First time T3

[HSB]

(Read the bold to save time) Yo, to get right into it I've lost 120 lbs in the past year and a half through swimming. The issue is that it was just swimming. So after season I had a 3 month break and I was skinny fat at the time. I was bulking and my bench went up from 50 to 110 lbs for 8 reps and being able to curl 25 lbs to 45 lbs. I added on a lot of fat, going from 190 lbs to 210 lbs. I also went on vacation a lot so I had gaps where I didn't train. Whats weird is that i'm still the same pants size but whatever. Anyway I was going to quit swimming and stick to bulking but a change of heart happened and I want to go through with swimming since I have my entire life to bulk after that. I have 10 weeks till season and Idk my bf but heres a pic (I'm a little stronger and a tiny bit fatter) and keep in mind my gyno (from a previous high bf) makes me look heavier than I am (6'1 210 lbs).Let me know what you thing my bf is.

So Heres my plan, I ordered the t3 from turkey so it should be here in 3 weeks but I'm still trying to take advantage of noob gains while cutting. I'm young but I'm not stupid. I'm aware taking some anabolic steroid would be more benifical for my situation but at 18 I'm not going near them. T3 production, however doesn't differ from someone my age to someone thats 40 ( and still lifting) So I would get the same effect as any of you, compared to any roids I would get fcked over in the long run. I don't want to go over 50 mcgs per day because like I said I'm still trying to make noob gains and I heard this can be extremely muscle catabolic in high doses. I'm going to be eating 2000 calories and training each body part 2 times a week and short intense cardio 6 times a week with 1 rest day for both. I will be doing intermittent fasting and wont eat till after the nworkouts, and in the morning taking 50 mcgs on an empty stomach along with these supps: Deer antler velvet, L-orithine, L - glutamien, fish oils, Grow tall hgh ( not real hgh just an activator), L- argintine, L- lysine, and ipriflavone. I'm alos going to take creatine before my lifting so I'm not tired I have L-caratine but I've read it interferes with the t3. I bought these supps a long time ago when i started swimming and they gave me a quick 2 inch growth spurt while i was 17 so i figured they create additional hgh. I have a 7 week time period to use t3 so what cycle would work best for me? And how should I taper off. Most importantly what should I expect out of it. If any suggestions to my diet or routine to maximize muscle gain and fat loss please help out. Thanks.

 

[CdnGuy]

Your 18 and need T3 ? Plus not running any test with the T3 ? Wow you're lost kid. GL

edit- dude do it the old fashion way and bust your ass! Clean diet and intense cardio

 

[HSB]

Your 18 and need T3 ? Plus not running any test with the T3 ? Wow your lost kid. GL

I'm not gonna be the average meathead pounding down 100 mcgs. I read that lower doses actually help with protein synthesis and hello no I'm not going near test, at my age that would put me in danger tht. I'm doing a last second 2 1/2 month cut for swimming and I'm trying to get into optimal shape. I'm still losing the weight just need it to be accelerated. It's not about laziness, it's about time. I've lost a lot with time before.

 

[CdnGuy]

I'm not gonna be the average meathead pounding down 100 mcgs. I read that lower doses actually help with protein synthesis and hello no I'm not going near test, at my age that would put me in danger tht. I'm doing a last second 2 1/2 month cut for swimming and I'm trying to get into optimal shape. I'm still losing the weight just need it to be accelerated. It's not about laziness, it's about time. I've lost a lot with time before.

So work for it man. Geezz when I was your age I running track, and playing basketball. Those 2 things alone kept me in great shape. Didn't need to take any drugs. What's happening to the youth today? I tell ya ...they are a generation of laziness. Put your head down suck it up and get to work.

 

[HSB]

So work for it man. Geezz when I was your age I running track, and playing basketball. Those 2 things alone kept me in great shape. Didn't need to take any drugs. What's happening to the youth today? I tell ya they are a generation of laziness. Put your head down suck it and work for it man.

Mofo are you reading any of this or looking at the pictures. I'm training each body part twice a week along with 6 days of cardio in addition to lifting in my strength training class. If that wasn't enough I've lost 120 lbs through nothing but intense year round competitive swimming. i just want t3 because I decided I wanted to long term bulk instead of swim but i had a last second change of heart and now im cutting to be in optimal shape for swimming but I'm not going to be in optimal shape in this timeframe. And I don't want to cut during swimming because I'm waking up at 4 am for 2 hours of intense cardio in addition to 2 and 1/2 hours of intense cardio after school. Are you going to help out or argue I'm lazy on a steroid forum because I can go all day.

