Enhanced Testing Database

Hey @Millard, I'd appreciate it if you didn't ban anyone who participated here in the last few days. Bans would be a shame. It's pretty clear this place is their world, not mine. If there was any significant support for this we would have seen it by now. The last 10 pages here tell the story. I've taken this testing bit about as far I will be able to. Perhaps someone with better approach can salvage something out of it.

@Spaceman Spiff it's clear we will never get on and you said some shitty stuff about me. I should have not pressed you on the sourcing. IRL maybe it would be different. I wish you no ill will. I wish you health. Good luck to you.

Take it easy everyone and hope everyone gets the gainz they set out for in 2025.
 
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The third camp is practical application and testing. Pushing people to be hplc testing their products for safety measures. Challenge the source with their products in the consumers hand.

It's blows my mind that @Sicsemptyran is pushing for "enhanced testing" has gear on hand, and hasnt tested any of his products. Come the fuck on.
I realize this may be a stupid question (famous last words)...but you are saying the next step in enhanced testing is having more individuals do their own testing?

If so, I'm unclear on the following - (and no, I'm not debating just for the sake of debating...I'm trying to understand because I'm not exactly a UGL veteran) -
1.) I presume your premise only works if all do as you and SHARE test results, correct? (Otherwise,.I have no idea how that promotes harm reduction)

2.) Is it fair to say that the burden of cost on smaller producers by performing enhanced testing is one of the MAJOR critiques of Readalot's strategy?
- if so, how is this more practical? (The individual user will either take on a massive cost...just not likely to happen...but im listening....OR the source will take on significantly increased cost if they have some sore of reimbursement policy).

I have other thoughts but I'm tired...lol

Ultimately, I disagree with the "little man failing because of the burden of testing" argument (depending on how you define "little man") because I'm open to spending $50 (or more) for a well-tested domestic UGL. I have almost zero intention of ever buying "finished oils" from China ever again...they could give it away for free and I'm not interested (that really isn't meant to sound like a badge of honor...mostly just trying to make clear I'm open to the smaller operations but harder to separate the wheat from the chaff with NEWER sources).

I will admit actually sending off samples of my own gear for testing is a step I have been too lazy to follow through with (I'm not trying to be hypocritical...Ill at least acknowledge my OWN actions don't match the standards many of you follow nor do I even remotely have the same attention to detail as Readalot).

Assuming I am understanding you correctly, do you truly believe that is the best that can be done as the next step? What is inherently wrong about pushing sources to perform this testing? What is to stop the smaller producers from making quality product, shipping it off for testing..AND raising prices accordingly for quality tested gear.

Edit: fuck, I type too goddam much...I swear to God I never start these messages thinking I'm gonna write a fucking soliloquy
 
Hey @Millard, I'd appreciate it if you didn't ban anyone who participated here in the last few days. Bans would be a shame. It's pretty clear this place is their world, not mine. If there was any significant support for this we would have seen it by now. The last 10 pages here tell the story. I've taken this testing bit about as far I will be able to. Perhaps someone with better approach can salvage something out of it.

@Spaceman Spiff it's clear we will never get on and you said some shitty stuff about me. I should have not pressed you on the sourcing. I wish you no ill will. I wish you health. Good luck to you.

Take it easy everyone and hope everyone gets the gainz they set out for in 2025.
You have the same pattern of behavior time and time again. It won't change because you posted this message. Even after the past 2 bans.

You are just buying time until your next childish tantrum.

If I get a ban for my recent behavior, then so be it. You should have one too.

As of right now, I still plan to pull back from sharing HPLC testing with this forum. So no one will accuse me of sourcing. Therefore no one can draw a conclusion of me sourcing or it "affecting my cashflow".
 
You have the same pattern of behavior time and time again. It won't change because you posted this message. Even after the past 2 bans.

You are just buying time until your next childish tantrum.

If I get a ban for my recent behavior, then so be it. You should have one too.

