Firsts cycle

[Ftmac85]

hey ! I’m 6’0 190 pounds 34 years old been lifting consecutively for 4 years . Variations of splits but usually lift 6 days a week , I’m currently doing ppl crazy reps, lots of pyramids .
My diet is 4000 calories a day this should give me about a 800 calorie surplus Macros are p240 c430 f122.

My goal with this cycle is to put on as much muscle as possible and hopefully maintain a rough ab outline . Plan to compete in the spring

Cycle
Test cyp- 700mg a week a shot twice a week for 16 weeks .
Tren A -350 mg a week for 8weeks shot eod
Deca- 500 mg a week for 16 weeks
winstrol - 20mg a day I have read wing will decrease SHBG and free up test and other androgens being pretty beneficial for a bulk . Hoping the Deca takes care of join pain .

Arimidex 0.5 eod

And have caber on hand.

I have put a bit of thought into this but would love some feed back and tips . I’m
Good with constructive criticism My first shots were October 24th

 

[FLTestlab]

hey ! I’m 6’0 190 pounds 34 years old been lifting consecutively for 4 years . Variations of splits but usually lift 6 days a week , I’m currently doing ppl crazy reps, lots of pyramids .
My diet is 4000 calories a day this should give me about a 800 calorie surplus Macros are p240 c430 f122.

My goal with this cycle is to put on as much muscle as possible and hopefully maintain a rough ab outline . Plan to compete in the spring

Cycle
Test cyp- 700mg a week a shot twice a week for 16 weeks .
Tren A -350 mg a week for 8weeks shot eod
Deca- 500 mg a week for 16 weeks
winstrol - 20mg a day I have read wing will decrease SHBG and free up test and other androgens being pretty beneficial for a bulk . Hoping the Deca takes care of join pain .

Arimidex 0.5 eod

And have caber on hand.

I have put a bit of thought into this but would love some feed back and tips . I’m
Good with constructive criticism My first shots were October 24th

Whats up bud. Ive done a similar cycle many times but without the winny, I used EQ instead. Its a good cycle. Keep us updated on the progress.

 

[EazyE]

hey ! I’m 6’0 190 pounds 34 years old been lifting consecutively for 4 years . Variations of splits but usually lift 6 days a week , I’m currently doing ppl crazy reps, lots of pyramids .
My diet is 4000 calories a day this should give me about a 800 calorie surplus Macros are p240 c430 f122.

My goal with this cycle is to put on as much muscle as possible and hopefully maintain a rough ab outline . Plan to compete in the spring

Cycle
Test cyp- 700mg a week a shot twice a week for 16 weeks .
Tren A -350 mg a week for 8weeks shot eod
Deca- 500 mg a week for 16 weeks
winstrol - 20mg a day I have read wing will decrease SHBG and free up test and other androgens being pretty beneficial for a bulk . Hoping the Deca takes care of join pain .

Arimidex 0.5 eod

And have caber on hand.

I have put a bit of thought into this but would love some feed back and tips . I’m
Good with constructive criticism My first shots were October 24th

If this is your first cycle why so many compounds? If you want a MASS cycle just keep it simple and basic. Rarely does anyone require Tren on 1st cycle.

 

[VaDImadi]

Yeah that's a huge cycle for your first go

Crack on though

Do you have a starting pic?

 

[VaDImadi]

Just noticed your avi,

You're in good shape, very lean

You should have fantastic results!

 

[Ftmac85]

If this is your first cycle why so many compounds? If you want a MASS cycle just keep it simple and basic. Rarely does anyone require Tren on 1st cycle.

Everything I have read said your first cycle is usually the one where you can pack on the most weight , virgin receptors and what not . I could take 500mg a week for 12 weeks and probably get good results. Or I can take a big
Cycle take advantage of the virgin receptors and blast my body and hopefully get some real phenomenal results. I have a great diet and work out habits so
I think I can take advantage of a cycle like this . The Tren was something I didn’t take lightly and spent months considering it but I have goals and I like experimenting .

 

[Ftmac85]

Just noticed your avi,

You're in good shape, very lean

You should have fantastic results!

Thanks man! Yeah the profile pic was taken day of the first shots!

 

[FLTestlab]

I have goals and I like experimenting .

Experimenting is the best way to test your body out since we are all different. There is no one that can tell you this and that will works great for you butbyou can take it as an advice frim a experience user.

 

[Blange89]

@Ftmac85 so are you starting all compounds on day 1?

 

[EazyE]

I assume you will run the Tren A the last 8 weeks? Seems a little long for first time experience. Why not try 4-6 weeks? As you are lean and plan to stay lean, why not also add in 4 weeks of Drol on the back end of the cycle, while dropping the Winny. Start with 50mg daily and maybe go to 75mg, if required. Drol can provide an incredible look to the muscles. Very full and the Tren will aid with that grainy quality look. If you are going to use Drol along with Deca and Tren, you may require Nolvadex as well. AI will not combat Drol sides.