 

[CdnGuy]

Mofo all I'm reading is you want encouraging comments to justify you being lazy hence using drugs at 18. Not gonna happen from me. GL bud

 

[Eman]

Congrats on your weight loss man. 120 pounds is really really something to be proud of.

On the T3, I would suggest something lighter at first. In all honesty, I skimmed your posts out of interest of the topic but I think ECA or albuterol would suit you better to start. There are some other options but these are the best starters, IMO.

 

[HSB]

Mofo all I'm reading is you want encouraging comments to justify you being lazy hence using drugs at 18. Not gonna happen from me. GL bud

Nobody wants encouraging comments, I asked for help with developing a cycle and for someone to spot check my routine and diet. A guy on the internet isn't going to convince me I'm lazy because I want to weigh less in the water so I can compete better. It's not like I'm taking AS so I can get an actual edge in competing. It's me putting in the work. I'm not gonna sit on my ass and clap my hands till i'm lean. Why do you take AS? So you can get stronger faster. I would never go near anything but this one time because I have a short time span for this last second decision. I'm taking this so in the future I'll be able to work harder. Dude if you're really not going to help please stop commenting on this forum, maybe if you were considerate and gave me common sense behind your opinion I would have no problem listening to you because my heads not made of stone.

 

[CdnGuy]

Nobody wants encouraging comments, I asked for help with developing a cycle and for someone to spot check my routine and diet. A guy on the internet isn't going to convince me I'm lazy because I want to weigh less in the water so I can compete better. It's not like I'm taking AS so I can get an actual edge in competing. It's me putting in the work. I'm not gonna sit on my ass and clap my hands till i'm lean. Why do you take AS? So you can get stronger faster. I would never go near anything but this one time because I have a short time span for this last second decision. I'm taking this so in the future I'll be able to work harder. Dude if you're really not going to help please stop commenting on this forum, maybe if you were considerate and gave me common sense behind your opinion I would have no problem listening to you because my heads not made of stone.

I did give you help kid ..you don't need drugs at your age!

 

[HSB]

Congrats on your weight loss man. 120 pounds is really really something to be proud of.

On the T3, I would suggest something lighter at first. In all honesty, I skimmed your posts out of interest of the topic but I think ECA or albuterol would suit you better to start. There are some other options but these are the best starters, IMO.

Thanks man, the issue is that this is going to be the only at first, it's a one time thing. I've already bought it but I can go lighter with it at 25 mcgs if you think that would help, but it temporarilly disables the bodies natural t3 production which is 20 mcgs so it would only be a 5 mcg bump.

 

[HSB]

I did give you help kid ..you don't need drugs at your age!

Alright, I'll just make sure to leave my antibiotics in the trash next time I get strep. Use common sense, the body matures different parts at different times. You are very correct to an extent in your statement because at my age taking test would fck me up. But like I said the endrenal system is the first to mature and thats why type 1 diabetes isn't dormant anymore when kids turn 12 - 14. By 16 it is completely matured and is not altered till an old age like 60 when the thyroid goes into hyperactive mode and starts consuming muscle. My body reacting to T3 is no different than yours reacting to T3. You may be able to withstand a higher tolerance but that differs from person to person.

 

[Eman]

Thanks man, the issue is that this is going to be the only at first, it's a one time thing. I've already bought it but I can go lighter with it at 25 mcgs if you think that would help, but it temporarilly disables the bodies natural t3 production which is 20 mcgs so it would only be a 5 mcg bump.

Why is this the only time you're planning to use something?

Have you gotten blood levels tested for thyroid yet?

Do you have an issue with burning away muscle mass as fast as fat?

T3 is a VERY tricky compound. It's really best combined with test as mentioned above. Otherwise, IMO, you can end up the dreaded skinny fat physique. There are much better ways to go about obtaining your goals.

 

[HSB]

Why is this the only time you're planning to use something?

Have you gotten blood levels tested for thyroid yet?

Do you have an issue with burning away muscle mass as fast as fat?

T3 is a VERY tricky compound. It's really best combined with test as mentioned above. Otherwise, IMO, you can end up the dreaded skinny fat physique. There are much better ways to go about obtaining your goals.

I don't like the idea of taking my body out of its natural process but this is only for this drastic measure. Yeah, I had an issue with my thyroid due to a crashed metabolism after dieting for 19 months. I gained 10 lbs and lost them instantly due to weight training. My body reacts to weight lifting very well thats why i want to make that the stable of my routine if im on t3. I would have believed that my doctor would have prescribed it to me if my body didnt react that way. For the most part on my weightloss I've maintained my muscle without lifting, It wasn't much but it was above the average man. I could end up skinny fat if I was low calorie dieting but would I still be able to lose fat if bulking on t3? And at my age isnt my test already naturally high?

