Getting on my first anabolic- any tips?

[deadlypotato]

Your dose is what is “female anavar”

Man dose of anavar is 50mg-100mg, 10mg anavar wont do anything for a man.

They make anavar in 50mg and then lower mg like 10. The lower dose is called female anavar.

I plan to start at 10mg and titrate it upto 40 mg(ideally not over 30mg), but I'll never go above 40 mg as androgenic effects start becoming pronounced beyond that.

Can I know what do u mean by "it won't do anything for man". Because I believe you have a skewed perception of what the drug is supposed to do.

What you are saying about the dosage is just plain and simply incorrect, I don't know how can I say that without sounding arrogant, but that is just simply the case.

In this study, (https://www.nature.com/articles/sc200982)male patients with spinal cord injury were given 20mg of oxandrolone daily, and had a increase of 1.9% in LBM and 1.5% of decrease in bodyfat after mere 8 weeks.

Keep in mind, that these are unhealthy people undergoing constant muscle catabolism, and the results of a healthy person would be much more superior, even if we assume for a second the results of a healthy person wouldn't be better, the results above imo are very impressive in the first place.

Now imagine if I run similar 30 mg 8 week cycles 5-6 times over the coming 4-5 years, do you still believe, I won't be able to achieve the goal I want to achieve, if yes, Tell me why?

 

[RekTest]

do you still believe, I won't be able to achieve the goal I want to achieve, if yes, Tell me why?

I have first hand experience with running 100mg anavar daily with 200mg/wk test c, I know for a FACT you will not see what your trying to achieve how you are trying to achieve it.

The only magical weightloss do nothing pill is dnp, again which I have first hand experience with.. not basing bs off of a study.

You can throw all the studies you want, it doesnt change the fact theres more first hand experience in this forum telling you you are wrong, but go on, keep listening to those studies Im sure theyll make it work for you

Your arguing with the whole forum, thinking you know it all because youve read studies, yet everyone you are arguing with all have first hand experience from running everything and knowing how stuff actually works

 

[DECLAN]

Guys, this kid needs psychological counseling or medical help not drugs. Read his posts, he doesn’t want to follow a proper diet or deficit since he is apparently on very low caloric intake already, doesn’t want to exercise and ONLY WANTS TO TAKE ANAVAR!

Get some help kid, drugs is not the answer. Furthermore, this is a harm reduction forum for steroid users who’s life revolve around training and bodybuilding.

Please stay away from AAS and focus on your health.

 

[Vanargandar]

I have first hand experience with running 100mg anavar daily with 200mg/wk test c, I know for a FACT you will not see what your trying to achieve how you are trying to achieve it.

The only magical weightloss do nothing pill is dnp, again which I have first hand experience with.. not basing bs off of a study.

You can throw all the studies you want, it doesnt change the fact theres more first hand experience in this forum telling you you are wrong, but go on, keep listening to those studies Im sure theyll make it work for you

Your arguing with the whole forum, thinking you know it all because youve read studies, yet everyone you are arguing with all have first hand experience from running everything and knowing how stuff actually works

Clinical research, when applied to bodybuilding/etc, can only do so much. Most of these studies are done in women with cancer or during post cancer treatment, burn victims, or something else that's completely irrelevant to most of us. Extrapolating research around AAS (which is already extremely limited), can often times be dubious, at best. Is it a good starting point? Absolutely. But anecdotal evidence, paired with personal experience, and bloodwork is going to give most people a better idea of how these compounds work in vivo then any of these studies.

At this point man, we're talking to a brick wall. I hope people stop responding to OP or he swallows his pride and listens. Either that or he's a troll, which is way too common here nowadays.

 

[BigDadd7]

Everybody, in essence, constantly told me to diet or exercise, when I politely said that is not what I want to do everybody started calling me lazy and insulting me....

There is no magic pill. The idea that you think a females dose of anavar is some undiscovered holy grail is hilarious. You have experienced, jacked bodybuilders telling you this. It really makes you look like just another lazy fat guy looking for a magic pill that doesn't exist.

