First Cycle 46yo, Test P/Mast P kind of a fat ass

[Werewolf Piss]

Shooting everyday. First three days 30/60/50mg of each Test P/Mast P. 25g 1 1/2 feels fine. To the quad. I'm not looking forward to switching area. Pissing like a racehorce. Currently 5'10 235lb. Pretty high bodyfat. Lifting hour daily or more. I jog a few miles 2-3 x a week. Probably aim for 440mg within the 7 day week. I dont know if weekly is an accurate way to measure Prop. Seems like its better suited for E or C? Might lower Mast to piss less. Should take pics now. Ive gained and lost(pyramided) weight so often over the years and I am so pale I look like a dead bloated sheep thats washed ashore after drowning at sea. But I have a good vshape hidden there somewhere. Just need to blow up. Eating tons of chicken and protein powder, rice, eggs

So...any advice? Give me shit? I had a lady hit me with some test for a couple weeks about 10 years ago, but I didn't know shit and my balls started crying, so I didnt even get in a proper cycle. Felt good though.(not my balls...they felt not good)

 

[haldoit2]

quad is the worst place to inject too many veins. best spots glutes, shoulders, lats. glutes and lats can take the most oil. and yea balls will hurt when they shut off or turn back on it will last a couple days-weeks

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Agreed. I did quads for a while when I first started. It was easy and didn't hurt. One day the area started hurting. Sore, felt really hot, I had trouble walking and it lasted for quite a few days

The ass is the most forgiving place.

 

[TheBeast08]

Para mi el cuádriceps es un buen lugar no me duele nada, hablando de testo, lo hacía solo que algunas veces al meter la aguja me daba un calambre que me obligaba a sacar la aguja, el resto todo. por lo demás bien y también lo hice en la parte delantera y central del hombro ✌.

 

[anabolicperro]

eventually you will have to start pinning other sites
increase doses every 3-4 weeks
i am guessing you want to lose weight
this is mainly done in the kitchen.
counting calories is the way to go.
if you wanna see nice gradual changes
also keep in mind the more body fat you have the more you tend to aromatize
keep an AI in hand.

 

[TheFlange]

I'd definitely move away from quads, and more to pinning glutes, ventroglutes and lats. Much less painful sites.

Mast feels a little bit of a waste if you're considerably overweight, but it won't hurt, and at the end of the day it'll keep estrogen sides down a little which can only be a bonus.

Keep lifting, keep doing your cardio, keep eating in a slight deficit (you want to get that bodyfat down, otherwise you're not going to see any muscle you build).

Next time round, I'd suggest using enanthate esters instead of prop, will be able to get away with pinning twice weekly then, be a lot less hassle.

 

[fooba]

so youre going to run 2 compounds without knowing how you react to any of those compounds on their own first? how are you going to know whats causing your side effects? stick to one compound, especially since youre just fat and need to work on your diet and training, not use more gear.

 

[Vanargandar]

So...any advice?

The frequent urination is likely due to prostate enlargement from the Mast. I would advise getting bloodwork (specifically PSA) and taking 5mg Tadalafil daily (prophylaxis for BPH). Another option is switching from Mast to Primo. Any particular reason why you're using Prop? Seems like it'd be easier to pin M/W/F with Test E/Mast E (or Primo E), or even EOD.

As far as injecting, personally, I prefer to use a 28g insulin syringe. I place my vials on a coffee warmer for ~5mins, draw the oil from the vial using a 23g needle, backload the oil into the insulin syringe, and pin. This is by far less painful and easier than the conventional way, in my opinion. I also pin delts and switch each time I inject.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

so youre going to run 2 compounds without knowing how you react to any of those compounds on their own first? how are you going to know whats causing your side effects? stick to one compound, especially since youre just fat and need to work on your diet and training, not use more gear.

Im not "just fat", I'm a man, damn it!

Yes, I am going to use two compounds.

 

[Mishka]

I do inject delts, lats, ventro glutes and glutes. Did legs 2 times in decade, both been a mess.

 

[phenominal34]

Im not "just fat", I'm a man, damn it!

Yes, I am going to use two compounds.

He’s asking why are you using 2 compounds ? You have no idea of what only test feels like etc ?

Stick to only test, in your case … 300 mgs a week of test cyp, inject 100 mgs Monday / Thursday / Saturday.

Eat clean aroubd your maint cals and do your cardio/weight. Take a before pic now and an after pic in 16 weeks

 

[anabolicperro]

so youre going to run 2 compounds without knowing how you react to any of those compounds on their own first? how are you going to know whats causing your side effects? stick to one compound, especially since youre just fat and need to work on your diet and training, not use more gear.

