MESO-Rx Exclusive Everything you always wanted to know about Zyzz but were afraid to ask

[lukiss96]

You all know my stats if not they are posted. So do you think an old grey hair cunt bothered getting this big because i dont want to turn heads. My wife is stunning even at her age. Young guys come up to us and at first she thought she attracted their attention. But it is the usual how did you get so big stuff. Guess you dont get it because lots oy young guys are buff. Not so many oldies. But when you make thor look like a pussy (yes that is a dig) and are as old as the bible people notice. No shame in an ego. Be proud to be a big mother. Just dont be arogant or an arsehole. It gives big guys a bad rap. Lukiss enjoy his envy. Mine too. I will never be as good as any here at meso. But im proud to know everyone of you.

Come on man all is cool, just I hate to say but still there are limits when it comes to your age. I respect fit older men and admire them as a father figure too, before hudson assumes I also do like them in some other creepy way, no I like them as a persona and the work they put in. So I respect you for that.

@GuerillaPete okay, I understand where you are coming from. Idk are emissions not hitting you hard these days? I mean I love my e38 98 740i v8 from USA, but omg I can't maintain this beast, with fuel prices going up to 2.30 euro per liter it's insanity... also co2 yearly cost me crazy. So it's parked in my garage.

BMW 1 series convertible, yeah, but it's not like your usual 1 series as it's 123d 200kw stage 1 chip with custom turbos and m sport + rdx, I can smoke a lot of cars believe me and if not straight line then on the first corner I can wave them goodbye! I even took it to the local race track and it was one hell of a ride!

My dream is like BMW M3 GTR from NFS Most Wanted 05, but man this car is rarer than Ferrari here...

Also you being obsessed and repeating your stats over and over does not help.

I have my own problems, I know, it's just stupid I get super obsessed with something and can't stop. So that's why I avoid 19 nors, they fuck me up even more...

But thanks man, I mean we have talked before and we have different opinion and it's cool. Maybe you know on forum people can't really be like in real life. I mean maybe in reality we could all be drinking shots at club and all would be fine and have a good time, here it's just different environment.

Such a different cultures though, how do you find US anyway?

And you have a fit body too, I thought you were a bit younger though, but it's good to see people in their mid 30's being fit. I can respect you for that too, because it's quite rare to know people like this. Most are lazy.

I'm def not gay. It's pretty normal to be like that here. Nobody likes to dress and appear bland and gray, everyone wants to be colorful and noticed. It's just my preferences and things I like for example gold iPhone max looks great to me, to you and others it's gay and so on...


Bmw e38 740i from us (classic car)

 

[Rickt]

Come on man all is cool, just I hate to say but still there are limits when it comes to your age. I respect fit older men and admire them as a father figure too, before hudson assumes I also do like them in some other creepy way, no I like them as a persona and the work they put in. So I respect you for that.

@GuerillaPete okay, I understand where you are coming from. Idk are emissions not hitting you hard these days? I mean I love my e38 98 740i v8 from USA, but omg I can't maintain this beast, with fuel prices going up to 2.30 euro per liter it's insanity... also co2 yearly cost me crazy. So it's parked in my garage.

BMW 1 series convertible, yeah, but it's not like your usual 1 series as it's 123d 200kw stage 1 chip with custom turbos and m sport + rdx, I can smoke a lot of cars believe me and if not straight line then on the first corner I can wave them goodbye! I even took it to the local race track and it was one hell of a ride!

My dream is like BMW M3 GTR from NFS Most Wanted 05, but man this car is rarer than Ferrari here...


I have my own problems, I know, it's just stupid I get super obsessed with something and can't stop. So that's why I avoid 19 nors, they fuck me up even more...

But thanks man, I mean we have talked before and we have different opinion and it's cool. Maybe you know on forum people can't really be like in real life. I mean maybe in reality we could all be drinking shots at club and all would be fine and have a good time, here it's just different environment.

Such a different cultures though, how do you find US anyway?

And you have a fit body too, I thought you were a bit younger though, but it's good to see people in their mid 30's being fit. I can respect you for that too, because it's quite rare to know people like this. Most are lazy.

I'm def not gay. It's pretty normal to be like that here. Nobody likes to dress and appear bland and gray, everyone wants to be colorful and noticed. It's just my preferences and things I like for example gold iPhone max looks great to me, to you and others it's gay and so on...


Bmw e38 740i from us (classic car)

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Good post lukiss. You know we dont have any problems. But i gotto say we all (especially me) have to realize what is an open post and what should be pm. Me especially need to start pm more my thought off post. But for that people need to let me pm them. If we all start keeping to the thread and using pm for off topic things will be more pleasent. If someone has a different point of view to a post do it in the open. If you want to tell someone they are gay pm it. If you cant pm the person tell your dog.
Yes im aware of the irony. I should pm this. Except most guys in this post block me. Lets work together my dear friends to improve what we do. Lets set an example of friendship and respect.
Just saying.
It is up to you what meso becomes. More shit. Or more support for our brotherhood of iron.

