Same basic MOA just a longer time widow for the vasodilation effects.
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First Cycle 46yo, Test P/Mast P kind of a fat ass
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RekTest
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I used 25/27 for years on TRT and after switching to only 30g for the last year Ill never use anything else.
18g to pull oil 25g to pull gh
Werewolf Piss
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So, they affect is similar enough that Sildenafil should also help? Just a time lag?
yes, though not a lag if memory serves, just that it has a shorter half life.
Ghoul
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You should be on Semaglutide, TRT level Test, Modafinil, and maybe Clen. That with a little physical activity will strip of a ton of fat, the Sema will boost insulin sensitivity and combined with the Test will get some recomposition going, mobilizing visceral fat and shrinking your gut.
Vanargandar
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Easy way to remember is that Sildenafil (Viagra) is for quick boners and Cialis (Tadalafil) is for boners 24/7, but again, at 5mg that's just an added benefit on top of BPH mitigation.
Pretty sure for his goals he shouldn't be running Modafinil and Clen...Semaglutide would be a good addition, however.
Ghoul
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Studies show Modafinal users ingest 30% fewer calories and have a much lower rate of obesity than the general population, so it builds on Sema and gets you better results at a lower dose. Also, it counteracts the energy loss that results from lower calorie intake. The clen....maybe not, I just like the way it feels and the fact it burns off the equivalent of one donut a day lol.
Werewolf Piss
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So, ran 255mg Test Prop/250Mast Prop for the week and besides snapping at a couple of assholes when I should've and would've ignored them. I felt good and horned up. Then I went right into 125t/125m over the next two days and my perfectly fine dong was lethargic after the 2nd day(I was a tad under the weather from a few drinks) I ran a hill in the morning and then had to meet a woman who had money and I had to try NOT to fuck. Haha!(it seemed worse after the recommended Sildenafil too, which was just headache and flushed face inducing)It was horrible and not what I started this for. There will not be a second date and she implied she would get me a new phone. So that's upsetting
Werewolf Piss
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The results, besides what I stated in the above post which is awaiting moderator approval, have been good on a workout regimen which isnt up to par as Im working out at home until I can get back to gymnasium next month
Werewolf Piss
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Whoa. Hit left deltoid for first time. 45mg test Prop and got light headed. Is this common? Warmed oil 25g.
Delt is worrisome with small area
Delt is worrisome with small area
Ghoul
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How long's the pin bro? I've hit delts thousands of times with 27g 1/2" no problems ever.
Werewolf Piss
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1 1/2 but didn't sink it. I had insulin 5/8 but too dumb to figure how to fill it.
Did Mast in right...went swimmingly
Ghoul
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I've tried 20 different needles. These are so much better than any others you'll never go back. They're BD brand, which most hospitals use. The needles are so much sharper than the Chinese crap it makes others feel like they're serrated. They've got a special lubricant coating, so they feel like a smaller gauge. The needle walls are thinner so the inner tube is wider, making drawing and pinning thick oils easier than 27g would usually be. The barrel is 3ml in size but 1ml in capacity so it has thick walls for stiffness and the plunger is super heavy duty, which allows you to get high suction to draw thick oils, while you usually have to use a larger gauge to draw and switch to 27g to pin, it's not necessary here. It has a locking safety cover you flip onto the needle so you don't stab yourself putting the cap back on like I do.
Seriously, they're the Rolls Royce of syringes. Lots of places sell them, I'll give you one link but not endorsing any particular seller. I buy 6 boxes at a time from a different seller to get a big discount, but this place sells single 50 count boxes.
500 pins in each delt with these and no scar tissue.
Google BD 305789 or go to
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Werewolf Piss
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So, ramped up Mast to stop itchy titties today and now I think im figuring out how to run this cycle. At least for me. I wish I figured this out a couple of days ago. Much better attitude and horned out almost immediately after 2nd mast shot today.
Werewolf Piss
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Good info. Ill check them out(at a longer length)
How are you IM injecting with a 1/2" though? Too short, is it not?
Ghoul
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I inject strictly into alternating delts. I'm pretty sure it's often shallow IM, sometimes it's SubQ. Either way, in 1000 pins I've never had an issue, no lumps, no nerves hit, no scar tissue buildup, my levels are stable, I never aspirate, and have no problems, ever. Up to 1ml. It took a lot of painful experimentation to get to this point, so my pain is your gain brother.
That said, if you prefer another gauge/length just go to www.statesurgicalsupply.com and search for "BD Eclipse" and you'll get several pages of options. The ones for approx $20-$30 are a box of 50, the $100ish options are cases of 6 boxes / 300 syringes. All are the same extreme high quality I described. If you're used to the crap from Amazon, the first time you hold one of these will be a real eye opener.
Werewolf Piss
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I buy from Walmart in person. 25g 1 1/2". I'll try these. Thanks for the info again. It sounds too easy. I'd be nervous not aspirating....
Ghoul
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They don't even do it in hospitals any longer.
"Although aspiration prior to intramuscular injection was standard practice until a few years ago, it is no longer recommended by the World Health Organisation and the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention.Jan 22, 2022"
Aspiration before intramuscular vaccines injection, should the debate continue?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Werewolf Piss
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Yes. The WHO declared this during corona. It was to lessen the pain in children getting the covid shot. Then a bunch of teens dropped dead. I'm making a large leap here, but I'll aspirate.They don't even do it in hospitals any longer.
"Although aspiration prior to intramuscular injection was standard practice until a few years ago, it is no longer recommended by the World Health Organisation and the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention.Jan 22, 2022"
Aspiration before intramuscular vaccines injection, should the debate continue?
I am definitely trying these needles though. The 1/2 or 5/8 is tempting, but I'll start with an inch. May try 5/8 in delts. I'm assuming I'm carrying more body fat than you, but I can tell quality differential in needles I use that I purchase together.
Ghoul
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There was a movement away from aspiration before covid, there's very little evidence not doing it causes problems. That said the 1/2" I'm using won't be hitting any arteries, but those 1.5" harpoons are a different story.
I had to go back to some non BD precisionglide needles when I ran out, and I swear serrated was what came to mind. I can only assume under a microscope those cheap needles have a surface like the moon, because I could feel them dragging and tearing going in.
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