GE-TM Labs

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I think someone got a day pass from the rubber room and now they've gone off their Thorazine.

Unfortunately, it looks like the result has been a relapse for poor Ace. He's clearly suffered yet another psychotic break and will face many more months of hospitalization before the voices are silenced again. LEARN FROM ACE! This is why it's so important to take your medications exactly as prescribed by your doctor.

 

[David_Italy]

David of Italy so you have "tested" product previously? Really with what?
Do you know how to detect an excipient?

How do you, thru testing, determine if the excipient is responsible for the filler being used and/or the "sweet taste"

Jim

the problem is that the d-bol ge-tm is not working. If the taste is sweet and d-bol works I was happy all the same. The capsule I opened it because I do not get the results. When you try any d-bol legit, you give me reason.

 

[Dr JIM]

Although the "body experience" is useful, because of idiosyncratic metabolic responses, to the oral bioavailability of any AAS, it is simply inadequate as a measure of efficacy, mate.

The ONLY reliable means of the latter is formal lab testing, period.

However in this instance since DBol is only accessible thru UGL the ability to perform such an analysis approximates ZERO in the US.

Your best recourse is to discuss the matter with David or Daniel BY PM!!

No doubt if your reasonable in your request and are lodging a legitimate complaint IME they have ALWAYS made things right.

However complaints such as; "I tried all but FIVE of the FIFTY capsules of DBol and now want an exchange" is obviously NOT reasonable.

I AM NOT in ANY WAY implying that is your situation and don't want to know.

For all the others out their whom are entertaining entering into an AAS relationship with an UGL without active participation and secondary representation on a forum such as Meso, you are asking to be treated like second class citizens, IME.

Really guys lets be honest here. Would you treat those you know or are familiar with directly or indirectly any different than someone you know NOTHING about?

If you said I would treat everyone the same, you have a very limited understanding of NORMAL human nature.

While I'm not suggesting those whom order from an AAS labs, as a relatively unknown entity, will be scammed, the occurrence is more frequent than chance alone.

Moreover very FEW labs will check and double check orders for the unknowns out there.

The point become an ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING MEMBER of a solid and well respected forum such as Meso and the chances of being "screwed", overlooked, or given a lesser degree of commitment by a lab are GREATLY DIMINISHED IME.

The problem is most want the cheap way out. they often order as a nobody from an relatively unknown lab, whom processes your order like your a nobody and delivers the order to nobody or to a nobody !!!

Folks unfortunately that's how it is!

So get off your asses and participate or get screwed!

Jim

 

[biggerben69]

Hello,

This is my quick reaction to David_Italy about the sweet taste of the powder inside GE-TM labs cps.

Other reactions will follow.

The reason why its sweet, is because to fill up one cps you need about 500 mg, since one cps contains 10 mg of methandienone only, you need to fill it with an excipient, read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsule_(pharmacy)

The excipient we use is Inulin, and it tastes sweet, read here:

Inulin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

More facts will be post in a while.



David

With David frm GeTM's blessing(and by blessing I mean springing for the cost of renting the hotel room that will be needed) and with David from Italy's willingness to be a participant in an issue he's brought front and center we can run a few tests to perhaps validate some of the answers being offered up by wiki and GetM
To start, it's my understanding that ingesting certain substances can influence the color and flavor of human excretions.
For example, I believe it to be accepted that after ingesting asparagus, urine takes on quite a pungent and unique odor. As far as influencing the flavor of said urine, I can't say that has been documented.
Now, before jumping into the sweetness from the dbol and where it's coming from let's, for our benefit and to get better acquainted, attempt a similar experiment with the pineapple.
I've read in several periodicals over the years that the pineapple for a reason I haven't discovered can and actually does make the ejaculate of a male noticeably sweeter in taste. I propose a nice dinner, one whole pineapple and then in the name of science David from Italy take me in his mouth until climax and immediately through electronic voice activated recorder report his initial impressions.
It may help to distinguish the difference in chemicals involved that my receiving fellatio be an unwelcomed and forcible act. The adrenaline and the stress hormone, cortisol, will most certainly be present during the rape and may help with baseline reports. Just an idea.

 

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With David frm GeTM's blessing(and by blessing I mean springing for the cost of renting the hotel room that will be needed) and with David from Italy's willingness to be a participant in an issue he's brought front and center we can run a few tests to perhaps validate some of the answers being offered up by wiki and GetM
To start, it's my understanding that ingesting certain substances can influence the color and flavor of human excretions.
For example, I believe it to be accepted that after ingesting asparagus, urine takes on quite a pungent and unique odor. As far as influencing the flavor of said urine, I can't say that has been documented.
Now, before jumping into the sweetness from the dbol and where it's coming from let's, for our benefit and to get better acquainted, attempt a similar experiment with the pineapple.
I've read in several periodicals over the years that the pineapple for a reason I haven't discovered can and actually does make the ejaculate of a male noticeably sweeter in taste. I propose a nice dinner, one whole pineapple and then in the name of science David from Italy take me in his mouth until climax and immediately through electronic voice activated recorder report his initial impressions.
It may help to distinguish the difference in chemicals involved that my receiving fellatio be an unwelcomed and forcible act. The adrenaline and the stress hormone, cortisol, will most certainly be present during the rape and may help with baseline reports. Just an idea.