 

[hudson98]

@hudson98 man... whatever is it with you, it's you who is obsessed with me not the other way around. You try to put all these labels on me lol, but it's usually what is on the persons mind, you seem so knowledgeable about bdsm scene and all that stuff, I mean you probably do it with younger guys makes me think...

I still don't get it man, what are you trying to do here... are you trying so hard to make me feel bad about myself? Cuz it's just not gonna happen.

How can I even be twink or small, even compared to your average american... here people are not such obese whales I look pretty big next to them, so idk, I guess you will say whatever you want anyway.

It's funny when people make such a comments, based on what, that I care about myself and I care how I look? Question is where do you live? Is it some small city/state where it's gay to do anything? I mean what do you wear and how do you look then? What's not gay? Dad's jeans, unkept hair, pick up truck, pit bull dog and all that fucked up redneck lifestyle?

Like what is your issue I don't get it. It's 2022 and even in US or wherever you're from men should have evolved by now. Oh and what do you see on ig, fb isn't it guys that look good in general or model or fitness etc?

Idk. I just don't understand you, that's why I mentioned your age, which is not old, but your mentality is very old school and it's not cool anymore to rock that """manly""" tough guy look anymore on the street. Deal with it and get over it.

for someone who doesn't care you just wrote a book. to summarize my thoughts, even by todays standards you would still be considered effeminment./soft/weak/beta. Making fun of girly men is more in style than tattoos that look like a bra, get some picosure

 

[lukiss96]

for someone who doesn't care you just wrote a book. to summarize my thoughts, even by todays standards you would still be considered effeminment./soft/weak/beta. Making fun of girly men is more in style than tattoos that look like a bra, get some picosure

I see that you don't care about yourself and your sad life. Probably you suffer from clinical depression you poor soul?

Actually, at 42 you're worse than my father who's quite a bit older than you and I thought he's an old idiot.

I mean, our generation will take over soon and you will just perish, I'm sorry but it's how the world works.

Meanwhile I love being myself and my tattoos are work of art, you haven't seen the back one. Oh, you really are old and rotten too, so it must be that tattoos is for mentally ill right?

Hot sluts get tattoos these days and it looks cool. The world we live in is 2022, what year do you live in old man?

Social media has never been so colorful, damn this is the future. Everyone there loves my tattoos, not to mention girls.

I mean what can I do, I have to adapt to the ever fast moving world. I made myself like I wanted and I get what I want from life.

To my generation of sluts I look damn good so you think I care what you have to say? I just reply because I love to type, I'm on my phone almost all day like everyone my age, so I might as well show an old man with old mentality that the world has changed since 90's and early 00's lol...

Welcome to the future, Hudson or whatever your name is!

 

[hudson98]

I see that you don't care about yourself and your sad life. Probably you suffer from clinical depression you poor soul?

Actually, at 42 you're worse than my father who's quite a bit older than you and I thought he's an old idiot.

I mean, our generation will take over soon and you will just perish, I'm sorry but it's how the world works.

Meanwhile I love being myself and my tattoos are work of art, you haven't seen the back one. Oh, you really are old and rotten too, so it must be that tattoos is for mentally ill right?

Hot sluts get tattoos these days and it looks cool. The world we live in is 2022, what year do you live in old man?

Social media has never been so colorful, damn this is the future. Everyone there loves my tattoos, not to mention girls.

I mean what can I do, I have to adapt to the ever fast moving world. I made myself like I wanted and I get what I want from life.

To my generation of sluts I look damn good so you think I care what you have to say? I just reply because I love to type, I'm on my phone almost all day like everyone my age, so I might as well show an old man with old mentality that the world has changed since 90's and early 00's lol...

Welcome to the future, Hudson or whatever your name is!

another book, yawn. maybe ill touch on a few things, one day ill be 42, I wont 13% when I get that old. with your waist your better staying around 8 your a little thick down there, and the non-aesthetic tattoo makes it look worse, hence why you should laser nd get a torso tattoo

I got some tats they won awards and cost more than your yearly rent (if you don't live at mommy). used to have a lion like you got it tasered and got real ink, who told you your chest tattoo is cool?

not much else to add "its only quiet in church" lol. im guessing everyone thinks your annoying and need to shut up but don't want to hurt your feelings, you talk non-stop I can tell. cya Twinkie go get a real tattoo artist to fix your bra

 

[lukiss96]

another book, yawn. maybe ill touch on a few things, one day ill be 42, I wont 13% when I get that old. with your waist your better staying around 8 your a little thick down there, and the non-aesthetic tattoo makes it look worse, hence why you should laser nd get a torso tattoo

I got some tats they won awards and cost more than your yearly rent (if you don't live at mommy). used to have a lion like you got it tasered and got real ink, who told you your chest tattoo is cool?

not much else to add "its only quiet in church" lol. im guessing everyone thinks your annoying and need to shut up but don't want to hurt your feelings, you talk non-stop I can tell. cya Twinkie go get a real tattoo artist to fix your bra

Omg, you're such an idiot it makes me think why I'm even bothering with you...

