Freak Under Construction Cycle Log

I kicked subs 8 years ago after being on them for 2 years. The withdraw wasn't intense but it was long and dragged out. Took about 3 weeks to get a full nights sleep. But its worth it to be off of it. Great log so far @Whoremoans. Very inspirational

I was only on them six months after being on methadone for a long time. The restless leg and not being able to get comfortable that lingers sucks.

I've been IVing subs for about 4 months now. I've got sober a few times too, completely. I got myself down to about 1mg a day, but when IVing you get 100% of the bioavailability, compared to the 30% from sublingual absorption. I've come off subs once before (orally then) oxys, opana, heroin. I just want to be done with it. I want a normal life. I'm going to try and stick it out at home. I guess this will be my sobriety/drug abuse log, as well as my cycle/training log.

I honestly don't think it's going to be that bad for you. Just keep with the training and it'll help get you feeling better sooner. I think lying around thinking about how bad you feel makes it worse.

When I was on subs I hadn't started shooting up yet, but I did shoot a few here and there later. Never tried opana.

Before I went to a methadone clinic I got 160mg/day of methadone, three 1mg Xanax, three 30mg adderall and four lortabs a day from a doctor for a year along with a bunch of other pills I got off the street and ended up getting cut off cold turkey and that was absolute hell. Made it a few weeks and ended up breaking down and going to the clinic. Wish I hadn't because I wasted eighteen months going there and six months on 16mg/day of suboxone. Didn't accomplish anything with my life during that time and relapsed soon after getting off the subs. Went to rehab and was in and out of jail a bunch of times and always relapsed until I did 21 months straight.

Honestly in a weird way coming off cold turkey in a place like that is easier. At home it's easier to be weak and feel sorry for yourself and you can't really do that locked up. Don't get me wrong I'd choose home if I had the choice though.

Anyway, it takes time, but you'll be glad you got off it in a couple years.
 
I was only on them six months after being on methadone for a long time. The restless leg and not being able to get comfortable that lingers sucks.



I honestly don't think it's going to be that bad for you. Just keep with the training and it'll help get you feeling better sooner. I think lying around thinking about how bad you feel makes it worse.

When I was on subs I hadn't started shooting up yet, but I did shoot a few here and there later. Never tried opana.

Before I went to a methadone clinic I got 160mg/day of methadone, three 1mg Xanax, three 30mg adderall and four lortabs a day from a doctor for a year along with a bunch of other pills I got off the street and ended up getting cut off cold turkey and that was absolute hell. Made it a few weeks and ended up breaking down and going to the clinic. Wish I hadn't because I wasted eighteen months going there and six months on 16mg/day of suboxone. Didn't accomplish anything with my life during that time and relapsed soon after getting off the subs. Went to rehab and was in and out of jail a bunch of times and always relapsed until I did 21 months straight.

Honestly in a weird way coming off cold turkey in a place like that is easier. At home it's easier to be weak and feel sorry for yourself and you can't really do that locked up. Don't get me wrong I'd choose home if I had the choice though.

Anyway, it takes time, but you'll be glad you got off it in a couple years.
I've heard from a few people that it's sorta easier to detox when you're locked up. Because in the back of your mind you know there's no possible way you'll get anything. None of the anxiety of wondering if something will come through. Plus like you said, you can't just be a bitch and feel sorry for yourself in there.
 
I'm cool with joking about pretty much anything, but relapse isn't one of those things. Drugs have nearly destroyed my life, tore my family apart, taken the lives of close friends and family members. Joke about whatever you want but leave that out of it. With that being said you're more than welcome to follow along. That's just a sensitive subject, especially right now.
Well unfortunately your one the same path you have always been on man.your just replacing one with the other.. but best of luck...

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I've began taking a bit of IR oxycodone to lighten the w/d symptoms of the suboxone. My plan is taking a small amount of oxy for a short duration of time to allow the sub to clear my system. Then stop everything all together and hope the w/d symptoms don't last as long as simply quitting the subs cold turkey. At that point I will take seroquil before bed to help me sleep. I'm confident this will be the best way to ease my detox.