BB, you are a real trooper, willing to go above and beyond for the community. And all in the name of science. Hats off to you Sir!

 

[Sir Snackalot]

Talk about taking one for the team. Way to be a team player BB.

 

[Mr.Oz]

I have been watching and reading on this site for a long time and I have never posted anything.It has been a guide for me to locate good sources and to know whats bunk out there.I have ordered from GE-TM and used there test cyp. with great results.Ive used other UGL before and by far I believe GE-TM is some of the best quality out there.Their test is the only one besides pharmacy stuff that doesnt give me pain and swelling after injection.I know that when someone new post something especially if they are saying something good about someone they usually get ripped apart and accused of working for the one they talk about but thats not my case.I have been on TRT until lack of insurance cause me to have to look elsewhere for an option more affordable.I was tested while on GE-TM's test cyp. and my levels were at 1200 which for me at my age was way above the range it needed to be.I did that on the last Dr. visit I had with my endocrinologist.Ever since then I have used them and David has went above and beyond in his customer service and his efforts to help me.If any of the stuff I got was ever "bunk" I would know pretty fast cause I have experienced it before.My energy drops to nothing,my sex drive is gone and depression starts to happen.So without a doubt I know that they have a good company that produces quality products and they have earned my trust which I dont give out very easily in this area.I hate seeing others give bad reviews when all my experiences have been the 100% opposite.Thats why I was motivated to post here for the very first time.

 

[biggerben69]

I have been watching and reading on this site for a long time and I have never posted anything.It has been a guide for me to locate good sources and to know whats bunk out there.I have ordered from GE-TM and used there test cyp. with great results.Ive used other UGL before and by far I believe GE-TM is some of the best quality out there.Their test is the only one besides pharmacy stuff that doesnt give me pain and swelling after injection.I know that when someone new post something especially if they are saying something good about someone they usually get ripped apart and accused of working for the one they talk about but thats not my case.I have been on TRT until lack of insurance cause me to have to look elsewhere for an option more affordable.I was tested while on GE-TM's test cyp. and my levels were at 1200 which for me at my age was way above the range it needed to be.I did that on the last Dr. visit I had with my endocrinologist.Ever since then I have used them and David has went above and beyond in his customer service and his efforts to help me.If any of the stuff I got was ever "bunk" I would know pretty fast cause I have experienced it before.My energy drops to nothing,my sex drive is gone and depression starts to happen.So without a doubt I know that they have a good company that produces quality products and they have earned my trust which I dont give out very easily in this area.I hate seeing others give bad reviews when all my experiences have been the 100% opposite.Thats why I was motivated to post here for the very first time.

Have respect for members and structure your paragraphs.I couldn't read the entire fucking thing and I hate you and anyone that may come here to back you up motherfucker. Fuk!
You are obviously either a hired hand of GetM or just another stupid customer they wish they didn't have. I hate you.
You claim to have been reading these past months? You missed my posts and how I have a bit of influence around here?
Did you raise your hand and exclaim, "I'll handle things over there."
You can handle these nuts in your mouth pretty lady.

 

[artex]

How about some lab results?

I'm running GE-TM's Test-E @ 500 mg/wk. I was also running arimidex at .5 mg eod, but think I'll back that down a tad. E2 is plenty low. My stats, 33 yo, 6'3, starting weight ~170. I'm up about 8 lbs so far. Bf is up more than I'd like, so working on the diet.
Let's get to the numbers!

Baseline (pre-cycle):

[B]Testosterone, Serum[/B]
Testosterone, Serum    814    348-1197 ng/dL
[B]Testosterone, Free, Direct[/B]
Free Testosterone(Direct)    17.1    8.7-25.1 pg/mL
[B]Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S[/B]
LH    7.3    1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
[B]FSH, Serum[/B]
FSH    2.9    1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
[B]Estradiol[/B]
Estradiol 30.3 7.6-42.6 pg/mL

After 4 weeks on cycle:

[B]Testosterone, Free+Total LC/MS[/B]
Testosterone, Total, LC/MS    1953.5 HIGH    348.0-1197.0 ng/dL
Free Testosterone(Direct)    50.2 HIGH    8.7-25.1 pg/mL
[B]Testosterone, Serum[/B]
Testosterone, Serum    >1500 HIGH    348-1197 ng/dL
[B]Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S[/B]
LH    0.9 LOW    1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
[B]FSH, Serum[/B]
FSH    1.0 LOW    1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
[B]Estradiol[/B]
Estradiol    16.3    7.6-42.6 pg/mL SO

From natural total T of 814 to 1953 on gear, is that on par for 500 mg/wk? I was expecting it to be a bit higher. But this is my first cycle so I really don't have the experience to judge. I'll let ya'll do that. [)]

 

[Bucky]

How about some lab results?

