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[insertnamehere]

That's an erroneous question. Those are federal regulations. Again, you Don't understand the concept of sterility. It's much more complicated than you realize.

Next victim.

Tard.

 

[Weston]

The biceps request? Silly, okay, but also entertaining. Value? No value other than entertainment. I'm sure you know this but that request actually originated with hammer. It was a running joke to ask all sources for a biceps pic because of hammer posting his, not a serious component of a vetting process.

What else do you deem silly and counter productive?

If you're referring to cndguy, then I don't have much to say other then defend yourself or ignore him as you see fit. Also, being friends with every member is not the unity I was referring too.

Aside from that, you attempting to marginalize and dismiss the other important parts of the vetting process as silly, while harassing the source for discounts in the name of helping the community, mainly benefits you and the source - not the kind of unity I was referring too either.

Regardless of dissenting opinion, the fact is - Meso is NOT a source board. These sources come here because there's a ton of traffic and because its free to set up shop. We should be more inclined to kick their ass outta here, not hold the door open. The argument to give them a chance because someone has to try them is BS. We don't owe them anything and they owe us everything.

I hear what you're saying about it not being a source board. People see the scoc and they're not booted, so it does work as one. There's no sense in "vetting", if they're not allowed here anyway. There are several other sources on here that barely get anything and then someone comes along and people decide that they're the ones to go after with a pack mentality. It's kind of a pick-and-choose type thing.

Look, I respect your experience here and I'm not trying to turn this into a pissing match. All i'm trying to say about the silly vetting is telling someone that they're gonna cum on their mom's tits while fingering their sister's butthole doesn't seem like vetting to me. While that specific comment probably hasn't been made, i'm sure you get what i'm saying.

We all have different approaches and that's just not how I am.

Yes, I was referring to cdn and he's definitely on ignore. So any swing he takes at me, he's hitting someone that's not looking. That was the best way I figured to keep myself clear of participating in unnecessary bs.

I can appreciate unity, but some of the petty stuff in the underground gets old. It was kind of fun at first, but I'm spending much less time here.

 

[cdt5074]

The fact you're questioning doc of all people is laughable. The next victim is going to be you when you inject that saw dust with your manzola corn oil. But yeah keep talking....

https://anabolic.org/sterilizing-injectable-aas/

I'm bored with you.

So if heating your gear achieves sterilization, why do you need to autoclave anything beforehand or filter the final solution?

 

[colossus25]

I'm bored with you.

So if heating your gear achieves sterilization, why do you need to autoclave anything beforehand or filter the final solution?

There are bacteria that can eaisly survive the low heat sterilization of gear. And an autoclave is used to sterilize vials before gear is added, not to sterilize gear itself.

 

[cdt5074]

There are bacteria that can eaisly survive the low heat sterilization of gear. And an autoclave is used to sterilize vials before gear is added, not to sterilize gear itself.

Right, but some idiots do as google proves, but I'll let that go.

Okay, so if you autoclave your vials, then you fill them with nonsterile oil and gear, then are the vials still sterile?

 

[colossus25]

Right, but some idiots do as google proves, but I'll let that go.

Okay, so if you autoclave your vials, then you fill them with nonsterile oil and gear, then are the vials still sterile?

No you sterilize your gear with heat ba and through filtration and then pour it into sterile vials.

 

[cdt5074]

No you sterilize your gear with heat ba and through filtration and then pour it into sterile vials.

Wait but the link you posted claims that you dry heat sterilize he vials after they are filled? That's a discrepancy, so when do you dry heat sterilize the gear?

 

[insertnamehere]

I hear what you're saying about it not being a source board. People see the scoc and they're not booted, so it does work as one. There's no sense in "vetting", if they're not allowed here anyway. There are several other sources on here that barely get anything and then someone comes along and people decide that they're the ones to go after with a pack mentality. It's kind of a pick-and-choose type thing.

Look, I respect your experience here and I'm not trying to turn this into a pissing match. All i'm trying to say about the silly vetting is telling someone that they're gonna cum on their mom's tits while fingering their sister's butthole doesn't seem like vetting to me. While that specific comment probably hasn't been made, i'm sure you get what i'm saying.

