Feeling like dog shit on aromasin?

[Jet Labs]

I'm on 350 test-ace/350 mast-prop EW with 40mg var ED and started 3.125mgs EOD of asin day before yesterday(to reduce water weight) and now I'm feeling like shit. Does anyone else feel like shit on aromasin and if so did you switch to adex or something else with better results?

Please no "You crashed your estrogen" comments k. Just looking for an alternative to asin that won't make me feel like garbage.

Thanks

 

[RoidRage420]

You said no "you crashed your estrogen" but that sounds a lot like what you did man lol. That's a relatively low dose of test and mast and var being very dry already with mast having ai properties no wonder you feel like dog shit. I would put money on you feeling the same way if you swapped for adex or letro.

I would try a serm instead of an ai 20mg nolva ed if your nips are bugging you or something. Personally I prefer ralox over nolva but up to you

Just for example I'm on test 500mg e3d and 200 Masteron e3d and that dose of mast is enough to keep me from needing an ai or a serm at all. If I take 12.5 asin I'm gonna be dry and flat the next day after pissing all night and feel like shit for a couple days

 

[Jet Labs]

You said no "you crashed your estrogen" but that sounds a lot like what you did man lol. That's a relatively low dose of test and mast and var being very dry already with mast having ai properties no wonder you feel like dog shit. I would put money on you feeling the same way if you swapped for adex or letro.

I would try a serm instead of an ai 20mg nolva ed if your nips are bugging you or something. Personally I prefer ralox over nolva but up to you

Just for example I'm on test 500mg e3d and 200 Masteron e3d and that dose of mast is enough to keep me from needing an ai or a serm at all. If I take 12.5 asin I'm gonna be dry and flat the next day after pissing all night and feel like shit for a couple days

Serms don't do much for water weight, at least not for me. I guess I'll split my 3mg chunk in half lol and try going e3d. I've never tried ralox so maybe I should. Thanks.

 

[SkankHunt]

3.125? What are you cutting the pill into 8ths lol? I’ve always used Pharma Aromasin and never had issues. Throw some proviron in there, maybe itll boost your mood.

 

[RoidRage420]

Serms don't do much for water weight, at least not for me. I guess I'll split my 3mg chunk in half lol and try going e3d. I've never tried ralox so maybe I should. Thanks.

Damn bro how much water you holding on all that mast and var lol? What's your bf?

 

[Ss99]

You shouldn’t even need AI on that much masteron and Anavar, I’ve felt the same as you do in the absence of an AI on similar dosages of those drugs, in my case I would have to increase the test.

 

[eery]

Stop taking aromasin, go get bloods and see that your estro is low.

 

[Jet Labs]

You shouldn’t even need AI on that much masteron and Anavar, I’ve felt the same as you do in the absence of an AI on similar dosages of those drugs, in my case I would have to increase the test.

We all react differently bro. I've gone quite a while without anything, but felt I needed to drop some water to feel better.

 

[Jet Labs]

Damn bro how much water you holding on all that mast and var lol? What's your bf?

16ish

 

[RoidRage420]

16ish

Mmmm that might be a bit of the problem dude. It's a little high to expect no water retention but I wouldn't say you're fat by any means. From personal experience I would tell you to just drop the ai and crush the workouts whe cutting down. You'll see that water retention fuck off real quick when you drop a few points of bf.

At 16% you're not gonna be super cut anyway even if you're dry as a bone. I guess you gotta ask yourself if feeling like shit is worth the bit of water you lose. I would say no but again that's up to you man

 

[Abt]

Mmmm that might be a bit of the problem dude. It's a little high to expect no water retention but I wouldn't say you're fat by any means. From personal experience I would tell you to just drop the ai and crush the workouts whe cutting down. You'll see that water retention fuck off real quick when you drop a few points of bf.

At 16% you're not gonna be super cut anyway even if you're dry as a bone. I guess you gotta ask yourself if feeling like shit is worth the bit of water you lose. I would say no but again that's up to you man

He is kinda fat for bodybuilding standards

 

[Jestopherson]

He is kinda fat for bodybuilding standards

And chances are he's closer to 18-20% people always underestimate bf%

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

I'm on 350 test-ace/350 mast-prop EW with 40mg var ED and started 3.125mgs EOD of asin day before yesterday(to reduce water weight) and now I'm feeling like shit. Does anyone else feel like shit on aromasin and if so did you switch to adex or something else with better results?