I am maintaining my diet to the best of my ability, and doing some light weight training, along with body weight workouts. I have quit pinning the tren because the night sweats and insomnia from detoxing is bad enough without the tren sides. Until I feel comfortable continuing my cycle to the fullest I will be taking a small dose of anavar to prevent muscle loss, which is the true purpose of anavar in the medical world. Also still taking testosterone, plus the EQ will still be in my system. I believe I'll be able to come off the opiates somewhat easily, without too much muscle loss. I'm feeling positive and I'm ready to make these drugs a thing of the past.

Any tips, general conversion, or encouragement would be appreciated.
 
I'm glad that you are giving us a small glimpse into your world. By you posting up your battles will help you keep yourself accountable and many of the people here following will encourage you bro. Keep at it. Every thing takes time. You're well on your way to achieving all that you have set out before you.

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I'm glad that you are giving us a small glimpse into your world. By you posting up your battles will help you keep yourself accountable and many of the people here following will encourage you bro. Keep at it. Every thing takes time. You're well on your way to achieving all that you have set out before you.

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A big reason for me posting all this is to help keep myself accountable and on track. I have to do it for myself and for the sake of my relationship. I have the will power to accomplish this and any other goal I've set for myself.
 
A big reason for me posting all this is to help keep myself accountable and on track. I have to do it for myself and for the sake of my relationship. I have the will power to accomplish this and any other goal I've set for myself.
You have many following bro. Keep it up.

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Hydrocodone would probably be better if you can get it because of less severe withdrawals than oxycodone. Grab some clonidine, too. It eases withdrawals. I believe @pharmacist carries it and it's fairly cheap.
Couldn't find any hydrocodone sadly. That's what I wanted to use initially but I didn't have access, so I'm using 30mg "roxys". Not the best alternative, but it's what I have. Clonidine is a good idea, that's one of the meds they gave us in my first in patient detox program. Currently only have the oxys, seroquil, and an empty wallet.. I'd really like to get my hands on some neurontin. That stuff works wonders for withdrawal when you take a good dose of it.
 
Couldn't find any hydrocodone sadly. That's what I wanted to use initially but I didn't have access, so I'm using 30mg "roxys". Not the best alternative, but it's what I have. Clonidine is a good idea, that's one of the meds they gave us in my first in patient detox program. Currently only have the oxys, seroquil, and an empty wallet.. I'd really like to get my hands on some neurontin. That stuff works wonders for withdrawal when you take a good dose of it.

Yeah, I got clonidine back in the day for that, too. Never tried neurontin or heard that about it. I'd do whatever helped with it.
 
Where I haven't been eating or training to my full capacity over the past couple days due to my current situation, I'm really looking sorta skinny and "flat". I hate it. Being full and thick 24/7 is the way I like to stay, but I know what I'm doing is whats best for me.
 
When i went rehab i was on 16mg subs daily i went to rehab for benzos but you know when you go to rehab they detox you off everything so i had to go from 16mg to zero in 6 days it sucked bad the worst part for me was the RLS and anxiety holly shit i made it 26 days and made my wife pick me up she brought my subs with her i am just planning on staying on them indefinitely lesser of 2 evils for me
 
When i went rehab i was on 16mg subs daily i went to rehab for benzos but you know when you go to rehab they detox you off everything so i had to go from 16mg to zero in 6 days it sucked bad the worst part for me was the RLS and anxiety holly shit i made it 26 days and made my wife pick me up she brought my subs with her i am just planning on staying on them indefinitely lesser of 2 evils for me
I wouldn't be completely against staying on them if it wasn't for my own personal complications.
 
I wouldn't be completely against staying on them if it wasn't for my own personal complications.
I wish I had the will power to quit but I am almost 44yrs old I have abused drugs inluding gear my whole life Its fucked up but I feel like I have to be on some substance or I feel like I am missing out I know that sounds stupid but thats my truth and fortunately the subs fill that void I have cut my gear usage way down also becuase for some reason the older i get the worse the side effects
 
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