We all have different approaches and that's just not how I am.

Yes, I was referring to cdn and he's definitely on ignore. So any swing he takes at me, he's hitting someone that's not looking. That was the best way I figured to keep myself clear of participating in unnecessary bs.

I can appreciate unity, but some of the petty stuff in the underground gets old. It was kind of fun at first, but I'm spending much less time here.

The SCOC is long dead, really. There's no official vetting process. Being "allowed" to do something implies there's a moderator - there isn't, it's mainly just us. By and large, we as members are the ones that decide whats allowed. I for one will NOT be friendly to an uninvited guest that's abusing Meso's uncensored free speech platform for the purpose of monetary gain. They're trespassing and at the very least should receive some warning shots fired by their head.

Although it would be more helpful to the cause (weeding out bad sources), I'm not trying to persuade you to like the comments or requests that you, personally, find annoying or unproductive. At the least, I'm asking you to not marginalize, dismiss, or otherwise undermine other important aspects of a necessary process. And they are important. Maybe the most recent example was prime being exposed as hammer. There are others too but you would have to read through old threads.

And its fine to have different approaches. In fact, that's what I'm trying to say - every approach to assessing a source plays a part and has value. There's caveats and subcategories to this of course but generally, us against them is the way it should be (unity).

 

[Docd187123]

That's an erroneous question. Those are federal regulations. Again, you Don't understand the concept of sterility. It's much more complicated than you realize.

Next victim.

So then why are there federal regulation on the sterility of pharmaceutical vials?

I understand the concept of sterility quite well. I've taken multiple advanced Chem courses and biology courses as well as having a cousin who works for a pharmaceutical company who helped me along the brewing/sterility process.

Are you suggesting a person who has nothing better to do than troll an ex-gf on dating websites and AAS forums has more knowledge on sterility than a person who works for an actual pharmaceutical company and holds several advanced degrees and certifications? I hope you say yes bc I could really use a good laugh right about now.

 

[colossus25]

Wait but the link you posted claims that you dry heat sterilize he vials after they are filled? That's a discrepancy, so when do you dry heat sterilize the gear?

You can dry heat sterilized gear in an oven after its been crimped and sealed. Put a needle in the vial to vent. The more steps you take to sterilize the better.

 

[Weston]

The SCOC is long dead, really. There's no official vetting process. Being "allowed" to do something implies there's a moderator - there isn't, it's mainly just us. By and large, we as members are the ones that decide whats allowed. I for one will NOT be friendly to an uninvited guest that's abusing Meso's uncensored free speech platform for the purpose of monetary gain. They're trespassing and at the very least should receive some warning shots fired by their head.

Although it would be more helpful to the cause (weeding out bad sources), I'm not trying to persuade you to like the comments or requests that you, personally, find annoying or unproductive. At the least, I'm asking you to not marginalize, dismiss, or otherwise undermine other important aspects of a necessary process. And they are important. Maybe the most recent example was prime being exposed as hammer. There are others too but you would have to read through old threads.

And its fine to have different approaches. In fact, that's what I'm trying to say - every approach to assessing a source plays a part and has value. There's caveats and subcategories to this of course but generally, us against them is the way it should be (unity).

I respect that. My intent is not to marginalize or undermine a necessary process, only give a perspective that seems to go unsaid. I think there may be many others that feel the same way, but would rather not deal with the shit storm that comes with it. I don't mean to imply you're giving a shit storm, because, as mentioned earlier, I respect your experience and approach.

I don't want to see people hesitate to bring up a bad experience because they'd rather not deal with the backlash that sometimes goes along with not doing things the Meso way. Do you realize the words I'll have to eat if these tests come back as anything other than what they are? Lol. It will be a bit of a humbling experience, but I'll post up whatever I get. I'm not afraid to make this kind of mistake though. It's actually a good learning experience and will let us know if this guy, analyzer, can really do as he claims.