Whatever you decide, keep a close eye on things as it’s your first cycle. You will learn lots. Do bloodwork and keep a log of everything.

Good luck Bro and keep us posted on progress.

 

[Ftmac85]

I’m actually going to do the Tren first 8 weeks but I was thinking 6 before hand . Would losing that two weeks effect the optimization of the Tren ?. The reason for the Tren kn the beginning is I I didn’t want the Deca and Tren really interacting . I will be off Tren before Deca really kicks in as well in 8 months I wanted to Tren for contest prep . So wanted as big of gap as possible
I was actually going to use droll so I’m happy you said that unfortunately wasn’t able to track any down and pretty new to the bored so didn’t want to go looking yet .

 

[Ftmac85]

Experimenting is the best way to test your body out since we are all different. There is no one that can tell you this and that will works great for you butbyou can take it as an advice frim a experience user.

Experimenting is the best way to test your body out since we are all different. There is no one that can tell you this and that will works great for you butbyou can take it as an advice frim a experience user.

Thanks man ! I agee gotta find out for yourself and make your own mistakes . While still trying to except Info from experienced guys , I’m still very new.

 

[Havah]

The virgin receptor thing doesnt justify such a heavy cycle for a first one tbh, the doses are too high, 4 coumpounds is too much, the cycle is too lenghty

you re lean, you look good, you got time for this, you ll find yourself needed those kind of cycles soon enough but as a starter this just isnt a good idea at all

 

[Btcowboy]

Thanks man ! I agee gotta find out for yourself and make your own mistakes . While still trying to except Info from experienced guys , I’m still very new.

Welcome to the world of AAS.... I used to live in the Mac, left a year before the fire.

I tend to be more on the conservative side when running first cycle, mine was 500mg test c per week, my second was 600mg test c per week plus 100mg drol 4 weeks front and back end of blast. I say 1 compound for first to see how you react to it, then add in a compound at a time each subsequent cycle to test that compound and so on, but that is me.

I think if you are aware of the sides, get regular bloodwork and have all ancillaries on hand to combat any of the sides then do your thing.

 

[FLTestlab]

Thanks man ! I agee gotta find out for yourself and make your own mistakes . While still trying to except Info from experienced guys , I’m still very new.

Thats the way I learned. The advice friends gave me was great and I learned a lot but at the very end i started to notice that not everything was designed for my body/system so I just said FK it and started trying this and that of course all in small low doses. But now i know what I can handle, which way to go at it the best way for me and what does my body tolerate.

We are all learning even the pros just as with anything else in this world.

 

[WeMadeItToAndromeda]

I’m actually going to do the Tren first 8 weeks but I was thinking 6 before hand . Would losing that two weeks effect the optimization of the Tren ?. The reason for the Tren kn the beginning is I I didn’t want the Deca and Tren really interacting . I will be off Tren before Deca really kicks in as well in 8 months I wanted to Tren for contest prep . So wanted as big of gap as possible
I was actually going to use droll so I’m happy you said that unfortunately wasn’t able to track any down and pretty new to the bored so didn’t want to go looking yet .

So are you running all of that in a duration of 16 weeks?

I don't advise all of those compounds for your first cycle, but you're going to do what you're going to do, just like we all would.

Anyway, now that I've said that, I would NOT start the Tren until the Test is saturated in your system. If you're running Deca + Tren ontop of eachother and you're test levels havent built up, there's a good chance you're going to break your dick and end up with a broken dick for a bit.

Just a word of caution.

 

[Ftmac85]

I’m going to run the Tren for the first 8 weeks and then be off it before then Deca fully kicks in . Then just Deca - test - winny. I
Never thought about starting Tren after the test has kicked in , that may definitely have been an over site. Too late though as first shots were yesterday .

 

[Blange89]

I personally would run just the test and deca together for the majority of the cycle to build a base, then drop the deca dose down to 200 and add the tren and winny.

 

[EazyE]

So many options too many compounds for first run as I said before but not up to me to decide what’s best. My advice Is listed in previous post. Test and Deca will put size on like a bull. If you cannot grow on that then....

You don’t need Tren A for 8 weeks, especially at 350/wk first cycle.

If you’re really hung up on a 16 week cycle, you could also run just Test and EQ.

 

[Savagesteve]

Most recommend just to run test your first cycle but that is just to get you used to dialing in the ai and judging some of the possible sides. I wouldn’t run all of that my first cycle. Drop the winstrol and tren and just run the test and deca. I don’t see any mention of getting bloodwork or your pct protocol?