the syringe under hot water once loaded. This will warm the solution and bring it closer to your internal body temp. Having it closer to your body temp prevents the muscle from contacting (slightly) when it comes into contact with the colder temp solution, thereby making disbursement more difficult.

(It also makes it easier to push the solution through the needle)
 
Basically, the reason that PIP occurs is due to the compound crystallizing after injection. Having too much in a "depot" spot can encourage this to happen. That is why the massaging helps - it disperses it more. Another thing that can help is to run the syringe under hot water once loaded. This will warm the solution and bring it closer to your internal body temp. Having it closer to your body temp prevents the muscle from contacting (slightly) when it comes into contact with the colder temp solution, thereby making disbursement more difficult.

(It also makes it easier to push the solution through the needle)
Soooooo the compound will crystallize at 98.6 degrees inside my body, but remains in solution at room temp? Sounds right.[emoji23]
 
"Tissue irritation is likely to start 12-24 hours after injection and pain can be mild to moderate depending on the level of tissue irritation and the amount injected. The injection site is likely to swell within the muscle, perhaps red and likely to be warm and very firm to the touch. The swelling and pain will start to subside after 72 hours and can last over a week in the most severe cases. Its important to note that the most likely causes of tissue irritation are when the steroid hormone crashes out of the solution in the depot as this causes crystallization of the steroid hormone and this in turn places a lot of pressure on the nerve endings in the muscle belly which causes pain, knotting and swelling. This is most common in long chain esters, high mg/ml concentration anabolic steroids and steroids compounded with less than an ideal oil blend."

It's not the only cause, just probably the most common.
 
Mine must all be bunk. I couldn't imagine having pip that causes swelling, turns red and is hot that only STARTS to subside after 3 days.

I've never experienced anything close to that. If I did I think I'd give it up lol.
 
Then I guess my Rx test is bunk too - lol ..... Except for the few times it has caused PIP.

Look, I am not trying to argue with you on an internet forum. Just trying to pass on the information that I have found and seems to match up with my experiences. As well as the things I have found that help it. If you have other information that explains it better, I am happy to read and research it. The more informed our membership, the better.
 
Man don't run the syringe under water. Good way to get some bacteria on the needle. Heat the vial if you are worried about it. Tap water and injections aren't real smart.

Rotate your sights.
Massage it after you inject for a few secs
Hot shower after
 
Man don't run the syringe under water. Good way to get some bacteria on the needle. Heat the vial if you are worried about it. Tap water and injections aren't real smart.

Rotate your sights.
Massage it after you inject for a few secs
Hot shower after
Agreed, use a heating pad on the vial. Running the syringe under hot water sounds like a terrible idea
 
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