Godtropin IGF Bloodwork

[mands]

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not asking for the reports to see what I was pinning as I'm sure batch to batch is so different that it's pointless. More so because I'm trying to learn more about this in general.

I might not be able to interpret it, but I can try and hopefully learn at some point... at least to some degree.

And I think I owe you an apology in regards to the e.coli protein. I thought you were saying that there was a contaminant, when instead I think my understanding is in fact that e.coli protein is used quite often to produce a multitude of proteins. If my understanding is accurate

I will let you know when I receive.

mands

 

[Naugahyde]

Goodness gracious this is why these pursuits are meaningless.

Read my post one more time
I said the LC/MS reveal small amounts of E-coli PROTEIN and NOT E-COLI!!!!!!

And I also stated I would forward
the ALL the LC/MS info to MANDS to ensure he could review the data himself, if he doesn't have it already.

But the data must first be DOWNLOADED and then CONVERTED into a printable version, using a format I DONT have on my MAC, before it can posted ANYWHERE.

And if he has the time to download, covert and or reformat the data from the labs linked site into a reproducible printable version that's fine by me, but I've more important priorities in my life than revisiting the same issue every time you guys run this stuff, "what's wrong with my GGH" this time.

The bottom line, your barking up the wrong tree fella bc even though the presence of a foreign protein may help explain some of the problems experienced by GT users the most reliable means of elucidating the cause/s remains a controlled clinical trial IN ADDITION to a multitude of analytical and/or biological assays. (All of which was required by the FDA before a U.S rHGH Pharma product is approved for sale)

To that end its obvious once again some don't understand they are looking for a needle (or SEVERAL) in a hay stack, that can NOT be answered by the testing MANDS and I did.

But it seems these facts continue to fall into deaf ears since the primary intent of our GGH AAA was mentioned several times AND that objective was to QUANTIFY GGH and NOT to determine its QUALITY, or to define its safety or relative risk compared to Pharma.

And finally since most of the data is graphic that must be correlated to several other pages of numerical info, with very little narrative info, I have NO DOUBT, very few MM will be able to interpret the info in a meaningful manner.

But JANO will still post endless irrelevant questions, and further expose his ignorance, and fraudulent character.

This IS my last post on this thread, enjoy Jano's company!

But you seemingly 'have time' to be on Meso Rx all the time...
What I've learnt about you in my limited time here is you hold 'ordinary' people, laymen, self confessed NON specialists like myself to an impossibly high standard & burden of proof. Ok fair enough I thought to begin with - this guy has a scientific background, he's a refreshing change from the Yo Bro Goodtogotropin troupe of shilling morons who guage the quality of GH on the severity of CTS symptoms! But this scientific standard you don't actually follow or apply to yourself! You DEMAND evidence based proofs from others but when the same is requested of you just brush them off with excuses & your trademark rudeness & condescension.
How do you back up your statement that Jintropin by Genescience is manufactured to inadequate quality control standards?
Evidence based answers only please, seeing as that's what you are always lecturing us mere mortals to provide!

 

[Marcus]

How do you back up your statement that Jintropin by Genescience is manufactured to inadequate quality control standards?

X2 I would like to know this as well

 

[Ripped]

But you seemingly 'have time' to be on Meso Rx all the time...
What I've learnt about you in my limited time here is you hold 'ordinary' people, laymen, self confessed NON specialists like myself to an impossibly high standard & burden of proof. Ok fair enough I thought to begin with - this guy has a scientific background, he's a refreshing change from the Yo Bro Goodtogotropin troupe of shilling morons who guage the quality of GH on the severity of CTS symptoms! But this scientific standard you don't actually follow or apply to yourself! You DEMAND evidence based proofs from others but when the same is requested of you just brush them off with excuses & your trademark rudeness & condescension.
How do you back up your statement that Jintropin by Genescience is manufactured to inadequate quality control standards?
Evidence based answers only please, seeing as that's what you are always lecturing us mere mortals to provide!

I would have to also agree with this.
I like having discussions after all that is how we either learn or help others.
But I'm not with the my word is gospel and don't question it mentality.

 

[Ripped]

Seems pretty low to me also.
I wouldn't have bought them if I already thought they weren't dosed correctly.