I'm running GE-TM's Test-E @ 500 mg/wk. I was also running arimidex at .5 mg eod, but think I'll back that down a tad. E2 is plenty low. My stats, 33 yo, 6'3, starting weight ~170. I'm up about 8 lbs so far. Bf is up more than I'd like, so working on the diet.
Let's get to the numbers!

Baseline (pre-cycle):

[B]Testosterone, Serum[/B]
Testosterone, Serum    814    348-1197 ng/dL
[B]Testosterone, Free, Direct[/B]
Free Testosterone(Direct)    17.1    8.7-25.1 pg/mL
[B]Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S[/B]
LH    7.3    1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
[B]FSH, Serum[/B]
FSH    2.9    1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
[B]Estradiol[/B]
Estradiol 30.3 7.6-42.6 pg/mL

After 4 weeks on cycle:

[B]Testosterone, Free+Total LC/MS[/B]
Testosterone, Total, LC/MS    1953.5 HIGH    348.0-1197.0 ng/dL
Free Testosterone(Direct)    50.2 HIGH    8.7-25.1 pg/mL
[B]Testosterone, Serum[/B]
Testosterone, Serum    >1500 HIGH    348-1197 ng/dL
[B]Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S[/B]
LH    0.9 LOW    1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
[B]FSH, Serum[/B]
FSH    1.0 LOW    1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
[B]Estradiol[/B]
Estradiol    16.3    7.6-42.6 pg/mL SO

From natural total T of 814 to 1953 on gear, is that on par for 500 mg/wk? I was expecting it to be a bit higher. But this is my first cycle so I really don't have the experience to judge. I'll let ya'll do that. [)]

Seems low. Are you injecting twice a week? If once a week when did you give the blood sample in relation to the injection (how many days)?

 

[artex]

Seems low. Are you injecting twice a week? If once a week when did you give the blood sample in relation to the injection (how many days)?

Twice a week. Monday morning and Thursday evening.

 

[Bucky]

It should be at/over 3000 at that dosage

 

[Stretch]

It should be at/over 3000 at that dosage

You cannot say that with any certainty.

I'm the last one to back Ge-Tm.

But there are a number of individual factors that will determine the exact blood number. 2000 after 4 weeks is an acceptable result IMO.

 

[Dr JIM]

I've NEVER seen so many misinformed suggestions regarding serum TT levels previously.

Over 3K really how was that number contrived? Why not 4K?

The truth is there are at least six other variables which are unaccounted for, can you give me one?

Well wouldn't you want to know if the level posted is a PEAK, TROUGH or STEADY STATE value?

 

[Bucky]

I stand corrected. I was under the assumption that 250mg twice/week would average you in the 3500 range. No harm no foul.

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh but I did NOT say you were wrong but not enough information was provided by the OP to determine a what his TT level "should be".

First and foremost is whether the posted value is a peak, trough or steady state measurement.

OP when (in hours) AFTER your last injection was your blood drawn?

 

[Stretch]

Oh but I did NOT say you were wrong but not enough information was provided by the OP to determine a what his TT level "should be".

First and foremost is whether the posted value is a peak, trough or steady state measurement.

OP when (in hours) AFTER your last injection was your blood drawn?

What parameters would you expect to see between Peak/trough/steady-state values that would be acceptable Jim?

2000-3000?
1500-3000?

 

[Dr JIM]

That depends! But somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5-2k for a dose of 250 which COULD reach even 3-4 K with much higher dosing and closer injection intervals.

But there is not much to be gained with a TT level of greater than 1.5-2k from an anabolic perspective IME!

 

[Stretch]

That depends! But somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.5-2k for a dose of 250 which COULD reach even 3-4 K with much higher dosing and closer injection intervals.

But there is not much to be gained with a TT level of greater than 1.5-2k from an anabolic perspective IME!

So you're saying once we achieve 1.5-2k we should just hang there? Not try to push it higher lest the sides increase?

 

[artex]

Oh but I did NOT say you were wrong but not enough information was provided by the OP to determine a what his TT level "should be".

First and foremost is whether the posted value is a peak, trough or steady state measurement.

OP when (in hours) AFTER your last injection was your blood drawn?

Blood was drawn on Tuesday morning, so roughly 24 hours from last injection.