Fertilizer Club, LLC

[movingiron88]

Everybody's crazy, all but me!



Is it honestly news to you that Meso is not taken seriously by most other people in the community due to the fact that a certain kind of people is the most vocal here?

If we are such a joke here, then why do you keep hanging around? That's an insult to all of us if I have ever heard one and I don't really appreciate it. I'm proud of what we do here.

 

[ickyrica]

If we are such a joke here, then why do you keep hanging around? That's an insult to all of us if I have ever heard one and I don't really appreciate it. I'm proud of what we do here.

I notice certain types of people only like moderated boards, and conversely hate Meso. They are usually selling a product and/or a service and we don't care for it. That's when the water works and the fuck meso diatribe starts.

 

[janoshik]

Certain kind of people, as in unmoderated?

That plays a role too, to attract some very vocal minorities with extreme stances, yes.

 

[janoshik]

If we are such a joke here, then why do you keep hanging around? That's an insult to all of us if I have ever heard one and I don't really appreciate it. I'm proud of what we do here.

Did I say you are such a joke?

No, you are putting words into my mouth so you can guilt trip me.
Keep that sort of behavior to the ones that can't see through it.

I was repeatedly told I don't have a thick skin enough over here, but if you and everybody is insulted by that, I start to wonder if you really are that sensitive.


I stated a fact that Meso is not taken seriously by a lot of people, and if you take a peek around on different forums, you will see that you can't disprove my statement.

You chose to take it personally.

 

[janoshik]

I notice certain types of people only like moderated boards, and conversely hate Meso. They are usually selling a product and/or a service and we don't care for it. That's when the water works and the fuck meso diatribe starts.

Do you honestly believe that the majority of the people who dislike it here are vendors?

 

[Gbro]

Losers that want to be spoon fed love moderated boards.

 

[movingiron88]

Did I say you are such a joke?

No, you are putting words into my mouth so you can guilt trip me.
Keep that sort of behavior to the ones that can't see through it.

I was repeatedly told I don't have a thick skin enough over here, but if you and everybody is insulted by that, I start to wonder if you really are that sensitive.


I stated a fact that Meso is not taken seriously by a lot of people, and if you take a peek around on different forums, you will see that you can't disprove my statement.

You chose to take it personally.

Can you answer my question though, why spend so much time on this forum if you think it is a joke?

 

[rpbb]

Do you honestly believe that the majority of the people who dislike it here are vendors?

actually Jano, you should appreciate this board. Youre allowed to say stuff here that you would never get to say anywhere else, and you take full advantage of that, which is what meso is

 

[Gbro]

I was repeatedly told I don't have a thick skin enough over here, but if you and everybody is insulted by that, I start to wonder if you really are that sensitive.

You got caught red handed faking test results and lying about it to cover it up. Now you make excuses and act like mands is the asshole. That just rubs people the wrong way.

Of course you like moderated boards. You pay a little fee to the admin and all of that gets swept under the rug.

 

[Eman]

I stated a fact that Meso is not taken seriously by a lot of people, and if you take a peek around on different forums, you will see that you can't disprove my statement.

One of the reasons it's not taken seriously is because individuals like yourself, with a bad temper, can come here and derail threads and nothing is done about it.

Don't take that as me singling you out either because you're definitely not the only one, I've taken advantage of the system too, but don't act like you're not part of the problem... You've said it yourself haven't you? That you come here for fun but don't really give a shit about the board.

Why should you give a shit either? You're protected on other boards, you have an incentive to be professional. But here, you really do not have that incentive.

The reason this board is both loved and hated is because of censorship, or a lack thereof. It's the best and the worst part of this board... But I'll take the bad with the good before I call a board like Promuscle home. A board that is being run for one purpose, money... Anyone who stands in the way of cash flow is censored so the money train keeps moving. The latter is a joke to me, the former was only created out of necessity because of shitbags like Andre.

 

[janoshik]

Can you answer my question though, why spend so much time on this forum if you think it is a joke?

Can you not read?