As of right now, I still plan to pull back from sharing HPLC testing with this forum. So no one will accuse me of sourcing. Therefore no one can draw a conclusion of me sourcing or it "affecting my cashflow".
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You guys test your gear? I’ve never tested anything, I just raw dog it.
 
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Hey @Millard. I'd appreciate it if you didn't ban anyone who participated here in the last few days. Bans would be a shame. The last 10 pages here plus pp. 562-564 of the Opti thread tell the story. It's pretty clear this place is their world, not mine. If there was any significant support for this we would have seen it by now. I've taken this testing bit about as far I will be able to. Perhaps someone with better approach can salvage something out of it.

@Spaceman Spiff it's clear we will never get on and you said some shitty stuff about me. I should have not pressed you on the sourcing. IRL maybe it would be different. I wish you no ill will. I wish you health. Good luck to you.

Take it easy everyone and hope everyone gets the gainz they set out for in 2025.
 
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Hey @Millard. I'd appreciate it if you didn't ban anyone who participated here in the last few days. Bans would be a shame. The last 10 pages here tell the story. It's pretty clear this place is their world, not mine. If there was any significant support for this we would have seen it by now. I've taken this testing bit about as far I will be able to. Perhaps someone with better approach can salvage something out of it.

@Spaceman Spiff it's clear we will never get on and you said some shitty stuff about me. I should have not pressed you on the sourcing. IRL maybe it would be different. I wish you no ill will. I wish you health. Good luck to you.

Take it easy everyone and hope everyone gets the gainz they set out for in 2025.
Thanks for proving my point lol.
 
As of right now, I still plan to pull back from sharing HPLC testing with this forum. So no one will accuse me of sourcing. Therefore no one can draw a conclusion of me sourcing or it "affecting my cashflow".

Not surprising. How noble of you.

I'm not buying any time. Tried to take the high road and you throw it back in my face.

That's just great....

GG read.

Trash low tactic.
 
Noble of me? I guess I knew you would go back on your statement and have another childish tantrum.

Thanks for proving my point.
Not having a tantrum. Calling it like it is. Was going to try to give Millard a way to bring peace here and not have to be put on the spot with deciding how to handle the last 10 pages of trashing this thread and you calling him out in Opti's thread. But forget it. You can't be given any kindness or reasoned with. My mistake for trying. Same goes for your wingman.
 
Not having a tantrum. Calling it like it is. Was going to try to give Millard a way to bring peace here and not have to be put on the spot with deciding how to handle the last 10 pages of trashing thus thread. But forget it. You can't be given any kindness or reasoned with. My mistake for trying.
I'm glad you have authority and telling him what to do.

Such a high person of power you are .
 
I'm glad you have authority and telling him what to do.

Such a high person of power you are .
Never try to reason or give an inch to a person operating in bad faith. My mistake.

I have no authority and am not telling him what to do. You words here tell the story.

You just couldn't take my gesture of good will and had to further disparage me. Fine.
 
Never try to reason or give an inch to a person operating in bad faith. My mistake.

I have no authority and am not telling him what to do. You words here tell the story.

You just couldn't take my gesture of good will and had to further disparage me. Fine.
You proved my point and showed you were full of shit. You wouldn't be behaving this way if you were genuine.

I'm glad I was I right. Lol


I'm laughing right now. It's leg day baby
 
You singlehandedly succeeded to make one of the members that preforms a ton of tests and make them available to the community, to stop.

Now go harash Scruf for a double kill.

You guys are both full of shit. Hmm, I called it.

I bet you would quit HPLC testing just so you could say, "see, it was Readalot's fault." You are so full of shit and full of yourself. You say it is for the community

Nah, it's not just you. It's everything as a whole.

I have ways to generate funds far past brewing.

You are accusing me of sourcing here so I will stop giving a reason for anyone to ever think so.

No more blind tirz, hgh, sema, or raw testing.

I have 0 gain from posting tests, lol

Feelings hurt so you won't share anymore? You poor guy.

You have zero to gain from posting tests? I like how you have worded everything. I thought testing was out of the goodness of your heart?

What about the community and harm reduction?
 
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