Enhanced Testing Database

[Sicsemptyran]

He should have advocated a simpler, easier thing, that most of us do: vote with your wallet. Source has floaters? Pubic hair? Seminal fluid? STOP BUYING until its corrected. But most don't care, because it's cheap enough to just toss the vial if it has floaters, sometimes even using a quality syringe filter is more expensive than the vial itself.

This is a totally valid argument, it really is and I'm not being facetious. But it's also just an opinion, right? Readalot would say vote with your wallet by expecting enhanced testing as a standard/push for it to become the standard and do not buy from sources where it is not.

To be entirely honest, my risk tolerance is higher than Readalot's and I'd likely buy/inject AAS without certain testing and I also advocate homebrewing for the same reason you mention, but I don't fault him for having his opinion. It neither hurts me or hurts anyone else.

That's what I do not get, at the end of the day I think the crux of the disagreement is just that you and others find him annoying. Fair play, I get that, but I do not get the visceral reaction where he's some cancer that needs to be cut out of the body like a tumor.

 

[narta]

But it's also just an opinion, right?

Opinions are expressed. If you try to shove it down everyone's throat it becomes something else

 

[iris]

Pertinent, logical points have no place with bad actors.

So, you are saying I am a bad actor despite agreeing with what he wrote?
I know it was understood my comment was sarcastic, sure there was no need to clarify, when I was just trying to lighten the mood.

But bad actor, why?
You already replied in a very strange way to something else I wrote here the other day.
I am not quite sure why such underhanded comments should be aimed my way.
I didn't get the previous one, either, which I have asked about.

Is it because you resent me wanting to pay attention to the points raised here by your "detractors" about the testing agenda?

But why not?
I think it is fair that everyone should be listened to, to have an informed view.
And even if they disagreed with you, it doesn't necessarily mean that everything they said was irrelevant or wrong.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

So, you are saying I am a bad actor despite agreeing with what he wrote?
I know it was understood my comment was sarcastic, sure there was no need to clarify, when I was just trying to lighten the mood.

But bad actor, why?
You already replied in a very strange way to something else I wrote here the other day.
I am not quite sure why such underhanded comments should be aimed my way.
I didn't get the previous one, either, which I have asked about.

Is it because you resent me wanting to pay attention to the points raised here by you "detractors" about the testing agenda?

But why not?
I think it is fair that everyone should be listened to, to have an informed view.
And even if they disagreed with you, it doesn't mean that everything they said was irrelevant or wrong.

I think he was referring to the other people, not you

 

[readalot]

I think he was referring to the other people, not you

Absolutely.

 

[Zebedee]

Suck a dick you dishonest piece of shit.

The only stroking you've seen me involved with is when I had some spare change and your mother happened to be around.

Put up or shut up, show everyone a single comment to base your accusation on, or be as dishonorable and dishonest as the scumbag who raised you.

If you want to call him a cunt because of XY or Z etc, then yeah whatever, knock yourself out & be my guest …. but is it really necessary to start making comments about people’s mothers?

This thread has gotten VERY personal, yet no one else has stooped to such a low move.

Be a man & take him on, not his Mum.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Opinions are expressed. If you try to shove it down everyone's throat it becomes something else

He's 1 against the crowd, by volume he takes up a small, small portion of MESO. Why does it get you all so worked up? Nobody is getting hurt, and if it wasn't for everyone spending so much time coming after him it frankly would be an even smaller portion of the forum.

I just really do not understand who the hell he hurts, this forum is full of room temperature IQ comments every day from loads of people. He wants people to test and talks about it a lot? Oh no! MESO is ruined!

 

[readalot]

So, you are saying I am a bad actor despite agreeing with what he wrote?
I know it was understood my comment was sarcastic, sure there was no need to clarify, when I was just trying to lighten the mood.

But bad actor, why?
You already replied in a very strange way to something else I wrote here the other day.
I am not quite sure why such underhanded comments should be aimed my way.
I didn't get the previous one, either, which I have asked about.

Is it because you resent me wanting to pay attention to the points raised here by your "detractors" about the testing agenda?

But why not?
I think it is fair that everyone should be listened to, to have an informed view.
And even if they disagreed with you, it doesn't necessarily mean that everything they said was irrelevant or wrong.

Was not referring to you. Sorry for the confusion. Understandable given who Z was replying to. It's interesting your tolerance for some member's ad hominem though. Since we are on the topic.

 

[iris]

vote with your wallet. Source has floaters? Pubic hair? Seminal fluid? STOP BUYING until its corrected

Yes, Narta, but often even just pointing that out to have it "corrected" is not possible, because members will immediately pop up to silence it, even just by saying what you just wrote: you don't like it, go buy somewhere else or filter it and shut up.
You want it cheap and it's like that, they say.
You know that.