 

[Eman]

I could end up skinny fat if I was low calorie dieting but would I still be able to lose fat if bulking on t3? And at my age isnt my test already naturally high?

Just by these two last comments, I'd encourage you to research this compound further.

Yes, you may have high natural test levels at your age... you may not as well. To use T3 and have a focus on fat burning I believe you need to supplement with exogenous testosterone. You WILL burn off fat and muscle simultaneously if you use it alone.

T3 is a great compound don't get me wrong, it's just very tricky like I said. I've used it and I regretted doing so because I pissed away a lot of muscle in the process. There are better ways to go about obtaining your goal and this particular compound is further down the road. Hang onto it and use it later.

As far as you claiming this to be a one time thing because you don't like taking your body out of its natural process... get real. Your journey to a better physique is filled with issues that take your body out of its natural process and it'll fight you every step of the way. There is no one time use of these compounds IMO... it's a journey and you supplement along the way.

 

[CdnGuy]

Just by these two last comments, I'd encourage you to research this compound further.

Yes, you may have high natural test levels at your age... you may not as well. To use T3 and have a focus on fat burning I believe you need to supplement with exogenous testosterone. You WILL burn off fat and muscle simultaneously if you use it alone.

T3 is a great compound don't get me wrong, it's just very tricky like I said. I've used it and I regretted doing so because I pissed away a lot of muscle in the process. There are better ways to go about obtaining your goal and this particular compound is further down the road. Hang onto it and use it later.

As far as you claiming this to be a one time thing because you don't like taking your body out of its natural process... get real. Your journey to a better physique is filled with issues that take your body out of its natural process and it'll fight you every step of the way. There is no one time use of these compounds IMO... it's a journey and you supplement along the way.

Maybe we should let the doctor chime in? See what he thinks @Dr JIM Enjoy OP

 

[HSB]

Alright, i've looked into it a little more and it seems like A LOT of pros started AS in their teens. I'm open to using a test but I'm unsure of what to cycle with the t3. It seems like people are able to gain significant muscle as well while cycling it in with t3. I don't care for the muscle gaining edge, just something moderate that will neutralize the muscle catabolism of T3. Something that doesn't effect DHT as much.

 

[Eman]

Alright, i've looked into it a little more and it seems like A LOT of pros started AS in their teens. I'm open to using a test but I'm unsure of what to cycle with the t3. It seems like people are able to gain significant muscle as well while cycling it in with t3. I don't care for the muscle gaining edge, just something moderate that will neutralize the muscle catabolism of T3. Something that doesn't effect DHT as much.

Lol... okay so you're 18? God help you when Dr Jim arrives...

You don't need test. ESPECIALLY in your current situation.

Why are you hell bent on T3??

 

[CdnGuy]

God help you when Dr Jim arrives

Currently framing this quote brother. lol

 

[Dema]

Op... Look into gw.. It's great for fat loss and endurance which will help you with swimming.. But please research and make you own mind on what you want to put into your body.. I'm just giving you the inch to your mile

I'd stay away from t3 unless blood work and a doc says otherwise...

 

[HSB]

Lol... okay so you're 18? God help you when Dr Jim arrives...

You don't need test. ESPECIALLY in your current situation.

Why are you hell bent on T3??

I'm aware I don't need test but if a low dose of a moderate test will be able to neutralize the catabolic properties of T3 then I would be open to it. And shouldn't the pubescent gyno say something about my test levels already. I'm aware I'm misinformed in a lot of this but I have to learn from somewhere and I rather it be on here then from a bad experience, so I'm more than happy to have people chime in and and answer my questions, that other guy is just trying to insult me though. I'm not disagreeing with you on any of these i'm just asking what if this and that in addition to your knowledge. I'm stuck on T3 because I've been reading up on that for a while and compared to other stuff like DNP it seems easier to control at low doses like 35 - 50 mcgs. And it also seems that it is catabolic to muscles when at a dose of or higher than 75 mcgs. I also figured that I'm able to gain muscle as a noob on it because many skinny high metabolic kids with a crap diet and bad form are still able to gain muscle and stay lean as hell eating nothing but pizza and pb. I figured upping it by only 25 mcgs over it's natural production would get me that result, not upping it by 100 mcgs and taking it with test.