Gyno on hgh

[Lifting88]

2nd time i start a hgh cycle and the gyno on 1 nipple getting sore and bigger

Nolva doesn't help even 2x 0.5 mg caber and still the same

I read that hgh can bindt to the prolactin receptor without raise prolactin (extracellular prolactin receptor domain (PRL-R)

if this is true is there any thing i can do to fix this?

i really love the look hgh gave me

Im doing 3iu pre bed ed

I will order a bloodtest next week
Thanks

 

[BigTomJ]

Come back when you have bloodwork done off the ancillaries.

 

[Sector]

Not using an AI? just slamming nolvadex and caber?

 

[Lifting88]

Im at 300 test with 400 mast 200 npp
No ai

Im always little scared with ais at 300 test that it will nuked e2 compleet

 

[vaIdosta]

im on similar dosages and having major gyno issues on my first hgh cycle too. its definitely a thing

 

[Sector]

Im at 300 test with 400 mast 200 npp
No ai

Im always little scared with ais at 300 test that it will nuked e2 compleet

probably want to add an AI, especially if you have gyno symptoms.

Not sure why people fear taking an AI so much. One dosage wont crash your estrogen. Even if you do crash your estrogen, it rebounds in a week, or even days if you're on short esters or heavy aromatizing compounds. it's not the end of the world that some people make it out to be. Guess some people would rather get gyno than control estrogen though. I dont understand that logic personally...

 

[amazonas]

HGH will give gyno because of the high IGF1 levels. I am on test/primo and my e2 is in the lower range at all times and prolactin also low according to recent blood work, but whenever i add in HGH my nipples get gyno within a week. Every. Single. Time. And nolvadex doesn't do shit against it. First i had it in one nipple only, but now its in both nipples.

Im also doing 3iu pre bad like you and love the hgh look, but just cant get rid of this gyno unless i crash my e2 and feel like shit.

 

[juicebro]

probably want to add an AI, especially if you have gyno symptoms.

Not sure why people fear taking an AI so much. One dosage wont crash your estrogen. Even if you do crash your estrogen, it rebounds in a week, or even days if you're on short esters or heavy aromatizing compounds. it's not the end of the world that some people make it out to be. Guess some people would rather get gyno than control estrogen though. I dont understand that logic personally...

I don't think you have to have high estrogen to get gyno. That's why you can get gyno from finasteride. Lack of androgens. One way to prevent gyno is to crank up the androgens instead of crashing your estrogen or fixing the underlying cause.

 

[Sector]

I don't think you have to have high estrogen to get gyno. That's why you can get gyno from finasteride. Lack of androgens. One way to prevent gyno is to crank up the androgens instead of crashing your estrogen or fixing the underlying cause.

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Appreciate the chart! Good info!

 

[Lifting88]

I don't think you have to have high estrogen to get gyno. That's why you can get gyno from finasteride. Lack of androgens. One way to prevent gyno is to crank up the androgens instead of crashing your estrogen or fixing the underlying cause.

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So upp the mast?

 

[Lifting88]

Not using an AI? just slamming nolvadex and caber?

I only took caber for 1 week because i know it will nuked me prolactin to almost zero and i didn't had time to do bloodwork first

And 400 mast with 10 nolva ed is normally enough to block the e2 in breast tissue

E2 is also good i a bulk so im scared to lower is to many with ai use

 

[Lifting88]

HGH will give gyno because of the high IGF1 levels. I am on test/primo and my e2 is in the lower range at all times and prolactin also low according to recent blood work, but whenever i add in HGH my nipples get gyno within a week. Every. Single. Time. And nolvadex doesn't do shit against it. First i had it in one nipple only, but now its in both nipples.

Im also doing 3iu pre bad like you and love the hgh look, but just cant get rid of this gyno unless i crash my e2 and feel like shit.

So you stop the hgh?
Would be nice if there is something to block the prolactin receptor like nolva does to e2 receptor instead of caber that only lowers prolactin

 

[amazonas]

It's not prolactin issue, for me my prolactin is bottom of range. I keep the HGH in and just live with a little gyno. I dont know what to do about it...

And for me i have androgens enough already, even upping my Primo dose doesn't help.

 

[Lifting88]

What i read is that hgh can bind to the prolactin receptor and act like prolactin

Thats why lowering prolactin isn't helping to reduce it because its not real prolactin and even with caber/prami hgh still is present to bind to the receptor

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

im having the same problem, 2 weeks with only 2ui morning and bam gyno is growing
but my case is "different" im not using steroids for a while , but i start finasteride in december, and as expected it gave me a bit gyno( thats the side i feel the most with Fin) thats why i never stay on FIN very long

This time I decided to try taking fin for longer, starting with a very low dose, 1 or 2 times a week and very slowly the days of taking and dose were increased.

I was surprised because there was that small initial growth but it didn't get much worse, it stabilized for more than 4 months until now with HGH it suddenly came back. I'll to try to do bloodwork this Friday
I have ralox and caber on hand but I see that it might not do anything.
and i dont want to stop FIN or get on Test for now

FUCK GYNO

 

[AlexDavis43]

FUCK GYNO

surgery

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

surgery

Yes, I already went to a doctor last year, because I wanted to use fin, I already knew that the little gyno I had would grow, I was already referred to a few more doctors to have some feedback.
Steroids have never given me much gyno, it's due to the lack of androgenics and now HGH is also helping with the growth.
FUCK