First Cycle 46yo, Test P/Mast P kind of a fat ass

[Alias Chosen]

I recently started my first mini-cycle after three months on trt. Currently, I'm on a weekly dose of 300mg of Test C. At 39 years old, 5'9" and 210lbs, I have muscular arms and legs but struggle with a small belly. My recent labs showed high e2 levels, resulting in some water retention and lately a slight increase in bp. Although I donated blood and obtained an AI through my clinic. Another thing is I've switched to underground due to concerns about costs with my clinic. I'm considering adding l-carnitine to accelerate fat burning but wonder if it's worth the investment (can anyone chime on using l-carnitine for energy and fat loss) seems like theres mixed views about it. Right now I’m prioritize trimming down that belly to fully benefit from gear.

 

[Ghoul]

Take GE50516 (aka Cardarine), 20mg daily, which will benefit from the L-carnatine to oxidize fat, Clenbuterol and 2iu HGH daily.

Each will contribute a bit to mobilizing and oxidizing fat from you belly within a couple of months.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

It was recommended in this thread that I take boner pills to counteract some Mast sides to the prostate...even small amounts of that shit give me a headache and make me pissed. Im gonna have to switch needles soon. Im comfortable hitting 6 spots: outer quads, delts and ventroglutes, but ed shooting with 25 it starts to be an issue...er...I can feel it becoming one anyway. Back to the gym, excited to kill it.

 

[Ghoul]

It was recommended in this thread that I take boner pills to counteract some Mast sides to the prostate...even small amounts of that shit give me a headache and make me pissed. Im gonna have to switch needles soon. Im comfortable hitting 6 spots: outer quads, delts and ventroglutes, but ed shooting with 25 it starts to be an issue...er...I can feel it becoming one anyway. Back to the gym, excited to kill it.

Get those BD Eclipses.

Have you tried Cialis? I've been using it daily for a decade. It's much, much better than Viagra. No blue vision, no headaches. Slight stuffy nose that goes away with daily use. Daily dose is supposed to be 2.5mg or 5 mg but I use 10 and love it. Great pumps, super vascular, lowers bp, thick full cock when not erect, piss like I'm 20 again. Just picked up 450 20mg tabs for $150. Makes 2.5mg daily like $2 a MONTH lol.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

I HAVE been taking pics here, but im going to wait until I have a pic that doesn't look like a bloated sheep corpse before I post.

That said, I need a good lat workout and lower back. The two things I avoid because I dont feel like im accomplishing much in those areas. Ive been hammering protien but its time to really track diet now. Im two weeks in. For my own vanity I'm aiming for huge forearms. I could work them everyday.

Im shooting every day.
First week:
255test P
250 Mast P

2nd week:
260 Test P
350 Mast P

For real results should I up Test? I am probably gonna. I need to get Cialis and I am ordering higher gauge needles to help with E.D. injections

5'11 240 to start

 

[Werewolf Piss]

I'm having an issue getting the last drops out of my vials, im gonna pop the tops and drink them, or dump the remainder down my ass**le.


*E.D. stands for everyday

 

[grey]

For real results should I up Test? I am probably gonna. I need to get Cialis and I am ordering higher gauge needles to help with E.D. injections

You are already at more than 4g of gear a week... if that isn't getting results then the sticking point is not going to be the drugs.

More is just going to get the same results with even worse side effects.

 

[Pulpfiction]

Based on your stats and what you have posted I don’t think the mast will do anything other then lower estrogen. I would add semiglutide for fat loss.

 

[BigDadd7]

I HAVE been taking pics here, but im going to wait until I have a pic that doesn't look like a bloated sheep corpse before I post.

Bro... stop being ridiculous. Get on some tirz or whatever, cut carbs and eat protein. You're delusional with this. 300 test to not lose muscle. Why do fat guys want to "bulk" themselves into obesity? Said with love.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

Bro... stop being ridiculous. Get on some tirz or whatever, cut carbs and eat protein. You're delusional with this. 300 test to not lose muscle. Why do fat guys want to "bulk" themselves into obesity? Said with love.

"To not lose muscle" is not my goal at all. I need to bulk up. The Mast is to keep estro side effects at bay while still adding a muscle building compound. I'm getting good results. I look bad from some fat, yes, but gaining and losing weight on body too many times is the main culprit.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

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Based on your stats and what you have posted I don’t think the mast will do anything other then lower estrogen. I would add semiglutide for fat loss.

