Gun Control

dutchamerican

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I live in Europe where guns are banned in just about every country but Switzerland. And let me tell u, I have to sit and listen to these European fucks tell me all the time about how America needs to take away the guns. Ok well in Europe the only people with guns are the criminals and the government which are 1 and the same. In Holland where I live if someone breaks into ur house and tries to rape my wife and I kill them I go to fucking jail. The fucking criminals have more rights over here than the honest hard working people. When they banned guns in Britain gun crime went down sure cause there were no more guns. But VIOLENT crime sky rocketed. Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in all of Europe. And by the FBI's own statistics, more guns means less crime. I hate living in Europe and miss my American guns. But it doesnt matter what country Im in if some shit goes down Ill be in the streets fighting period end of story. I dont want to see happen in America what has already happened in Europe. Fuck gun control and fuck the criminal government that has taken over America.
 
To take away guns away is the government way of controlling the people.
First that takes guns away.
Then change the history books.
Change our whole society. To submit and work like the little robots we are. I will not be a slave. I believe in our founding fathers. As long as there is greed there will always be control.
 
I totally agree and its sickening all the ways they try to control us. The founding fathers created America to break free of the fucked up central bank of England. And they gave us guns to prevent a criminal government takeover. Then the same criminals invaded our country through stealth and set up the Fed reserve. They destroyed our constitution and have been trying to take the guns for awhile now. They know they cant fully crash the economy if they dont take the guns. One of the first things Hitler did was take the guns. Im so sick of hearing about it. Right on brother. The more people we have like u that understand the better and stronger America will become.
 
If the American people ever give up their guns, the entire world is in trouble. It's my opinion that the United States is the final obstacle to the 'new world order'. The guns keep our government some what in check. If not for that, there would be even more crooked politics fueled by the über rich. Their end game is one world government that they control.
 
Another great point. I am a firm believer in the new world order. Its not an opinion either its an absolute fact these criminals are setting up a one world government. They publicly and privately admit this as well. And if Im a "conspiracy theorist" for not trusting KNOWN liars and stating exactly what they say that they are doing then so be it. But I will never give up the fight even if I am in Europe. Which the EU was the first step in their one world scheme. NAU (north american union) is in exists also too, they have their own website for it. African union, eurasian union are being put in place as well. Great points bro! Thanks for responding, its nice to see some REAL Americans on this forum :)
 
Don't know if I would call it a conspiracy since the world "leaders" talk of it openly. I just keep reminding myself there's no such thing as ubiquitous law enforcement. Economies crash when governments make the attempt. The closest thing to success was the Soviet Union, and the only stable economy under that system was so poor the rulers lived worse than middle class Americans, and western powers eventually bought them out. Sort of reversed the story of who sold who the hanging rope.
 
To clarify Im not calling it a conspiracy but THEY call us conspiracy theorists when we just repeat what they say, like u said they openly talk about it . But then when we mention it we are conspiracy theorists. Its total bullshit. And yes I totally agree with u about ur USSR comment. Totally true. But the soviet union were still a bunch of communist pigs...IMO.
 
I like how you guys think !! Really the criminals are doing this right in front of us, they dont even hide it because they know most americans sre to fucking stupid to see it !!! I call these americans sheeple and i pitty them !! Take my guns away ! No fucking way, they can pry my smoking gun from my dead hand period.
 
They can have my guns when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers. Open carry is in the process of being passed in Texas. Yeehaw!
 
I like and dislike guns at the same time. I like shooting guns, it's an adrenaline rush like crazy, especially big guns. Though, I won't hunt with guns as it just isn't fun for me. I hunt with a bow and love it. The biggest factor keeping me out of the military/war is guns. Fuck that shit. If war was still fought with swords, battle axes, and even bow and arrow, I'd be all over that but with guns you can be shot down from a sniper from 800+yards away, or even being shot dead from 25 yards from some automatic weapon. I'm not down with that. Yes a bow and arrow could you get you from 50+ yards but at least an arrow can be stopped with a shield. If i'm going to die in battle, I'd want it to be from hand to hand, sword to sword, axe to axe, etc combat. I kind of wish guns had never been invented but only because people do bad things with them which isn't the guns fault.
Tis this problem with many things, capitalism, guns, drugs, etc.. There are enough shit people to fuck up things for the rest of us.

As far as gun control, we definitely don't need to take away guns from the people. MAYBE, make them harder to get but I don't know that I can even stand with that as most often, people who get guns legitimately aren't the ones committing crimes with them. Not to say it doesn't happen, but more often than not the guns used in criminal activity were not obtained legally.
 
I LOVE GUNS, I LOVE GUNS, I LOVE MY GUNS AND ONE MORE TIME I LOVE MY GUNS!!!
 

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Btw dutch why do u live in Europe if you hate it so much? Just curious!!
Good question. Just caught his post calling out Doc S on global warming. Dutch, you seem overtly angry, so whether you are American born or not, and you state Europe is , in the words of Sir Charles,"turribul", why live there?
 