Please no "You crashed your estrogen" comments k. Just looking for an alternative to asin that won't make me feel like garbage.

Thanks

Sorry thats a no go. You crashed your e2 or lowered it to the point where the test to e2 ratio is off and thats what matters. My endo doc said so. Dont use AI unless you need it. Stop ignoring your body and protocol. You have no proof you didnt crash it so dont tell people what to say unless you have contrete evidence, go get a blood test. Get off the asin I bet you will feel better. Thats not even that much test to even bother with AI. I didnt even a take Ai once my whole time on aas until recently when my e2 got to 110..
Asin binds to the amromataze as a hormone would but its doesnt convert to anything, its not the asin. On 300mg of test i was at 1300-1500ng and 20e2 and my doc said that was perfect. Your not even aromatizing that much at that dose to begin with

 

[Jet Labs]

He is kinda fat for bodybuilding standards

I slacked off in 2020 no doubt

And chances are he's closer to 18-20% people always underestimate bf%

This is true, but I don't believe I'm that far off. I'm thinking of going for a dexa scan and then do another one when abs are showing really well and then I can post up the pictures along with dexa scan results that way people can see the difference. People still go by those BF% pics on google and most are garbage.

 

[Jet Labs]

Sorry thats a no go. You crashed your e2 or lowered it to the point where the test to e2 ratio is off and thats what matters. My endo doc said so. Dont use AI unless you need it. Stop ignoring your body and protocol. You have no proof you didnt crash it so dont tell people what to say unless you have contrete evidence, go get a blood test. Get off the asin I bet you will feel better. Thats not even that much test to even bother with AI. I didnt even a take Ai once my whole time on aas until recently when my e2 got to 110..
Asin binds to the amromataze as a hormone would but its doesnt convert to anything, its not the asin. On 300mg of test i was at 1300-1500ng and 20e2 and my doc said that was perfect. Your not even aromatizing that much at that dose to begin with

Could very well be true, but I was holding water even on low doses so I think I'll just bite the bullet and stick to 3mg asin once per week. Also just because YOU did this and YOU did that doesn't mean the same course of actions will yield the same results for me you dig? Thanks.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Could very well be true, but I was holding water even on low doses so I think I'll just bite the bullet and stick to 3mg asin once per week. Also just because YOU did this and YOU did that doesn't mean the same course of actions will yield the same results for me you dig? Thanks.

That was just furthering my argument. Also used my endo doc as a credible source soooo have fun feeling like shit and taking unecessary risks, thanks

 

[Jestopherson]

Could very well be true, but I was holding water even on low doses so I think I'll just bite the bullet and stick to 3mg asin once per week. Also just because YOU did this and YOU did that doesn't mean the same course of actions will yield the same results for me you dig? Thanks.

What's your diet like. How much sodium do you take in a day. How much potassium How many grams of carbs, how much water.

If you can't answer those then well..

 

[Jet Labs]

That was just furthering my argument. Also used my endo doc as a credible source soooo have fun feeling like shit and taking unecessary risks, thanks

Why the attitude?

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Why the attitude?

Guess I took what ya said the wrong way? Seemed like you had attitude

 

[malfeasance]

I'm on 350 test-ace/350 mast-prop EW with 40mg var ED and started 3.125mgs EOD of asin day before yesterday(to reduce water weight) and now I'm feeling like shit. Does anyone else feel like shit on aromasin and if so did you switch to adex or something else with better results?

Please no "You crashed your estrogen" comments k. Just looking for an alternative to asin that won't make me feel like garbage.

Thanks

So . . . I won't say the comment you don't want. Not saying it. Not going to say it. Won't say it. Still not saying it. Not saying. Not. No.

But why are you concerned with what you call "water weight?" What's the issue or problem you are trying to address? Maybe a better explanation will lead us to providing you a better solution.