If he uses only test he will aromatatise like crazy as he’s fat
Is either a DHT to help estrogen side effects or tons of AI
Your protocol is out dated

 

[Fattyone]

The ass is the most forgiving place.

Just saving this so I can show the wife when she wakes up.





OP if you’re fat mast isn’t gonna do anything for you. Save your health (and apparently your prostate) and your money and use the mast later.

Plus first cycles are generally best kept to one compound (test). There’s a lot you don’t know and can’t learn from just reading and 1 compound at a time is the way to go till experienced.

Also first cycle for losing weight is lame, wasting that golden cherry on fat loss is sad.

Just get on TRT, actual TRT, drop the weight then blast. You’ll have a much better outcome I’d imagine.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

Just saving this so I can show the wife when she wakes up.





OP if you’re fat mast isn’t gonna do anything for you. Save your health (and apparently your prostate) and your money and use the mast later.

Plus first cycles are generally best kept to one compound (test). There’s a lot you don’t know and can’t learn from just reading and 1 compound at a time is the way to go till experienced.

Also first cycle for losing weight is lame, wasting that golden cherry on fat loss is sad.

Just get on TRT, actual TRT, drop the weight then blast. You’ll have a much better outcome I’d imagine.

Love the one liner

The Mast is being used as an AAS, which it is, not for weight loss, but as extra mg of muscle building compound, but also as a way to mitigate estrogen sides, if there were any. Not full proof, but seems like it may help. Besides that, I feel pretty damn good.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

The frequent urination is likely due to prostate enlargement from the Mast. I would advise getting bloodwork (specifically PSA) and taking 5mg Tadalafil daily (prophylaxis for BPH). Another option is switching from Mast to Primo. Any particular reason why you're using Prop? Seems like it'd be easier to pin M/W/F with Test E/Mast E (or Primo E), or even EOD.

As far as injecting, personally, I prefer to use a 28g insulin syringe. I place my vials on a coffee warmer for ~5mins, draw the oil from the vial using a 23g needle, backload the oil into the insulin syringe, and pin. This is by far less painful and easier than the conventional way, in my opinion. I also pin delts and switch each time I inject.

Does the needle screw off on an insulin syringe? Ive wondered why many use large gauge needles. 25g seems alright.

 

[Sector]

Why not just run longer estered test and masteron?

Unless you like jabbing yourself ED or EOD. It can be exciting when you first start, you may even look forward to it, but I promise it'll get old fast. You build less scar tissue with long estered compounds as well, due to less pinning frequency

 

[Werewolf Piss]

Why not just run longer estered test and masteron?

Unless you like jabbing yourself ED or EOD. It can be exciting when you first start, you may even look forward to it, but I promise it'll get old fast. You build less scar tissue with long estered compounds as well, due to less pinning frequency

I get ya. I got a deal on the Prop and I wanted to be able to stop any major sides in a day or two if there were any serious issues. Yeah, shooting aint bad now, but.....

 

[Sector]

I get ya. I got a deal on the Prop and I wanted to be able to stop any major sides in a day or two if there were any serious issues. Yeah, shooting aint bad now, but.....

That's fair. Hope it's a good cycle man

 

[Werewolf Piss]

The frequent urination is likely due to prostate enlargement from the Mast. I would advise getting bloodwork (specifically PSA) and taking 5mg Tadalafil daily (prophylaxis for BPH). Another option is switching from Mast to Primo. Any particular reason why you're using Prop? Seems like it'd be easier to pin M/W/F with Test E/Mast E (or Primo E), or even EOD.

As far as injecting, personally, I prefer to use a 28g insulin syringe. I place my vials on a coffee warmer for ~5mins, draw the oil from the vial using a 23g needle, backload the oil into the insulin syringe, and pin. This is by far less painful and easier than the conventional way, in my opinion. I also pin delts and switch each time I inject.

Why Taladafil? Is the affect different than Sildenafil. Im not familiar with what it does to physiology

 

[grey]

Does the needle screw off on an insulin syringe? Ive wondered why many use large gauge needles. 25g seems alright.

Nope.. they are one-piece affairs.

Some compounds are so viscous that heat and a decent size needle bore are the only way to get them in. Not really an issue for most people's first cycle though.

Lots use slin pins and heat for a whole range of stuff but IM depth injections tend to absorb more predictably.