First Cycle Test E only or Test E + Tren E

[mindgame1516]

Yeah but after many cycles they come back less now less. Plus Hcg on cycle makes pct recovery so much quicker and Hcg on cycle if you run UT with every cycle you ever run you've shouldn't have to worry about messing up t levels.
@guyzcool please tell me where the hell you heard Hcg above500 desensitize you. Only if your running Hcg with no gear which it will cause the Anne effect as takings cycle now stopping. Your body had to recover it natural fsh not Lh after words is all

 

[mindgame1516]

Lol not Anne effect. It will cause the same effect as taking a cycle. When you stop your body had to balance itself out and to do so will be desensitized a little until pct starts kicking in...

Same with Hcg. When your on a test or whatever cycle your already desensitized dumbass. Hcg is the only thing that will keep your boy close to fullly running . But without , Hcg once your body doesent get those signals to produce fsh and Lh. You will become more absent more r desensitized you'll be

 

[Big_paul]

My goals are very high, IFBB kind of high, I know all the bs you're all gonna say about how young I am or about gaining mass the natural way but I have other plans and I've plateaud for a while now and usually can't get over 175 unless I increase my bf significantly which is not what I want , I can easily be 190 , but obvs not be 10% fb at the same time , unless I train for another 5 years , my question is not a matter of if I should do it or not , it's only a matter of what kind of cycle , so only helpful replies would be appreciated

If you plateaued at 175 lbs. It is almost certain the problem is your diet.

 

[guyzcool]

Yeah but after many cycles they come back less now less. Plus Hcg on cycle makes pct recovery so much quicker and Hcg on cycle if you run UT with every cycle you ever run you've shouldn't have to worry about messing up t levels.
@guyzcool please tell me where the hell you heard Hcg above500 desensitize you. Only if your running Hcg with no gear which it will cause the Anne effect as takings cycle now stopping. Your body had to recover it natural fsh not Lh after words is all

The article on here for it. Idk but better safe than sorry, especially when it comes to desensitation. I agree that it does speed up recovery!

 

[guyzcool]

The hcg isn't necessary I suppose , it's just for cosmetic , cause your nuts would come back during pct anyway I assume

If everything goes right and you have actual pharmaceutical grade PCT drugs. But hcg can help recovery because you don't have to wait for the size to come back. But my nuts came right back with clomid and Nolvadex after 10 days! Now they are full and plump!