Real fucking ink, wtf is this dumb term? You got the rock tattoo or some lame no meaning bs tattooed is that what you mean...

So much negativity from you, it's like you live in a fucked up city/province whatever the fuck that is anyway. Full of negative people like yourself.

Omg, come to the Europe man you will see brighter life and how awesome people live here. Unlike you with your dumb mentality. Maybe you're from Texas? As you act like a dumb cowboy idiot.

Come on show me what a "real man" looks like then? No, you can't.

By the way, I'm tall and muscular and I can at least dress unlike you with that dad jeans that maybe were cool in 90's and some country style sleeveless shirt.

Don't you understand that you're a nobody and annoying just like donkey was?

Everyone would laugh at you with your dumb mentality and the way you dress here, nobody would even allow you in the city with your stupid pick up truck that even farmers don't drive, no here they drive Mercedes SUV you fool.

We have class unlike you morons. Fucking peasants. Learn to fucking style and dress yourself. No wonder so many obese whales over there.

So Hudson, old man, are you gonna show your ugly face or not?

I can't believe I waste my time on this redneck fool that I out level everywhere.

Even if somehow you're bigger than me or leaner, I'm better than you overall I'm just sure about it. Why do I even challenge 40+ year old this is embarrassing...

There is no contest you fucking dumb idiot, I out shine you in every possible way you old fool. Deal with it. 9 out of 10 sluts would choose me any day over you so you can just fuck off old man. Maybe that 1 ugly fat or just plain unattractive bitch would choose you because she knows I'm just out of her reach.

You are just stupid moron that couldn't adapt, so you shall perish.

 

[hudson98]

lol good god

rick you seem like a secure man, can you explain to this sissy why he is such an easy target. to bully because he is insecure, weak, feminine, and repeats the same thing every post and types for 20 minutes to defend himself to someone he doesn't know online>. maybe he will hear it from you

Back on topic Zyzzz died because he was a rec drug addict, abused tren, used every drug in the book, probably took daily diruetics mixed with alcohol and did everything wrong. Not because he was 8 percent year round, which is perfectly healthy. Hell we live in a world where half the people are obese and 70% of guys on AAS need BP meds, the world would be healthier if we were all 7 or 8 percent and its not hard to do if you use a LITTLE AAS, count calories, and don't try and be a mass monster. AAS aren't even killing these guys it walking around 250lbs putting all that strain on the heart kidneys and eating 6k calories screwing up digestion too, then needing all these big Pharma drugs to feel right.

 

[Rickt]

lol good god

rick you seem like a secure man, can you explain to this sissy why he is such an easy target. to bully because he is insecure, weak, feminine, and repeats the same thing every post and types for 20 minutes to defend himself to someone he doesn't know online>. maybe he will hear it from you

Back on topic Zyzzz died because he was a rec drug addict, abused tren, used every drug in the book, probably took daily diruetics mixed with alcohol and did everything wrong. Not because he was 8 percent year round, which is perfectly healthy. Hell we live in a world where half the people are obese and 70% of guys on AAS need BP meds, the world would be healthier if we were all 7 or 8 percent and its not hard to do if you use a LITTLE AAS, count calories, and don't try and be a mass monster. AAS aren't even killing these guys it walking around 250lbs putting all that strain on the heart kidneys and eating 6k calories screwing up digestion too, then needing all these big Pharma drugs to feel right.

Nice to see we are back on point. Yes zyzz and vanmonger or what ever his name is dont represent australian bodybuilding well. Thankfully lee priest does. Outside of australia lee is just another name. But here he an example of what can happen if the right person does a sport that suits his body type.
As for the other topic enough said ten posts ago. I cant believe that you said you are picking on an easy target. You put yourself down saying that. It would be like you chalanging me to a fist fight. I wouldnt stand a chance. Im sure you wouldnt feel any pride fighting a grand father of 9 and knocking him down in one punch.

 

[canadian mutant]

This thread needs to be nuked

 

[BawlsDeep]

We have class unlike you morons.

Indeed

 

[lukiss96]

I'd spit in your face with pleasure.
@hudson98

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

I want to add that I think the congenital heart defect is a bullshit statement his family said to protect their reputation.

