Whoa. Thanks for sharing.
Plenty more on the Changland thread
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Whoa. Thanks for sharing.
Damn it. I gotta get back to work. You are killing me.Plenty more on the Changland thread
well it appears you actually did this for harm reduction then man!Current tally...
660 USD spent on blind testing
0 USD spent buying UGL products
I won't get any of that back. Get it man?
to be continued...
Thank you for saying that. To date, no conflict of interest in any of this.well it appears you actually did this for harm reduction then man!
Thank you on behalf of the real harm reduction community!
I never said anything regarding GMP or whatever the claims were with that stuff.Thank you for saying that. To date, no conflict of interest in any of this.
Evidently I'm just f'n dense and have a dream that UGL space will continue to clean up its act further. Unsubstantiated claims made by vendors simply for marketing to ignorant (not using that in a pejorative sense) customers really needs to stop.
In my particular case, no. That is a special case though as I am not buying any products. If I expected payment back, you would be correct.Now let’s say you went on the forum and said you changed your mind. You were only going to do the 600 dollar testing if you got it reimbursed fully.
Does it sound like real harm reduction then ?
Will we have two tiers of harm reduction members ?Will we have two tiers of vendors? Time will tell. I would be fine with a two tier vendor system.
Finally, thanks for the sincere back and forth.
Time will tell. Surely you agree the onus should be placed on the vendor?Will we have two tiers of harm reduction members ?
Top shelf, gold platter, limited edition harm reduction member- Does tests without ever caring or accepting reimbursement.
Boot licker harm reduction member - only does it if they get full reimbursement
Likewise
Absolutely NOT.Good to go?
Time will tell. Surely you agree the onus should be placed on the vendor?
But to your point vendors only get away with what customers let them get away with (assuming they've been educated on the matter and care what they are putting into their bodies). The health effects of AAS are enough.
These guys are claiming GMP yet have shown absolutely no evidence of this.You mention how these factorys may use GMP or certificates as marketing tactics, and they will only give you free shipping (50 dollar value ) if you test their products or no reimbursement at all.
If their customers are fine with that , then there is no need to change anything right ?