Rather harsh for a eulogy, but 100% true. A grim reminder that government's proxies can occasionally be defeated, and may be universally reviled once they are exposed for what they are.

http://www.crimefilenews.com/2015/04/no-lie-was-off-limits-to-late-sarah.html

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Baltimore, MDSarah Brady had been the face of Gun Control in America for more than three decades. However today at age 73 she has succumbed to a bout of pneumonia.

Brady became the convenient standard bearer for the forces that hate all guns and gun rights. This after a armed madman wounded her husband James Brady who was President Ronald Reagan’s Press Secretary during a 1981assassination attempt.
Brady led a very deceptive campaign that was intended to incrementally outlaw all firearms. She cleverly began to change firearm adjectives and successfully demonized firearms based on simple cosmetics.

Like Brady most Americans were ignorant about guns. She renamed all the firearms that looked somewhat scary as assault weapons.
Assault rifles were actually classic military combat weapons and were by that definition all fully automatic. That meant one pull of the trigger could cause the weapon to fire until it was empty.

Assault weapons were really machine guns already banned by federal laws. Machine guns were already unpopular because they extravagantly consume expensive ammunition.

What she did was redefine millions of semi-automatic rifles and pistols confusing anyone and everyone that they too were machine guns.

She succeeded to get the so-called Assault weapons ban passed into law by a single vote. The law lasted ten years and the crime rate soared anyway.

When the law expired millions of the formerly banned guns were suddenly purchased and the crime rate began to drop like a rock.

Brady always pretended she just wanted to go after the scary guns when she really wanted every last law-abiding American defenseless and helpless to criminals or government gone wrong.

Brady redundantly invented her own statistics, overstated claims of gun deaths and injuries. She used FBI Uniform Crime Reports that lumped justifiable killings by cops and citizens as Homicides suggesting they were all murders.

She cleverly called the ATF gun trace requests as crime gun incidents. ATF routinely traced any and all found weapons or whenever their ownership was questioned. To suggest those guns were involved with criminal events was another very bold lie.

Brady published a grading list for jurisdictions on the basis of their gun laws. The paradox there was that the “A” list states with gun bans or draconian restrictions had the highest murder rates. The “D” list states had few gun laws along with little or no violent crime.

Finally Brady ran out of lies and all but a few states passed laws allowing the law-abiding the right to carry concealed weapons. Her landmark Assault Weapons Ban was allowed to expire. Courts nearly everywhere have reasserted Constitutional Second Amendment rights.

Brady was clearly humiliated into her obvious forced retirement. she quickly dropped out of sight.

Brady's dream was forced registration of all firearms so government agents could locate and confiscate them later with the next laws she’d hope to champion.

Brady somehow convinced politicians that pre-purchase background investigations would insure criminals and mental defectives would be unable to obtain weapons. Another expensive failure!

Phony identification and purchasing fraud efforts routinely overcome the expensive and ineffective Brady check system. Of course the Brady checks created every kind of obstacle for the law-abiding especially those with similar names to convicted criminals.

Nobody wants to see armed criminal and mental defectives on our streets. They are and always will be out there. Well-trained and armed law-abiding people are the only way control cowardly criminals. There will never be enough cops to do this.

Sarah Brady ran a successful but deceptive scam on America that gave her a huge financial reward and sainthood among her gun rights hating disciples.

I will not mourn the loss of Sarah Brady. I do however mourn the loss of those who were murdered because they were enjoined by unconstitutional laws to defensive weapons.

Government must stop insuring that only violent criminals are armed.
 
They can have my guns when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers. Open carry is in the process of being passed in Texas. Yeehaw!

Open carry is an interesting and generally bad situation. Open carry puts people/officers in a defensive quicker to react mood. People get ansy when they see open carry and most police in my belief, as a former military police and military intelligence officer, are not trained well enough in that situation. Shit tends to happen more often in open carry than necessary. I like concealed carry for that reason. As I do not have an effect on others just by them seeing that I carry.
 
Open carry is an interesting and generally bad situation. Open carry puts people/officers in a defensive quicker to react mood. People get ansy when they see open carry and most police in my belief, as a former military police and military intelligence officer, are not trained well enough in that situation. Shit tends to happen more often in open carry than necessary. I like concealed carry for that reason. As I do not have an effect on others just by them seeing that I carry.
There are a lot of libertarians and Constitutionalists who refuse to register with the state for CCW permits on principle. Open carry represents their only legal option, as well as a means of protest. In VA I have to reveal my weapon when I walk into a restaurant that serves alcohol, as concealed carry is illegal there. Well, unless you are a cop or a judge, and then you can carry AND drink legally.
 
There are a lot of libertarians and Constitutionalists who refuse to register with the state for CCW permits on principle. Open carry represents their only legal option, as well as a means of protest. In VA I have to reveal my weapon when I walk into a restaurant that serves alcohol, as concealed carry is illegal there. Well, unless you are a cop or a judge, and then you can carry AND drink legally.

Yeah I feel ya. Same here with open carry. Although a lot of places will just ask you to leave due to being uncomfortable. Which is ubsurd. Be afraid if the criminals carrying, not the serviceman that is just a law abiding citizen who not only has the right to carry but also earned his freedom.
 
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