Please, quote me on where I said that I think it is a joke and then you may get an answer. If you can't, consider joining reading comprehension course.

actually Jano, you should appreciate this board. Youre allowed to say stuff here that you would never get to say anywhere else, and you take full advantage of that, which is what meso is

I could always say anything anywhere and I don't really differentiate between the boards when I make an answer. It's much more about who am I responding to.

Only cases where something I posted was deleted, that ever happened during the years I've been posting what I think, was on Anasci, where they removed one link from one of posts I've made and at PM.com where I had my signature deleted, I think because of link again.

Such terrible censorship. Jesus.

And I've trashed reps, mods and vendors on many places when they tried to make shit up, trust me.

Losers that want to be spoon fed love moderated boards.

Sure. There's nobody like that on here at all. You're correct and well deserve the elitist attitude

You got caught red handed faking test results and lying about it to cover it up. Now you make excuses and act like mands is the asshole. That just rubs people the wrong way.

Of course you like moderated boards. You pay a little fee to the admin and all of that gets swept under the rug.

No, I started acting like mands I an asshole when he started to become a hypocritical vile malicious liar. I did not insult him ever before.

You assuming I pay anybody anything at all is, honestly, just showing the stupidity of yours.

One of the reasons it's not taken seriously is because individuals like yourself, with a bad temper, can come here and derail threads and nothing is done about it.

Don't take that as me singling you out either because you're definitely not the only one, I've taken advantage of the system too, but don't act like you're not part of the problem... You've said it yourself haven't you? That you come here for fun but don't really give a shit about the board.

Why should you give a shit either? You're protected on other boards, you have an incentive to be professional. But here, you really do not have that incentive.

The reason this board is both loved and hated is because of censorship, or a lack thereof. It's the best and the worst part of this board... But I'll take the bad with the good before I call a board like Promuscle home. A board that is being run for one purpose, money... Anyone who stands in the way of cash flow is censored so the money train keeps moving. The latter is a joke to me, the former was only created out of necessity because of shitbags like Andre.

Meso was treated as a running joke on SST long before I ever posted here.

Thanks to ones like JIM etc. You make false assumptions, but whatever suits you.

I definitely am the part of the problem, you are not wrong, really - you are correct in that it sounds like something I might've said that and I could stand behind that. I've tried to make contributions, but you know, @mands shitposting and nurse JIM lying his guts out have been kinda making it hard. And I mean completely neutral contributions, like, take a peek at my few recent random posts and butthurt mands chiming in.

If you think I am protected on ANY board, you are laughably wrong, @Eman. I have literally ZERO relationships with any administration anywhere.

I have zero idea who Andre is, but whatever, keep talking.


My home community is SST, which was run for free, work was done for free, sources were vetted, users acted like adult people, people helped each other and nobody complained about moderation which was only used to keep the board clean from shit that makes up 90% of posts here.

It was a positive vibrant community for years.

Compare that general emotion with the emotions spread here.

 

[Eman]

Meso was treated as a running joke on SST long before I ever posted here.

Thanks to ones like JIM etc. You make false assumptions, but whatever suits you.

What about my statement was false? I said it falls back to censorship... IE if Jim had been censored then it wouldn't be so much of a "running joke", the exact same word you just accused someone else of putting in your mouth.

I've tried to make contributions, but you know, @mands shitposting and nurse JIM lying his guts out have been kinda making it hard. And I mean completely neutral contributions, like, take a peek at my few recent random posts and butthurt mands chiming in.

I don't really blame you for having a bad taste in your mouth about Meso... I don't think your initial treatment here was necessarily fair or deserved however, don't point the finger at everyone else when you should be pointing the finger at yourself too. You fucked up and left a bad taste in a lot of other people's mouth too, and that is what it is so don't expect to not catch shit because of it.

With that said, I have learned from some of the info you've posted, you're an intelligent individual. But, you did some things you shouldn't have and God damn, you've got an attitude lol... I'd have to meet you in real life to know for sure but, I imagine you're just a passionate person not unlike some of the members here that you detest. It doesn't take away from the fact that you've done some things you shouldn't have done. It turns into a vicious circle of members that are still pissed at you, compounded by members you are still pissed at and a sprinkle of the temper you've admitted gets the best of you. What a combo!