 

[narta]

Keep in mind, that these are unhealthy people undergoing constant muscle catabolism, and the results of a healthy person would be much more superior,

 

[pnw208]

You are so dumb it hurts, your “strategies and goals” will never work. I would bet my yearly salary on it, anavar only cycle, literally a joke dose at that, with doing nothing but sitting on your ass is going to do NOTHING..
Everyone is telling you you are wrong, but you are so dumb and delusional that you cant take advice


If you dont think prime JB was starving the ever living fuck out of himself running tours..

To be honest you don’t just become a bodybuilder. I guarantee Brad pit was on cycle for fight club but doesn’t have genetics to get biga an d ambient train for it. I would stay natural if I were you. Anyone who says Anavar is only for cutting is full of shit. 70-100mg Avavar makes me huge! Bigger than teen to be honest. If I were you I would stay natty and really push the cardio and diet. The next best thing would be stick to sarms! Run hcg thee whole cycle and start clinic for 4 weeks. The HCG will act as a test base and you can stay on cycle for 12 weeks. With your goal there is no need too do real steroids. Sara work great with minimal shut down. Just make sure to still run HCG as a test base and do clinic for 4-6 weeks depending on how long you were on cycle. Stacking Rad 140 and osterine will give you every bit of gains you could hope for

 

[ashenlmao]

It is well known among most medical professionals that it is very difficult to achieve sustained weight loss which why such an invasive surgery, called the bariatric surgery was designed for obese people.

 

[lukiss96]

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Most of them idiots are looking for an easy way out without even realizing that they still need to put in considerable amounts of effort.

 

[pnw208]

I plan to start at 10mg and titrate it upto 40 mg(ideally not over 30mg), but I'll never go above 40 mg as androgenic effects start becoming pronounced beyond that.

Can I know what do u mean by "it won't do anything for man". Because I believe you have a skewed perception of what the drug is supposed to do.

What you are saying about the dosage is just plain and simply incorrect, I don't know how can I say that without sounding arrogant, but that is just simply the case.

In this study, (https://www.nature.com/articles/sc200982)male patients with spinal cord injury were given 20mg of oxandrolone daily, and had a increase of 1.9% in LBM and 1.5% of decrease in bodyfat after mere 8 weeks.

Keep in mind, that these are unhealthy people undergoing constant muscle catabolism, and the results of a healthy person would be much more superior, even if we assume for a second the results of a healthy person wouldn't be better, the results above imo are very impressive in the first place.

Now imagine if I run similar 30 mg 8 week cycles 5-6 times over the coming 4-5 years, do you still believe, I won't be able to achieve the goal I want to achieve, if yes, Tell me why?

When I first started using gear 10 years ago I would run Anavar at 30, along wit test/whatever. I did notice strength gains for sure but once i tried finally tried 100mg I blew up! better than tren has ever worked for me with not noticeable sides. Used proper TUDCA. NAC… the list goes. On but those are the big ones for liver. If I push tren dose over 300 a week I get some decent gains but sides start getting worse, mainly sleep and paranoia . But 300 tren never made me look as good as 100 Anavar! 30 will give a newbie mild strength gains and possibly some hardness if you’re already very lean but 100 will put on size, burn fat and give you the hard/ full look. Just try for your self. You can titrate up, start at 50 and go up 25 every 2 weeks till you get to 100 for 6-8 weeks. If you’re on the conservative side. Saves money and lets you get the most of each dose. You’ll gain more starting at 100 and running that for 6-8 weeks. I run 100 for 8 weeks every year and this year and liver markers are all perfect. Anything under 50 is a waste and 100 is perfectly safe for most men. This is assuming you’re putting in the proper work in the gym and eating clean. If you’re not doing both then don’t even think about using steroids till you’re already at or near your natural limit

 

[Slowww]

OP take up running. Jog 6 days a week, and try some DIET. You aren’t going to lose any more muscle this way cus you don’t diet anyways.
I’ll write a program for you
Week 1 30 minutes a day
Week 2 35 minutes a day
Week 3 40 minutes a day
And onwards until you can run a 5k which might take you a while.
Then do 5ks but run and try to make small improvements to time. Once a week run a 10k or some shit.

 

[Jurgen]

Well you’re clearly a fucking idiot. You got the best advice from guys who have been doing this for a very long time and all you did was argue every single one of them. Here’s some advice. Just go fuck yourself up because that’s clearly what you want to do and clearly don’t care for actual good advice.