 

[cdt5074]

You can dry heat sterilized gear in an oven after its been crimped and sealed. Put a needle in the vial to vent. The more steps you take to sterilize the better.

Uh no?

So then why are there federal regulation on the sterility of pharmaceutical vials?

I understand the concept of sterility quite well. I've taken multiple advanced Chem courses and biology courses as well as having a cousin who works for a pharmaceutical company who helped me along the brewing/sterility process.

Are you suggesting a person who has nothing better to do than troll an ex-gf on dating websites and AAS forums has more knowledge on sterility than a person who works for an actual pharmaceutical company and holds several advanced degrees and certifications? I hope you say yes bc I could really use a good laugh right about now.

Yeah apparently I do.

 

[insertnamehere]

@cdt5074 ... Meso's new punching bag... A retarded punching bag.

 

[Eman]

@cdt5074 ... Meso's new punching bag... A retarded punching bag.

Doc and him used to be neighbors... No wonder Doc moved.

 

[cdt5074]

You can dry heat sterilized gear in an oven after its been crimped and sealed. Put a needle in the vial to vent. The more steps you take to sterilize the better.

Wait...so you sterilize your vials in the autoclave when they are unsealed, and then you take them out to fill them in the open air with your nonsterile steroid solution? So it's no longer sterile, you do understand that it is no longer a sterile vial? right? Okay, so then you fill it, seal it, and vent and heat it? Okay. what about plastic capped vials? How do sources vent those during heat sterilization? And you said that heat sterilization is not adequate to sterilize the contents of the vial, so how is the sealed vial with the gear in it even after dry heat is applied, sterile?

Idk if you can dig your way out of this one. you are in a deep fucking hole of logic now. this is getting more and more fun by the second.

 

[cdt5074]

Doc and him used to be neighbors... No wonder Doc moved.

contribute to the conversation about sterilization then, instead of calling me retarded. PROVE that I'm retarded. Let's go.

 

[colossus25]

Wait...so you sterilize your vials in the autoclave when they are unsealed, and then you take them out to fill them in the open air with your nonsterile steroid solution? So it's no longer sterile, you do understand that it is no longer a sterile vial? right? Okay, so then you fill it, seal it, and vent and heat it? Okay. what about plastic capped vials? How do sources vent those during heat sterilization? And you said that heat sterilization is not adequate to sterilize the contents of the vial, so how is the sealed vial with the gear in it even after dry heat is applied, sterile?

Idk if you can dig your way out of this one. you are in a deep fucking hole of logic now.

Lol man you got some serious reading comprehension problems. No bro you sealed vials in an autoclave. You put opened un-sterilized vials in an autoclave. No up standing source is going to use presterilized vials for mass production. They would have to compromise the rubber stopper to put the oil in.

 

[cdt5074]

Lol man you got some serious reading comprehension problems. No bro you sealed vials in an autoclave. You put opened un-sterilized vials in an autoclave. No up standing source is going to use presterilized vials for mass production. They would have to compromise the rubber stopper to put the oil in.

No I don't, you do. IF you put unsealed vials in an autoclave to sterilize, and take them out, they are no longer sterile, which is what I said. they aren't sealed, so before you seal them they aren't sterile. do you understand that? LOL this is kind of sad to watch. I almost feel bad.

 

[Eman]

contribute to the conversation about sterilization then, instead of calling me retarded. PROVE that I'm retarded. Let's go.

I don't entertain trolls... You think vials don't need sterilized... You're retarded.

You're only on this forum for the attention you're lacking in your real life... It's sad. It doesn't need to be positive attention either, clearly.

I totally get why your girlfriend left you. You're the worst kind of beta there is.

 

[colossus25]

No I don't, you do. IF you put unsealed vials in an autoclave to sterilize, and take them out, they are no longer sterile, which is what I said. they aren't sealed, so before you seal them they aren't sterile. do you understand that? LOL this is kind of sad to watch. I almost feel bad.

Lmfaoo alright bro enlighten us with your vast wisdom of bullshit knowledge. Obviously my 4 years of lab procedures in school was bullshit