Could have even given the actual diagnosis but they gave a BS response. I don't blame the family though.

DNP, rec drugs, heavy AAS use, diuretics, and immaturity is what killed him.

Tend to agree. His own brother (Said aka 'Chestbrah') said that he died because of 'the social pressure he was under to constantly build more muscle' in some YouTube video. But then he also threatened to sue me if I implied his brother died as a result of his drug use. Seems a bit contradictory to me. How is social pressure related to the alleged congenital heart defect? I mean maybe he had a congenital heart defect that was exacerbated by his drug use, but it seems that most people would attribute his death to his drug use and highlighting that would help people realise the dangers of combining recreational drugs with enhancement drugs

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

I’ve always wondered what Zyzz was like, but was simply too afraid to ask. Thanks Mair for dedicating your career to researching for us.

You're very welcome. Tough job but someone has to do it

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Zyzz appeals to incels who can't get laid. @lukiss96

he does actually. I have seen him mentioned on their websites. As far as I know Zyzz wasn't in these groups himself (I don't think they were as big a thing back in 2011 when he died) but he has definitely been picked up by them

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

year round at sub 8% body fat can’t be healthy for naturals much less people already using/abusing PEDs solely for image related reasons. I can appreciate the positive message regarding lifting yourself up with hard work, but if your self worth is primarily based on low body fat/image and how you are perceived by others/treating women like shit, that’s really toxic as hell. it really reminds me of eating disorders among teenage girls + just additional drug abuse and positive manosphere vibes brah.

tend to agree. but then sometimes I think bodybuilding groups can often appear a bit like the pro-anorexia groups, especially the more reckless bodybuilding groups

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Was he gay? Asking for a friend.

 

[lukiss96]

I'm sorry for my behaviour, sometimes it gets out of hand. I treat people good usually, it's just when they attack me it happens. Bad people deserve it anyway.

Also @MairUnderwood(Researcher) thank you for your work and effort you put in. You truly are passionate and strong person. Respect.

 

[GuerillaPete]

Come on man all is cool, just I hate to say but still there are limits when it comes to your age. I respect fit older men and admire them as a father figure too, before hudson assumes I also do like them in some other creepy way, no I like them as a persona and the work they put in. So I respect you for that.

@GuerillaPete okay, I understand where you are coming from. Idk are emissions not hitting you hard these days? I mean I love my e38 98 740i v8 from USA, but omg I can't maintain this beast, with fuel prices going up to 2.30 euro per liter it's insanity... also co2 yearly cost me crazy. So it's parked in my garage.

BMW 1 series convertible, yeah, but it's not like your usual 1 series as it's 123d 200kw stage 1 chip with custom turbos and m sport + rdx, I can smoke a lot of cars believe me and if not straight line then on the first corner I can wave them goodbye! I even took it to the local race track and it was one hell of a ride!

My dream is like BMW M3 GTR from NFS Most Wanted 05, but man this car is rarer than Ferrari here...


I have my own problems, I know, it's just stupid I get super obsessed with something and can't stop. So that's why I avoid 19 nors, they fuck me up even more...

But thanks man, I mean we have talked before and we have different opinion and it's cool. Maybe you know on forum people can't really be like in real life. I mean maybe in reality we could all be drinking shots at club and all would be fine and have a good time, here it's just different environment.

Such a different cultures though, how do you find US anyway?

And you have a fit body too, I thought you were a bit younger though, but it's good to see people in their mid 30's being fit. I can respect you for that too, because it's quite rare to know people like this. Most are lazy.

I'm def not gay. It's pretty normal to be like that here. Nobody likes to dress and appear bland and gray, everyone wants to be colorful and noticed. It's just my preferences and things I like for example gold iPhone max looks great to me, to you and others it's gay and so on...


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Nobody is perfect dude don't sweat it .
I like bmw’s to i owned a 535d it was a rocket .

 

[hudson98]

I'd spit in your face with pleasure.
@hudson98

you do realize you have Aspergers right? the way you act, defensive, emotional, acting like a woman, going from sad to angry, and your face looks like you have Aspergers. want plastic surgery on your chest lol, high dosages of accutaine and your scars and trauma don't account for the way you act, you should get diagnosed and get some CBT therapy little lady

 

[lukiss96]

you do realize you have Aspergers right? the way you act, defensive, emotional, acting like a woman, going from sad to angry, and your face looks like you have Aspergers. want plastic surgery on your chest lol, high dosages of accutaine and your scars and trauma don't account for the way you act, you should get diagnosed and get some CBT therapy little lady

I don't care...

I'm not perfect but I look better than 90+ % of people. I have no insecurities. I will talk and do whatever I want, you are not gonna stop me. Fuck you and your pointless existence. Little manlet.