@Marcus I have to apologize for the second part of this post because it isn't actually the truth.
Before I got the GT that was also my main concern was dosing consistency but I went ahead and got them.
I hope you will accept my apologies when I realized what I had said I couldn't edit it.

 

[Marcus]

@Marcus I have to apologize for the second part of this post because it isn't actually the truth.
Before I got the GT that was also my main concern was dosing consistency but I went ahead and got them.
I hope you will accept my apologies when I realized what I had said I couldn't edit it.

Don't stress it man. I didn't think twice about it

 

[Jeffg353]

@jano
@Doug_S

Have a question relating to HPLC capabilities.
Can it detect degradation after GH has been exposed to extreme temperatures for extended periods of time (3+ weeks)? If it can detect said degradation how would that show up as far as the results go...effecting purity level or perhaps as some form of contaminant?

 

[Doug_S]

@jano
@Doug_S

Have a question relating to HPLC capabilities.
Can it detect degradation after GH has been exposed to extreme temperatures for extended periods of time (3+ weeks)? If it can detect said degradation how would that show up as far as the results go...effecting purity level or perhaps as some form of contaminant?

Guys who actually run the HGH analysis need to answer this.

 

[Jeffg353]

Guys who actually run the HGH analysis need to answer this.

Fair enough...just thought I'd add u since u seem to know ur shit. Respect that ur willing to admit ur unsure instead of feeding me some bullshit

 

[Doug_S]

@jano
@Doug_S

Have a question relating to HPLC capabilities.
Can it detect degradation after GH has been exposed to extreme temperatures for extended periods of time (3+ weeks)? If it can detect said degradation how would that show up as far as the results go...effecting purity level or perhaps as some form of contaminant?

Jano had the testing experience to answer that or perhaps Analyze

Fair enough...just thought I'd add u since u seem to know ur shit. Respect that ur willing to admit ur unsure instead of feeding me some bullshit

I am the first to admit I am no protein chemist just a lowly environmental toxicologist who has not analyzed a sample himself for a decade.

Where I shine though is looking at and using data. I lead a team of scientists that has been dealing with a new class of contaminants that is relatively unknown. We are easily in the top three in the nation and top ten in the world for dealing with this stuff. It's all novel and poorly documented so we are trudging through it making changes as we go. My chemist is a beast. She is hands down the smartest person I have ever met. I wish I could let her read some of the gibberish that has been posted here regarding instrumentation. New assholes would be ripped.

The bottom line is I look at a shit load of data every day and use it to guide my decisions. I am in the field, boots on the ground using chemical data to make real time decisions.

I think that is why I find all of this sampling so damned interesting.

 

[janoshik]

@jano
@Doug_S

Have a question relating to HPLC capabilities.
Can it detect degradation after GH has been exposed to extreme temperatures for extended periods of time (3+ weeks)? If it can detect said degradation how would that show up as far as the results go...effecting purity level or perhaps as some form of contaminant?

Guys who actually run the HGH analysis need to answer this.

Original sample:


Sample after 12 hours unrefrigerated and 2 to 3 weeks (I'm not sure) in the fridge - so no extreme temperature fluctuations:




The small peak at around 12 minutes is desamidosomatropin.

The peak after HGH is oxidized HGH, imo, although this hypothesis of mine is not confirmed.

(@mands I think I promised you this piece of data at some point)

 

[janoshik]

I am the first to admit I am no protein chemist just a lowly environmental toxicologist who has not analyzed a sample himself for a decade.

Haha, no worries. I'm on verge of crying every time I'm forced to do anything related to statistical analysis. Ain't nobody knowin' in all.

Well, maybe except our friend JIM, lol

 

[Roco Bama]

I pulled IGF bloods this morning on godtropin. I've been taking 8iu split 4iu AM and PM for the last 10 days. CTS is present but not unbearable except on leg days where my knees hurt a lot when doing leg presses/squats. My body composition changed a bit. My bloated stomach is now flat and I sorta got a 3D look. we'll see what the results come up tomorrow.

 

[Roco Bama]

Here is the thread for my blood results

Godtropin: IGF lab results