My home community is SST, which was run for free, work was done for free, sources were vetted, users acted like adult people, people helped each other and nobody complained about moderation which was only used to keep the board clean from shit that makes up 90% of posts here.

Sounds great! The line between cleaning up shit posts and censorship is a blurry one... I don't trust mods or admin to make that distinction for me. I get sick of reading the bullshit posts too, which primarily occur in the UG btw and aren't an accurate representation of the entire forum. If I spent all my time in the UG, I'd have a bad view of Meso too.

 

[janoshik]

What about my statement was false? I said it falls back to censorship... IE if Jim had been censored then it wouldn't be so much of a "running joke", the exact same word you just accused someone else of putting in your mouth.

To be honest I'm not sure what I've written that in response to, Eman. Please, scratch that, my apologies. I might've gotten lost in the threads of the discussion. I think that the sentence about the false assumption could've traveled during edits upwards from the part "If you think I am protected ..." Sorry about that.

I don't really blame you for having a bad taste in your mouth about Meso... I don't think your initial treatment here was necessarily fair or deserved however, don't point the finger at everyone else when you should be pointing the finger at yourself too. You fucked up and left a bad taste in a lot of other people's mouth too, and that is what it is so don't expect to not catch shit because of it.

Thank you for sharing your opinion, I value that and I agree with you.

My temper is vile and the situation I've caused could've been sorted out much much better from my side. Unfortunately, I was so fed up by then that I did not feel like that.

With that said, I have learned from some of the info you've posted, you're an intelligent individual. But, you did some things you shouldn't have and God damn, you've got an attitude lol... I'd have to meet you in real life to know for sure but, I imagine you're just a passionate person not unlike some of the members here that you detest. It doesn't take away from the fact that you've done some things you shouldn't have done. It turns into a vicious circle of members that are still pissed at you, compounded by members you are still pissed at and a sprinkle of the temper you've admitted gets the best of you. What a combo!

Again, can't but agree with you. You are 100% correct.

You are quite wise and sober (I know it's not the 100% correct word) to make and post such an assessment in this kind of discussion. It deserves respect.

And thank you for not thinking the worst of me.

I try to let be, I'm quite in control of my temper (at least relatively to what it used to be) and post valuable advice etc where I can.

However it gets really hard when certain member childlishly hops in right away to start another flame war. Mands is losing it way more than I am right now - but that is just my opinion that you might not share.

And to be honest, when he starts a flame war, I can't but enjoy raising his blood pressure. After he turned out into a full on liar just in order to demean me, I don't hold much respect for him anymore.

Sounds great! The line between cleaning up shit posts and censorship is a blurry one... I don't trust mods or admin to make that distinction for me. I get sick of reading the bullshit posts too, which primarily occur in the UG btw and aren't an accurate representation of the entire forum. If I spent all my time in the UG, I'd have a bad view of Meso too.

I can't but agree with you again.

I don't participate much in the 'new' SST because I don't trust mods and admins on it on the very exact same thing.

Tbh I don't this is a bad board (I goddamn love Xenforo, lol), but I think that there is a terrible lack of questioning of people who managed to establish themselves as authorities, (yes, my main problem is JIM and by proxy mands).

Piss matches etc, can be easily ignored, but people who are not from the field can't distinct when pseudomedical/scientific bullshit is being posted, therefore have to rely on authorities. And you yourself have said how does relying on them ends up.

 

[mjf]

@Kracken I'm on day 6 with this. Never tried it before so nothing to reference it to. The first 3 days I did 200mg, splitting it up with 2 tabs, 100mg at a time. Starting day 4, I upped it to 400mg, 200mg 2x a day.

So far I'm underwhelmed by the side effects. I run hotter than most anyway so it's nothing bad. A little heat after eating carbs, night sweating isn't horrible, but I keep my room around 66 to sleep normally. I've had to kick all the covers off at different times of the night.

