Id like to see a copy of the email you sent this chemist SB, somehow I suspect that's whe
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shamrockbear1
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Told him our resident doctor review the labs and just cut and pasted your response nothing else
Really then why did his closing comment to YOU SB as in "you and your resident Dr friend don't know what your talking about"
Moreover your referenced several more times in that vain
SB
The fact is again, your chemist fails to make any statements which invalidate my posts separate of the data which YOU had POSTED!
And that is much more than pure coincidence, IMO
NOTHING I've posted is in error SB and if your are suggesting otherwise, get your chemist on MESO and we shall review the data, as you have posted it, TOGETHER on a open forum!
Jim
Moreover your referenced several more times in that vain
SB
The fact is again, your chemist fails to make any statements which invalidate my posts separate of the data which YOU had POSTED!
And that is much more than pure coincidence, IMO
NOTHING I've posted is in error SB and if your are suggesting otherwise, get your chemist on MESO and we shall review the data, as you have posted it, TOGETHER on a open forum!
Jim
shamrockbear1
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Like I said it's straight forward I told him that our resident doctor no editing at all and that it... I'm just relaying the info that's it...
Safe to say 97% of us have no idea of what you just said.
Talk to the little people.
GOOD POINT BP, lol!
Here maybe this will help.
I'm suggesting SB INTERPRETED and posted a considerable portion of the data obtained by the lab HIMSELF, (WO the necessary lab info or knowledge to do so) rather than the chemist whom perform these tests.
EXAMPLES; NaAdduct (that's AOK) , Dimer formation of AAS, Open outer ring covalent bonds, etc, WTF!
If that's the case then where did the purity data come from?
BC it must be calculated using AUC MS info regardless of it's accuracy. Something this chemist also eludes to !!!
Why didn't the chemist list his interpretation?
Etc, etc, etc.
Wtf you just can't help yourself can you doc.
Carry on.
Carry on.
Big Paul basically my interpretation is SB had tested his raws they came back as X purity , but the only way you can confirm this is by having a sample or samples to compare it against. The lab had nothing to compare it to so how did he come up with that purity. I think thats what the issue is brother.
please correct me if iam wrong Doc.
please correct me if iam wrong Doc.
shamrockbear1
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No I did not in any way post additional info edit or change the info... I cut and pasted your post not try to create a debate but since I have no knowledge of this process I have just posted what you said to the lab and the lab replied to me.
Well if that which you have posted is the "best" analysis of the standard you have seen, it falls far short.
Are you saying the chemist didn't even list the INTENT of the analysis?
Such as sample X submitted for
1) purity analysis
2) parent compound identification
Yet did NOT provide a brief interpretation of the results obtained ?
If that's the case he doesn't work in the private sector AT ALL, bc they want results not RAW DATA.
Otherwise post the ENTIRE analysis SB, bc this one falls far short for consumers in the real world.
I'm particularly interested where he identifies a covalent fragment of an AAS molecule, bc it's simply to unstable to exist as depicted!
Are you saying the chemist didn't even list the INTENT of the analysis?
Such as sample X submitted for
1) purity analysis
2) parent compound identification
Yet did NOT provide a brief interpretation of the results obtained ?
If that's the case he doesn't work in the private sector AT ALL, bc they want results not RAW DATA.
Otherwise post the ENTIRE analysis SB, bc this one falls far short for consumers in the real world.
I'm particularly interested where he identifies a covalent fragment of an AAS molecule, bc it's simply to unstable to exist as depicted!
shamrockbear1
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Dr. Jim I think you and the lab scientist should have a cage fight lol I'm staying out of this scientific sparring contests... I'm just the messenger
Just an update on hi point gear. The gear have from shamrockbear is good IMO. I did not get bloodwork but I'm very happy. I've dropped my dose down and seen no change in anything. My strength is up and libido is of the charts. I'm not personally endorsing this lab just giving My final review of the test cyp. I was very happy with the product and think i can only speak my experiance without bloodwork to back it up..
That does go past the parameters as as I understand them.
Ask him to come to Meso so we can discuss the matter in a civil manner. Hmm well don't tell him Medo is chalked full of I-net "bullies".
I'd really like to discuss the matter with him and pick his brain!
Seriously SB did he not write any narrative report whatsoever?
I'd really like to discuss the matter with him and pick his brain!
Seriously SB did he not write any narrative report whatsoever?
It is as many have suggested, SB is looking for customers!
But who cares as long as the product is GTG and he doesn't embellish analytical data to obtain those customers.
SB you really need to explain these lab discrepancies or obtain another analysis bc this one doesn't say much primarily bc the raw data is incomplete and MUST BE CONFIRMED.
Those on Meso whom elect to use analytical data to expedite the sale of their product, the information obtained should be above reproach.
And a narrative explanation should be provided by the involved lab to specify what, if any, limitations there may be.
Example the likelihood a sample protein is GH based on SDS-PAGE and UVa data alone.
(That's without either a MS, AA or trypsin cleavage analysis)
Well if a road is long enough eventually a few bridges will
also need to be built.
So yea I suspect in this case we are missing a few bridges before this road (or lab test) should be considered complete!'
Regs BP
Jim
shamrockbear1
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Well doc he's unaware of my nefarious motives so I can't have the lab but I will say they are a university lab I think PAC 10 school, come to meso but I appreciate your input you always are a class act...
LadyM
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Wow I haven't been on here in a few months and to no surprise, your "group home brew" has actually turned out to be you trying to peddle your bathtub brewed shit and avoid the COC.
Did everyone just get lazy or apathetic?
You started an UGL and named it Hi Point Gear, admittedly are not using any sterilization equipment, have not complied with the COC regardless of multiple requests and yet somehow are still managing to sell your garbage here. What a fucking joke.
The fact that you circumvented the COC under the guise of a collective brewing operation and people accepted and went along with it, shows how truly pathetic this board is becoming.
You created a product and sold it to other people, the definition of sourcing. There is no debate on that matter, it's just a truth. And SB, you don't even need to respond because your responses are just predictable.
Did everyone just get lazy or apathetic?
You started an UGL and named it Hi Point Gear, admittedly are not using any sterilization equipment, have not complied with the COC regardless of multiple requests and yet somehow are still managing to sell your garbage here. What a fucking joke.
The fact that you circumvented the COC under the guise of a collective brewing operation and people accepted and went along with it, shows how truly pathetic this board is becoming.
You created a product and sold it to other people, the definition of sourcing. There is no debate on that matter, it's just a truth. And SB, you don't even need to respond because your responses are just predictable.