But how can things be changed/Improved, if speaking up gets buried under a mountain of off topic posts and by people keen on protecting the source?
And all because they need to buy cheap gear to resell, of which they do not give a damn.

So "just go somewhere and shut up" doesn't really help anything and anybody.
Or does it?

 

[narta]

He's 1 against the crowd, by volume he takes up a small, small portion of MESO. Why does it get you all so worked up? Nobody is getting hurt, and if it wasn't for everyone spending so much time coming after him it frankly would be an even smaller portion of the forum.

I just really do not understand who the hell he hurts, this forum is full of room temperature IQ comments every day from loads of people. He wants people to test and talks about it a lot? Oh no! MESO is ruined!

That's an average of ~13 posts per day. I have half of that and I post ALOT. More than I should.

He picked his agenda and make everyone's daily forum visit a grind trying to weed out anything useful under the piles of his "superior intellect and noble cause"

 

[Sicsemptyran]

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That's an average of ~13 posts per day. I have half of that and I post ALOT. More than I should.

He picked his agenda and make everyone's daily forum visit a grind trying to weed out anything useful under the piles of his "superior intellect and noble cause"

As I mentioned though, damn near 50+% of that has to be responding to people like you attacking him for that agenda. Again, he's 1 vs a million of you guys who for some reason have this visceral reaction to what he's trying to do. If there wasn't all the pushback, he'd probably be damn near 2,000 posts.

 

[narta]

But how can things be changed/Improved, if speaking up gets buried under a mountain of off topic posts and by people keen on protecting the source?

No one can't change shit. Floaters are still there, because people like cheap gear. If the powers at be wanted to REALLY MAKE A STANCE on harm reduction, they would intervene and outright ban those sources on the 2nd-3rd-5th incident or the first time the source would respond with the "idgaf, it's sterile, either filter it or inject it"

But if that happened, another can of worms opens up, that will have legal implications on the whole operation, so the moderation/pushing/venting of the sources is dumped on the members. And members can't do nothing. They lack the authority, the tools and means to hold the Harm Reduction flag up.

Personally, I ain't protecting any vendor, they are illicit substances dealers on the internet, their happiness or protection is as relevant to me as my neighbors IBS: ZERO. I use them for my needs and after the transaction finalizes idgaf if they get hit by a bus, train, plane or probed in the ass by LE.

 

[readalot]

But if that happened, another can of worms opens up, that will have legal implications on the whole operation, so the moderation/pushing/venting of the sources is dumped on the members

"operation"?

Is this related to your "master/puppet" comment earlier?

 

[iris]

Floaters are still there, because people like cheap gear.

How difficult and expensive is for the source to fix this?
By how much are prices going to increase altering what is necessary to stop this from happening?
I am not buying it that no one can change shit.
The thing with Qsc is different.
Customers can go somewhere else, like you say.
So it doesn't make sense.
Why would they not address product quality issues and, potentially, prefer losing the customer?

It doesn't happen because of the skewed , ingrained mentality of acceptance to justify pricing, for which one has to be grateful, no matter what.
But you don't really see that happen much (or at all) with other sources, do you?
And also because of how all unrelated, off topic stuff is weaponised to obfuscate attempts to hold the source accountable (and so drive customers away to other vendors).
If awareness is removed and a rationale established so easily, what does that do to your decisional power?

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and I post ALOT.

He picked his agenda and make everyone's daily forum visit a grind trying to weed out anything useful under the piles of his "superior intellect and noble cause"

You don't post a lot.
I wish you did.

But that is not fair.
A grind, no.

Maybe I don't see it as a grind because I don't view him like you do.
There are ways of avoiding stuff, as you know (not ideal but better than nothing).

But what exactly is the

anything useful

That you are referring to, which he buries with his writing?

Sources threads that he visits, I imagine.
So pricelists, announcements, shipping info/problems.
That kind of stuff?

 

[narta]

@iris I am on my way out, I am going to get perma-banned soon, so there is no need to elaborate any further.

At this point, it is what it is.

 

[readalot]

Since you are looking after me now, make sure you define the parties that used me as a figurative and literal tool?

You are referring to QSC and Millard?

that you don't get the fact you are used like a tool (literally and figuratively) in the meantime

"Operation"
"Master"
"Puppet"
"Pay grade"

Wow, this sounds sinister. Couldn't you have shot me a DM earlier with your revelations?

 

[readalot]

@iris I am on my way out, I am going to get perma-banned soon, so there is no need to elaborate any further.

At this point, it is what it is.

I always came at this with integrity. Dead Serious. If you really think your time is short then please answer my prior questions. I'd appreciate that. You are telling me I am wasting my time and it was rigged from the start? You claim I'm a pawn, and that my take on all this is backwards?

 

[iris]

@iris I am on my way out, I am going to get perma-banned soon, so there is no need to elaborate any further.

At this point, it is what it is.

You have not done anything that would deserve a permanent ban.
Who is saying this?