I take a magnesium supplement after reading some things posted by @Roger rabbit so I'm not sure if that helps or not. If after a little more time I'm still underwhelmed, I may up the dose.

It's colder than normal here and when I work outside, I shed the jacket pretty quickly. Funny, I'll be working with no jacket and a coworker will walk up with a beanie, face cover, jacket, and gloves on.

 

[ickyrica]

Do you honestly believe that the majority of the people who dislike it here are vendors?

Yes, because the people that dislike Meso that have nothing to gain by being here would simply just not come. That will thin the "don't like it here" crowd out quickly. The others that don't like it but remain have something to gain, or something to try and strip away from others. Members like that aren't members, they're trolls.

I know you don't like Meso and yet you keep coming back. I love this place. Interesting, don't you think?

 

[janoshik]

Yes, because the people that dislike Meso that have nothing to gain by being here would simply just not come. That will thin the "don't like it here" crowd out quickly. The others that don't like it but remain have something to gain, or something to try and strip away from others. Members like that aren't members, they're trolls.

I know you don't like Meso and yet you keep coming back. I love this place. Interesting, don't you think?

A lot of people you have described in the first sentence just lurk and you did not regard for them at all.
You have not accounted for that being enough to form an opinion.


Regarding the rest:
I don't like particular members, who are unfortunately among the most active over here. I enjoy trolling them - that much you are correct about.

I do still think that there are people worth discussing and I enjoy talking with them very much. There is also information here that's valuable and projects worth noting.

And I make damn sure to appreciate the positive aspects explicitly.

If you think I don't you have not been paying attention.

 

[Kracken]

@Kracken I'm on day 6 with this. Never tried it before so nothing to reference it to. The first 3 days I did 200mg, splitting it up with 2 tabs, 100mg at a time. Starting day 4, I upped it to 400mg, 200mg 2x a day.

So far I'm underwhelmed by the side effects. I run hotter than most anyway so it's nothing bad. A little heat after eating carbs, night sweating isn't horrible, but I keep my room around 66 to sleep normally. I've had to kick all the covers off at different times of the night.

I take a magnesium supplement after reading some things posted by @Roger rabbit so I'm not sure if that helps or not. If after a little more time I'm still underwhelmed, I may up the dose.

It's colder than normal here and when I work outside, I shed the jacket pretty quickly. Funny, I'll be working with no jacket and a coworker will walk up with a beanie, face cover, jacket, and gloves on.

Thanks! When you say you never tried "it before" do you mean this product in particular or DNP in general?

It sounds like the sides are there but not burdensome, which would be great, assuming it actually works. I guess if you're feeling some heat then it must be working at least somewhat.

Like I said I started last night with 200mg and since then I have felt absolutely nothing. I'll try another 200mg tonight and tomorrow. Even if I feel nothing I don't want to up it until after at least 4 days.

I realize that splitting to 100mg twice a day will keep it more even in the body but at this does is there an advantage to that?

Thanks again!

 

[ickyrica]

A lot of people you have described in the first sentence just lurk and you did not regard for them at all.
You have not accounted for that being enough to form an opinion.


Regarding the rest:
I don't like particular members, who are unfortunately among the most active over here. I enjoy trolling them - that much you are correct about.

I do still think that there are people worth discussing and I enjoy talking with them very much. There is also information here that's valuable and projects worth noting.

And I make damn sure to appreciate the positive aspects explicitly.

If you think I don't you have not been paying attention.

You can keep the company of people who return to a place they don't like, fits your style. I'm going to keep the company of people who like it here.

Masochist is as a masochist does. Been here before...

 

[janoshik]

You can keep the company of people who return to a place they don't like, fits your style. I'm going to keep the company of people who like it here.

Masochist is as a masochist does. Been here before...

sigh

 

[Kracken]

Capsules dosed at 250mg that have a capacity to hold closer to 500mg of powders are ones that give me a bit more pause...

@Eman Why is it that guys don't just use smaller caps?