Generation gap or is shit slipping.

[x11]

I get I'm an old cunt and am supposed to be all "back in my day.....", I get that. What I don't get is all this identity politics, the number of normies refusing to breed, the number of jobless welfare recipients doing nothing but breeding, the amount of women that can't get a decent man, the amount of decent men ghosting, the lowering of standards to get into police, military, higher education, the shrinking middle class, the west losing it's status as world leaders.......shit most definitely seems to be going to shit.

I'm just a wore out old guy who doesn't get it or there is big dramas brewing??

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I get I'm an old cunt and am supposed to be all "back in my day.....", I get that. What I don't get is all this identity politics, the number of normies refusing to breed, the number of jobless welfare recipients doing nothing but breeding, the amount of women that can't get a decent man, the amount of decent men ghosting, the lowering of standards to get into police, military, higher education, the shrinking middle class, the west losing it's status as world leaders.......shit most definitely seems to be going to shit.

I'm just a wore out old guy who doesn't get it or there is big dramas brewing??

Simple, it's liberalism, which is a continuation of Marxism, which at its heart is about placing an atheist/secular "value system" at the top of all decisions, laws etc.

Value system is an oxymoron in this case, since there is no intrinsic value beyond a political decision process. This runs counter to millennia of pointing to an ethereal higher power backing self-evident or God-given etc absolute rights that guide mortals in their daily lives.

Peculiar as the Creator-based value system is, since it's impossible to prove anything about metaphysical beings, that value system is miles ahead of the secular/atheist/humanist/marxist model which is now bearing down on us. It's unsustainable.

(above said as a libertarian and an agnostic)

 

[x11]

Theocracies ie they whole world before the renaissance were more immoral than modern secular societies.

Value system is an oxymoron in this case, since there is no intrinsic value beyond a political decision process.

This is just not true, you do not have to have belief in any of the thousands of creator myths to have values.

self-evident or God-given etc absolute rights that guide mortals in their daily lives.

Not self evident to me, please demonstrate this evidence.

Peculiar as the Creator-based value system i

You mean irrational.

that value system is miles ahead of the secular/atheist/humanist/marxist

How is value systems based on invisible creators miles ahead of secular, provide an example.

Which Marxist country are you living in?

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Theocracies ie they whole world before the renaissance were more immoral than modern secular societies.

This is just not true, you do not have to have belief in any of the thousands of creator myths to have values.

Not self evident to me, please demonstrate this evidence.

You mean irrational.

How is value systems based on invisible creators miles ahead of secular, provide an example.

Which Marxist country are you living in?

You're a liberal - or progressive - or one of the other designators I used earlier.

It would be a total waste of time to try to enlighten you, you're a product of the current system, and utterly devoid of sufficient knowledge to even begin to have a productive discussion with.

It's actually amusing to read your comments, I can't really call them counterpoints or arguments.

Especially since you react negatively to the system that those of your political persuasion have created, it's puzzling how you can be so without perspective.

Ecpert makes more sense than you.

 

[x11]

You can not support a single claim you made so you make personal attacks instead. That is evidence you are intellectually and morally weak.

FYI I don't vote on traditional party lines. IMO the division of lib/repub is obsolete and libertarianism is too idealistic and unpractical so it can be dismissed.

If you are going to claim you need to believe in one of the thousands of god creator myths to have values and morals you need to at minimum state which god creation myth and demonstrate it exists and describe its moral properties and actions. Good luck with that brah.

 

[MindlessWork]

You can not support a single claim you made so you make personal attacks instead. That is evidence you are intellectually and morally weak.

FYI I don't vote on traditional party lines. IMO the division of lib/repub is obsolete and libertarianism is too idealistic and unpractical so it can be dismissed.

If you are going to claim you need to believe in one of the thousands of god creator myths to have values and morals you need to at minimum state which god creation myth and demonstrate it exists and describe its moral properties and actions. Good luck with that brah.

You sound like someone who's disconnected from the outside world. How's the cat hunting btw?

 

[x11]

I spend most of my time outside in fact.

 

[Mr. Magnificent]

Theocracies ie they whole world before the renaissance were more immoral than modern secular societies.



This is just not true, you do not have to have belief in any of the thousands of creator myths to have values.



Not self evident to me, please demonstrate this evidence.



You mean irrational.



How is value systems based on invisible creators miles ahead of secular, provide an example.

Which Marxist country are you living in?

Never argue with religious nuts, man. It will ruin your day

 

[MindlessWork]

I spend most of my time outside in fact.

Out in the boondocks you must live then...all alone except with your dogs.

 

[x11]

You're a liberal - or progressive

Out in the boondocks you must live then...all alone except with your dogs.

As much as I can but still gotta interact with the world pay bills, taxes and now I got this gym thing going on.

But yah if I was financially independent I would totally isolate myself.

Wouldn't everyone?

 

[MindlessWork]

As much as I can but still gotta interact with the world pay bills, taxes and now I got this gym thing going on.

But yah if I was financially independent I would totally isolate myself.

Wouldn't everyone?

Speaking of the gym, maybe you should invest in a decent home gym setup if you want to be totally isolated yet being able to train when you want.

 

[x11]

Yep, part of the plan for sure.

My useless commercial gym does not allow weights to be put down loudly. Unfortunately I signed up for 2 years and would have to pay out the membership contract.

 

[Apexvallen]

Simple, it's liberalism, which is a continuation of Marxism, which at its heart is about placing an atheist/secular "value system" at the top of all decisions, laws etc.

Value system is an oxymoron in this case, since there is no intrinsic value beyond a political decision process. This runs counter to millennia of pointing to an ethereal higher power backing self-evident or God-given etc absolute rights that guide mortals in their daily lives.

Peculiar as the Creator-based value system is, since it's impossible to prove anything about metaphysical beings, that value system is miles ahead of the secular/atheist/humanist/marxist model which is now bearing down on us. It's unsustainable.

(above said as a libertarian and an agnostic)

Hahahaha wow this was the biggest load of crap I've ever read on here. Yikes...

 

[RealET]

There should be a tax per kid as a multiplier of how many teeth you’re missing.