I'm M bulking. I'm turning this fat into muscle. The Mast is a bulking agent but definitely to keep estrogen sides in check too

 

[Werewolf Piss]

You are already at more than 4g of gear a week... if that isn't getting results then the sticking point is not going to be the drugs.

More is just going to get the same results with even worse side effects.

Those are weekly totals 505mg and 610 first and second week. Im gonna aim for between 400 and 500 total these next few weeks. I see some of these results and what others are taking and want to push it, but you are probably correct...

 

[BigDadd7]

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I'm M bulking. I'm turning this fat into muscle. The Mast is a bulking agent but definitely to keep estrogen sides in check too

You can't "turn fat into muscle." You need to lose weight and then bulk.

 

[Werewolf Piss]

Trying to get big. I weigh over 200 pretty lean as is. Shit, maybe I'll get some tirz in the next couple weeks. I hate adding compounds though. Sides suck

 

[Ghoul]

Trying to get big. I weigh over 200 pretty lean as is. Shit, maybe I'll get some tirz in the next couple weeks. I hate adding compounds though. Sides suck

Once you get passed the adjustment period and on a maintainance dose it's like it's not there. GLPs are amazing stuff, going far beyond weight loss, will keep you alive and well for much longer.

 

[KatharinaFritsch]

Just my two cents on the pinning issue:

I've been rotating for the last 6 months (ED pinning) as follows:

Day 1: Glute (right)
Day 2: Glute (left)
Day 3: Quad (up right)
Day 4: Quad (up left)
Day 5: Quad (middle right)
Day 6: Quad (middle left)

Never have been an issue with quad injects luckily.

If I am pinning in my shoulders the hurt so much it is impossible to even lift my arm up.

 

[KatharinaFritsch]

You can't "turn fat into muscle." You need to lose weight and then bulk.

Depending on how fat you are.

These are tow separate processes in your body. If you are like over 25% BF, it is most definitely possible to lose fat, while in a caloric deficit and simultaneously building muscle.

Especially if you are on AAS.

 

[Pulpfiction]

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I'm M bulking. I'm turning this fat into muscle. The Mast is a bulking agent but definitely to keep estrogen sides in check too

Mast isn’t a bulking agent, people use mast in cycles as a dht compound, to lower estrogen, and for its cosmetic affects, such as drying out before competitions but that only works if you are under 15-14 percent body fat. Fat can’t turn into muscle, they’re 2 separate things, you can build muscle and burn fat at the same time but at the rate you think you will is not going to happen, lose the fat first, then bulk. Much healthier that way also. If I was you I would do this right now, keep your test, crank up on diet, add tirz or semi, and lose the fat . Do wayyyy more research because it seems you need more knowledge on lifting and how the body works/ how gear works. Not being a dick, just trying to help

 

[phenominal34]

Mast isn’t a bulking agent, people use mast in cycles as a dht compound, to lower estrogen, and for its cosmetic affects, such as drying out before competitions but that only works if you are under 15-14 percent body fat. Fat can’t turn into muscle, they’re 2 separate things, you can build muscle and burn fat at the same time but at the rate you think you will is not going to happen, lose the fat first, then bulk. Much healthier that way also. If I was you I would do this right now, keep your test, crank up on diet, add tirz or semi, and lose the fat . Do wayyyy more research because it seems you need more knowledge on lifting and how the body works/ how gear works. Not being a dick, just trying to help

You keep saying Mast lowers estrogen. It does not, Primo has evidence that it does lower estrogen, Mast does not lower estrogen. If so please show evidence / studies.

 

[Pulpfiction]

You keep saying Mast lowers estrogen. It does not, Primo has evidence that it does lower estrogen, Mast does not lower estrogen. If so please show evidence / studies.

Masteron has the ability to inhibit the enzymes responsible for the aromatization of testosterone into estrogen. It’s not my responsibility to post studies about stuff most people know about mast, if you care about why it does lower, go look and im sure you’ll find a few studies or reports. Now one could make the argument that just because it inhibits it l, that it doesn’t actually lower it, but in cycles and others I’ve talked to, it has helped with lowering it or preventing it from aromitizing