primojuju
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Only one I think
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MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Halotestin doesn't shut you down.
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Juicedhead
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Brooo I never was on that board with gh15. I remember finding some of his posts when I would google search shit back in the day. Thats where I got my first gh, slin, igf1 protocol he wrote out a really detailed post with good info. I was always on the ar-r board back in the day if you remember that one. I think its crazy how much steve over complicates things. Like bro, just take gear you dont need to do all this crazy off the wall shit he likes to talk about. I know hes just thinking of things for content but he should also cover more then just gear. I mean shit bodybuildling is so much more than that. I know thats his thing but idk i dont think hes the expert a lot of people think he is. Just my opinion.
I really like him and he's genuinely my main source of info, i'm a member to his channel and i honestly like that he tries to protect new entry guys to steroids by convincing them to start lower than 500 test and Dbol. But, this goes for everyone in the field regardless if it's a steroid guru, training guru or diet guru..everyone has it's flaws and it's totally acceptable, no one knows it all. I'm ok with that. I personally don't like his point of view on how much money and how financially secure the average gymbros must be in order to do simple steroid blasts. He thinks everyone makes (or must makes) 200k a year to propose 100 different supplements and ancillaries to run along steroids, and "if you can't afford it then steroids are not for you". Hold on brother, with test having 30-40 bucks a vial you can do wonders for starters, to run a cycle between 500 and 1000mg of various anabolics you need way less than the actual necessary supplements we all use like protein, creatine, fish oil and some vitamins. If someone can't afford bayer testoviron, rimobolan and genotropin will go with UGL..old news. Currently i'm cruising with actual pharma test E bought from a pharmacy and it costs me 70 bucks for 10ml, running 3,5 ml per month the cost is 25 bucks.. I bought some pharma HCG (ovitrelle) and the cost is like double per month than the pharma test so for me it's not sustainable and i'm probably not gonna run HCG anymore unless i feel i'll need it. I will keep using the pharma test while cruise-trt and when i blast higher dosages i will switch to UGL test E + the other anabolics. I prefer keeping that money for a bloodworks than spending it in pharma stuff all year round. I just don't think it's sustainable to buy all these supplements, i ended up with 2 full drawers with various stuff but i think i'm gonna stick to the basics now on.
A steroid that doesn’t at least partially shut you down? That’s a new one. If you’re worried about shutdown just take milder compounds. Testosterone by itself doesn’t shut me down that bad, neither does masteron. They shrink but only by half of their normal size. You’d never notice it with the naked eye. Take some HCG and they are virtually the same off cycle.
"Fluoxymesterone ingestion was followed by a lowering of plasma testosterone within 24 h; levels remained significantly depressed (P < .001) throughout the treatment period. This lowering did not appear to be dose related (Fig. 2). Levels returned to normal after the drug was stopped. Individual subjects had testosterone levels as low as 13 ng/dl during the treatment period."
I don't think this supports their hypothesis that halo does not cause suppression. Unless they are only referring to suppression of spermatogenesis. I've been very unimpressed by that guy when I've actually bothered to read further into some of the things he has claimed.
Although, this bit from the same study was interesting:
"Despite lowering of endogenous testosterone levels, no subject complained of loss of libido...
Estrogen levels were not systematically altered by fluoxymesterone. Neither plasma LH (Fig. 3) nor plasma FSH (Fig. 4) levels were significantly altered by treatment with fluoxymesterone."
primojuju
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I agree with you, it was like pulling teeth to find the study that Taeians followers were referring to in regards to the original post. I am pretty sure its the one I linked but it's almost like they just take his word for it and say the study exits so it must be true. If there is another study that they were talking about I cant find it, or they wont share.
barbell001
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Looks like yet another kid that joined up to the Gym 2 weeks ago wants to talk about Halo because he's seen its one of the strongest steroids going. If you can't yet bench 315 without using gear then shut up and concentrate on going to the gym first.
AlexDavis43
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That's a pretty high bar man. Plenty of skinny guys can't get near 315 even with gear and good training/lifestyle. I couldn't before gear and that was after years of mixed powerlifting/bodybuilding.
I know very little about the guy Taeian (sp?) Clark aside from brief set of posts on another forum. This was some time ago, but what I recall was that he had difficulty providing legitimate evidence for some of his claims. He also seemed to be very easily upset when people pointed that out and questioned him. Honestly know very little of the content he's posted though.
The other guy (Steve) posted some non-sense about boldenone being the worst aas for kidney harm. He actually referenced it in the video at the top of this post as a "deep dive"
His supporting evidence was pathetic. So I'm immediately skeptical of his claims.As to their followers, unfortunately, the internet is full of guys that will almost blindly accept the word of those they see as authority figures. Perhaps there is some study supporting their claim, but I am inclined the suspect it is an animal study or something else that makes it barely applicable to us. Might be a bit too skeptical but that's kind of where I am with YouTube influencers and their outlandish claims.
BigTomJ
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Pulpfiction
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Halo had me go mental and sent my liver enzymes over board 1 and a half weeks before a show. Literally couldn’t make it on stage. Don’t get me wrong I was on tons of other gear but none of those combined together ever did what halo did when I added it in. Won’t touch it ever again, longevity over insanity
AlwaysHungry
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Was watching a video last night , Steve’s video Q&A. I saw this guy behaviour and in what tone did answer to questions…
He was really arrogant and narcissistic, and he isn’t something impressive bodybuilding wise. He also gave some advices who was really bad IME.
I’m starting to really dislike this guy behaviour and if you watch closely sometimes he’s all over the place with misinformation.
Also he wrote some books who get his informations and inspiration from gh15.org who is now bashing.
I’m pretty sure for it because I was taking screenshots back then to save useful informations and protocols , and a lot of them are identical to his books.
He praise himself because he’s 96kg at 150mg TRT (I’m pretty sure he’s on more as everyone in this industry talking about his dosages) . Like serious dude ? Also states that if he hop on 150mg Tren E will be 108kg…
Said the guy who stick in his ass 8ml castor oil , because only Bayer testoviron is legit. Used to think like that when I was a noob.
He was really arrogant and narcissistic, and he isn’t something impressive bodybuilding wise. He also gave some advices who was really bad IME.
I’m starting to really dislike this guy behaviour and if you watch closely sometimes he’s all over the place with misinformation.
Also he wrote some books who get his informations and inspiration from gh15.org who is now bashing.
I’m pretty sure for it because I was taking screenshots back then to save useful informations and protocols , and a lot of them are identical to his books.
He praise himself because he’s 96kg at 150mg TRT (I’m pretty sure he’s on more as everyone in this industry talking about his dosages) . Like serious dude ? Also states that if he hop on 150mg Tren E will be 108kg…
Said the guy who stick in his ass 8ml castor oil , because only Bayer testoviron is legit. Used to think like that when I was a noob.
Fattyone
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And what would these numbers be?
BigTomJ
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Relative to BW.
2x bw squat I think is pretty fair.
I'm thinking if you're 200lbs and actively lifting, a 400lb squat should be well within reach even as a natural.
My perspective might be skewed though because I was more involved on the powerlifting side.
