Extending cycle to 16 weeks, what to add?

[Switcha2011]

As some of you might already know from my previous post, I'm "half" way through a test dbol npp. I've had to drop the npp due to the paranoid sides getting too much. Also dropped the dbol as I was running it for 6 weeks already, so I'm now on week 8-9 and only on test 500 per week.

I don't want to cut the cycle short as I haven't really been able to smash it over Christmas so feels like a complete waste of a cycle if I'm honest. I wouldn't mind extending it to 16-20 weeks if needed but not sure what to add in? I've only ever tried dbol npp and test. I have a good few weeks worth of dbol left but have already ran this for 6 weeks with 2-3 week break up until now? Any recommendations would be appreciated! Less pinning the better aswell haha.

Happy new year to you all

 

[fooba]

have you tried adding more food? and not more drugs???

 

[Juicedhead]

This is why i permablast. Depends what you have on hand, me personally id just up my test.

 

[makeway]

Given it’s the latter half of your cycle and spring is right around the corner; I’d run either:

A) primo 500 + var 50

Or

B) Tren E 2-400 + var 50

Or

C) Mast 400 + var 50

Throw 4-8iu hgh in there are you’ll be looking great!

 

[ackmack78]

Id probably throw some Mast or Primo in there. You didn't say what your NPP dose was but you could throw just a little back in. Like 100-200mg a week plus some Mast

 

[BigTomJ]

You don't want to experiment with something you've never used before in the ass end of a cycle.


Run the test through to the end, you could even bump it a little if you wanted, but adding something new would be foolish

 

[farbeyonddriven]

You don't want to experiment with something you've never used before in the ass end of a cycle.


Run the test through to the end, you could even bump it a little if you wanted, but adding something new would be foolish

He's not at the ass end. It appears he is halfway through or a little more than halfway and already dropped 2 of 3 compounds.
Why is it foolish to add something he's never used before in the middle of a long cycle?

He knows he doesn't agree with NPP. I see no harm in adding something like mast or primo and the remainder of the cycle being just test/mast or test/primo.

If he does add anything, I believe it should just be one compound so if he has negative or positive reactions, he knows what to attribute it to.

 

[Mishka]

This is why i permablast. Depends what you have on hand, me personally id just up my test.

Really permaBLAST, no cruises inbetween?

 

[BigTomJ]

He's not at the ass end. It appears he is halfway through or a little more than halfway and already dropped 2 of 3 compounds.

I don't count cutting an oral after a full 6 weeks for dropping 1/3 of his compounds

Why is it foolish to add something he's never used before in the middle of a long cycle?

Because you don't know what your response would be, how your aromatization will change, without the time to adjust them and run for a meaningful amount of time.

I don't count 16 weeks on a moderate dosages as being "long"

He knows he doesn't agree with NPP. I see no harm in adding something like mast or primo and the remainder of the cycle being just test/mast or test/primo.

Because that would require at least 1 set of mid cycle bloodwork, ideally two, to determine if and how the primo/mast effected his individual aromatization rate and estrogen levels.
All for fairly "weak" compounds.

He'd likely get a better response from a modest increase in his test dosage, with the added benefit is he understands how his body responds to test.

If he does add anything, I believe it should just be one compound so if he has negative or positive reactions, he knows what to attribute it to.

Agreed, I'm not his dad, so he doesn't have to listen to me, and is he chooses not to this should be a given

 

[Juicedhead]

Really permaBLAST, no cruises inbetween?

pretty much yeah haha im on trt right now because i had a blood clot in my lung but when im pushing hard yeah ill just use a gram of test and like 800mg of an anabolic and ill just drop the test to 750mg for a few weeks and then go back up.

 

[Mishka]

pretty much yeah haha im on trt right now because i had a blood clot in my lung but when im pushing hard yeah ill just use a gram of test and like 800mg of an anabolic and ill just drop the test to 750mg for a few weeks and then go back up.

nice ... I do almost permablast too ... love the attitude!

 

[makeway]

pretty much yeah haha im on trt right now because i had a blood clot in my lung but when im pushing hard yeah ill just use a gram of test and like 800mg of an anabolic and ill just drop the test to 750mg for a few weeks and then go back up.

I feel your pain. I had three clots since the Covid became a thing. Eliquis for life at this point.

 

[Juicedhead]

I feel your pain. I had three clots since the Covid became a thing. Eliquis for life at this point.

do you still blast gear?

 

[Juicedhead]

nice ... I do almost permablast too ... love the attitude!

I fucking love taking gear man what can i say haha

 

[makeway]

do you still blast gear?

Absolutely. I just watch my hemocrit. My thoughts are, if I get more clots popping two Eliquis a day, then I’m just not meant for this life… is what it is. No clots since Eliquis thankfully.

 

[Juicedhead]

Absolutely. I just watch my hemocrit. My thoughts are, if I get more clots popping two Eliquis a day, then I’m just not meant for this life… is what it is. No clots since Eliquis thankfully.

you take 5mg in the morning and 5mg at night? Thats what im on. pretty sure the clot is gone since i have no pain breathing anymore. I havent researched at all about blasting gear and bodybuilding on a blood thinner. Do you notice anything at all?

 

[makeway]

you take 5mg in the morning and 5mg at night? Thats what im on. pretty sure the clot is gone since i have no pain breathing anymore. I havent researched at all about blasting gear and bodybuilding on a blood thinner. Do you notice anything at all?

Yeah I do. Eliquis doesn’t actually “thin” blood, it inhibits the factors that cause clots to form. So if it’s working, then it should continue to work regardless of what you’re taking. However, it should be noted that no blood thinner on the planet will prevent clots from forming completely, therefore; proper circulation is imperative. 30 minutes walking a day minimum should be performed. On gear, watch out for elevated hemocrit and rbc… as they thicken blood and slow circulation. These days, I stick to HGH, primo, mast, var, tren. and test for those reasons. As far as noticing anything during bodybuilding, I don’t notice anything at all anywhere in my life. Just careful not to cut myself or do anything that can cause internal bleeding.

 

[Juicedhead]

Yeah I do. Eliquis doesn’t actually “thin” blood, it inhibits the factors that cause clots to form. So if it’s working, then it should continue to work regardless of what you’re taking. However, it should be noted that no blood thinner on the planet will prevent clots from forming completely, therefore; proper circulation is imperative. 30 minutes walking a day minimum should be performed. On gear, watch out for elevated hemocrit and rbc… as they thicken blood and slow circulation. These days, I stick to HGH, primo, mast, var, tren. and test for those reasons. As far as noticing anything during bodybuilding, I don’t notice anything at all anywhere in my life. Just careful not to cut myself or do anything that can cause internal bleeding.

how long have you been on eliquis? I like to use eq, probabaly isnt a good idea now. So the reason you would bleed out is because the body just doesnt clot as well? I thought it actually thinned blood ha

 

[makeway]

how long have you been on eliquis? I like to use eq, probabaly isnt a good idea now. So the reason you would bleed out is because the body just doesnt clot as well? I thought it actually thinned blood ha

1 year straight now. Can’t even tell. And yes, it just inhibits the clotting function. Blood thinners don’t actually “thin”.

 

[Juicedhead]

1 year straight now. Can’t even tell. And yes, it just inhibits the clotting function. Blood thinners don’t actually “thin”.

hell yeah. I have my follow up in two weeks. Ive been on eliquis for 16 days but the doc said I might have to stay on it for good.