European Pharmaceuticals

Another perfect order with pharmacist. I have come to trust the consistency and effectiveness of both the ovitrelle HCG and his adex. On TRT and knowing the exact dose to take on adex is key, and the HCG has the long shelf life that a guy on TRT needs to get a couple months out of a vial.
I tried the India stuff, did not feel as good as I do with EU products.
 
@pharmacist question for you. I received my pack and for the first time ever(tom my knowledge) my mailman came 2 hours earlier than usual. It was almost 90 degrees out and my Ovitrille was baking in my mail box for over two hours in what I can guess in temperatures well over a hundred degrees. When I opened it felt hot.Should I throw this out and order more? How sensitive is this?
 
@pharmacist question for you. I received my pack and for the first time ever(tom my knowledge) my mailman came 2 hours earlier than usual. It was almost 90 degrees out and my Ovitrille was baking in my mail box for over two hours in what I can guess in temperatures well over a hundred degrees. When I opened it felt hot.Should I throw this out and order more? How sensitive is this?

I think you should be good if it was out of direct sunlight... If it was just 2to 3 hours I think you should be good to go, but just check with @pharmacist im curious to see what he says especially that I live in a boiling state as well.
 
@pharmacist question for you. I received my pack and for the first time ever(tom my knowledge) my mailman came 2 hours earlier than usual. It was almost 90 degrees out and my Ovitrille was baking in my mail box for over two hours in what I can guess in temperatures well over a hundred degrees. When I opened it felt hot.Should I throw this out and order more? How sensitive is this?

I am not trying to answer for @pharmacist but don't you think that this particular parcel was exposed to just as hot conditions at many, many points between where the parcel originated and where it ended up in your mailbox?

What about the multiple warehouses it sat in along the way?

What about the multiple vehicles carrying your pack?

What about the planes and tractor trailers it sat in?

Think about it - the mail truck it was in that delivered it to you was not air conditioned, so however hot it was in your mailbox, I would think it was at least that hot in the truck that delivered it to you. I do not think that 2 extra hours in your mailbox could have possibly made a difference, my man.
 
Most planes, warehouse and vehicles such as tractor trailers US mail trucks have highly reflective material white or silver tops and insulation to minimize heat.

Could it get hot in these things?
Sure it could of.

Do I know if it did?
No, neither do you.

Do I know if it got as hot as it did in a small almost black, closed mailbox in the middle of an almost 90° day in direct sunlight?

Yes I do, it got very hot and was hot to the touch when I took it out.

I’m always home when my mail comes in but today it came very early. I know this because I have a ring video door bell that captures motion.

Now, my question for @pharmacist, once again, is do you think it will still be good. I’m asking pharmacist because I’m sure he went to school to be a pharmacist. Also he is probably the most knowledgeable person on this product because he has been selling it for years. This is not near my first purchase with the man. I always come back to him. I not looking to get anything free from him.

Thank you for your input, I’ll remember to tag you when I have a question for you.
 
Most planes, warehouse and vehicles such as tractor trailers US mail trucks have highly reflective material white or silver tops and insulation to minimize heat.

Could it get hot in these things?
Sure it could of.

Do I know if it did?
No, neither do you.

Do I know if it got as hot as it did in a small almost black, closed mailbox in the middle of an almost 90° day in direct sunlight?

Yes I do, it got very hot and was hot to the touch when I took it out.

I’m always home when my mail comes in but today it came very early. I know this because I have a ring video door bell that captures motion.

Now, my question for @pharmacist, once again, is do you think it will still be good. I’m asking pharmacist because I’m sure he went to school to be a pharmacist. Also he is probably the most knowledgeable person on this product because he has been selling it for years. This is not near my first purchase with the man. I always come back to him. I not looking to get anything free from him.

Thank you for your input, I’ll remember to tag you when I have a question for you.

I just asked the pharmacist laying in my bed. You are fine bro. Degraded... of course... it degrades on its own by the second in perfect conditions naturally, although very slowly. The degrading process did speed up during the 2 hours in your mailbox. Enough to make the product bunk? No.

Let's see if the other pharmacist agrees...
 
Appreciated. I’m curious too. I’m only worried because I know HCG is a delicate protein like HGH. The only literature I could find on this brand says it should be refrigerated, and it may be stored outside of refrigerator for up to 30 days as long as the temperature remains under 30 degrees Celsius (77 degrees Fahrenheit). I guess I’ll probably find out when I start my cycle. My balls barely shrink when I run hcg on cycle, but they all but disappear when I don’t.
 
Appreciated. I’m curious too. I’m only worried because I know HCG is a delicate protein like HGH. The only literature I could find on this brand says it should be refrigerated, and it may be stored outside of refrigerator for up to 30 days as long as the temperature remains under 30 degrees Celsius (77 degrees Fahrenheit). I guess I’ll probably find out when I start my cycle. My balls barely shrink when I run hcg on cycle, but they all but disappear when I don’t.

Understandable to be worried.

She has to counsel diabetic patients who continue to carry their insulin IN THEIR POCKET for days on end in the summer that it is not in their best interest despite them telling her that they do this successfully...

Plus you have the benefit of this Ovitrelle of it being on the PHARMA instructions that it can be without refrigeration. So hell, if they can do it with something as delicate as life saving insulin, you should be fine.
 
I use the ovitrille too.
I've been under the impression that the synthetic hcg is far more stable than the prego girl version.
I'd still be bummed to know it got hot boxed by the mailman
 
Most planes, warehouse and vehicles such as tractor trailers US mail trucks have highly reflective material white or silver tops and insulation to minimize heat.

Could it get hot in these things?
Sure it could of.

Do I know if it did?
No, neither do you.

Do I know if it got as hot as it did in a small almost black, closed mailbox in the middle of an almost 90° day in direct sunlight?

Yes I do, it got very hot and was hot to the touch when I took it out.

I’m always home when my mail comes in but today it came very early. I know this because I have a ring video door bell that captures motion.

Now, my question for @pharmacist, once again, is do you think it will still be good. I’m asking pharmacist because I’m sure he went to school to be a pharmacist. Also he is probably the most knowledgeable person on this product because he has been selling it for years. This is not near my first purchase with the man. I always come back to him. I not looking to get anything free from him.

Thank you for your input, I’ll remember to tag you when I have a question for you.

First of all, relax.

Second of all, relax some more.

Third of all, seeing as this is a PUBLIC message board, I'll reply to whatever I want to reply to that is PUBLICALLY posted here, whether you tag me or not.

Have you ever worked in a warehouse that moves parcels? I have. It gets hot as hell in there during the hot weather months.

Have you ever loaded trucks during the hot weather months? I have. Again, the temps in those trailers, even while sitting in a shaded warehouse being loaded, get very hot.

The first line of my previous reply was "I am not trying to answer for @pharmacist.." meaning I was just offering my opinion, with the expectation/understanding that the man would come behind me and answer your question.

I guess if you would have liked my answer, it would be cool that I replied, but since you didnt like my answer, I was told that I would be tagged if you wanted my input. Umm, nah, no thanks, save your tags, I'll decide when and where I choose to reply to your public posts.

So you're telling me to speak when spoken to? Thanks for the offer to tag me when you decide I can post, dad. Hope I'm not grounded, too.:rolleyes:
 
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