HAMMER TrenA LabMax

???? I know about Angus BS HPLC, but what does that have to do with this thread. It was just a LM test and nothing more.

Oh let me clarify Mercs meaning since he seems hesitant to do so.

As many know and Merc admitted a while back, he is a LM shill!

So what you say?

Well in an effort to improve LM sales Merc has been quoted as saying LM may be used to determine a samples concentration "if you know what your doing and have good eyes"!

In fact in one post Merc even suggested LM assays EXCEED the reliability of HPLC!

Fact is, every prudent mate should understand just how BIASED Merc's LABMAX posts are!
 
Jim unfortunately I have more faith in something I see by my own eyes that your phony HPLC analysis you are trying to sell to people.

you pretend to be smart but your chemistry knowledge is very limited.

you are just ignorant, I have pointed many times in discussions that labmax is pass or fail. I have never posted that labmax is for potency testing.

you just read 1 in 100 posts and try to be smart and you do not have clue what you are talking about.
 
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Jim just to prove how ignorant you are and expose your BS I took a time to go to labmax site to do some reading, since you do not have clue what your are talking about

and they state very clearly that it is not for potency testing.
 
I can't say for certain that I have seen @mercury actually state that LM can detect potency, but I can say for certain that the "perception" has been quite pervasive on this board that LM can. We just covered this not long ago in another test thread where comments like, "looks strong" were being irresponsibly batted about. Labmax serves a purpose- albeit a limited one. We must be careful not to assign properties to a test that it does not have. The result is just further misinformation and even disinformation of our brotherhood.
 
Jim unfortunately I have more faith in something I see by my own eyes that your phony HPLC analysis you are trying to sell to people.

you pretend to be smart but your chemistry knowledge is very limited.

you are just ignorant, I have pointed many times in discussions that labmax is pass or fail. I have never posted that labmax is for potency testing.

you just read 1 in 100 posts and try to be smart and you do not have clue what you are talking about.
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SELL ???

There is only one fella selling anything even remotely capable of testing AAS on this thread and it damn sure isn't me Merc. If you have evidence to the contrary POST IT!

Yea well la de da Merc you finally read your employers LM info.

I'll say it's about time because on several occasions, YOU rather than me, have clearly implied, this "LabMax" REAGENT TEST YOUR SELLING, is capable of concentration analysis.

When the truth is not one "scientist" from LM has posted ANY EVIDENCE this test can differentiate variations of polycyclic cholesterol rings, common to ALL AAS, from each other!

Regardless I'm glad your willing to join the scientific world Merc, but do try to distinguish, your bias for sales from science, fella.

Incidentally perhaps you should investigate the scientific definition of "potency" bc it has little to do with concentration!
 
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Well in an effort to improve LM sales Merc has been quoted as saying LM may be used to determine a samples concentration "if you know what your doing and have good eyes"!

Indeed he did.

you are just ignorant, I have pointed many times in discussions that labmax is pass or fail. I have never posted that labmax is for potency testing.


You sure about that, Mercury? Didn't think so. These are just a few of your statements claiming Labmax can be used to determine concentration, potency, purity, etc. Let me know if you need more. LMFAO


it can give you pretty good idea how potent the sample is but it took me a year of testing to figure it out.

It looks that we can test for potency with labmax too and it does work.

it will not give you detailed report like mass spec but at least some idea what you have

it makes sense if you have higher concentration of powder in oil then it has to give more intense glow.

you cannot give number but definitely there is difference with various samples, very low and high concentration.

I have noticed it with test enan and deca.

when you compare two anavar pills, you can see also the color difference.

This is common misunderstanding about labmax, they say in the instruction that it is not for purity testing but it can do more than you think.

look at the material, the higher deca concentration then in goes from light green to darker green under UV.
I have personally noticed over the last years I have been using this test that you can get more information than just simple pass or fail.

just look at the fluorescence only a little blue, it shows it is underdosed. I can see without GC/MS that it is shit.

of course that labmax can see if there is higher or lower concentration in this case, you have seen tests here so you have reference point.

you lowered the concentration of powder by adding to oil and it lost the brightness. this is how you see the potency.

I found an easy way to find concentration with just labmax kit just by accident but it works with powders only.
 
Oh crap CBS I would much rather Merc DENY my earlier comment that he has promoted LM for analyses other than it's intended purpose!

(Nonetheless if anyone doubted my post it's clear as day according to MERC LM can be used for BOTH potency AND concentration testing, LMAO)

It seems now Merc either took a crash course in reading, had a scientific epiphany, or realizes this LM skeptic knows considerably more about applied chemistry than he ever could have imagined, oops.

Damn ankle biters, lol.

PS your wasting time searching for evidence "I'm selling HPLC" analyses Merc, bc I have NOT accepted a dime or ANYTHING else as compensation, ZIPPO!

So just get accustomed to it, bc we don't all operate on a quid pro quo sales basis fella.
 
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SELL ???




I'll say it's about time because on several occasions, YOU rather than me, have clearly implied, this "LabMax" REAGENT TEST YOUR SELLING, is capable of concentration analysis.
When the truth is not one "scientist" from LM has posted ANY EVIDENCE this test can differentiate variations of polycyclic cholesterol rings, common to ALL AAS, from each other!
Regardless I'm glad your willing to join the scientific world Merc, but do try to distinguish, your bias for sales from science, fella.
Incidentally perhaps you should investigate the scientific definition of "potency" bc it has little to do with concentration!

Indeed he did.

You sure about that, Mercury? Didn't think so. These are just a few of your statements claiming Labmax can be used to determine concentration, potency, purity, etc. Let me know if you need more. LMFAO


Thank You.....to both you gentlemen. You provide a perspective that if we were without, we'd have been reduced to a much weaker group without the solid foundation you guys provide. The less intelligent and more abrasive delivery of info and experience that I and some others bring, wouldn't mean nearly as much as it does without you guys being here to give it back up. We have a well rounded group of members here. Who or what group and from what board can match up well against us? I challenge a group from any board. From our villains to myself, to you 2 all the way up the ladder to Dr S and Millard. A formidable group, indeed!
 
Dr Jim = CensoredBoardSucks

why you cannot use just one nick, I see you guys like some gay couple
 
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Indeed he did.




You sure about that, Mercury? Didn't think so. These are just a few of your statements claiming Labmax can be used to determine concentration, potency, purity, etc. Let me know if you need more. LMFAO

and what are you trying to prove in the nonsense except spamming the thread.

it has been known fact for a long time that there is more in the test than just simple fail and pass.

you spend all night sucking Jim dick and you still short of proving that I said that it is for potency testing.

do you understand potency ? it says exactly the number, where or when did I post that labmax can give you exact number.
 
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Jim I usually do not get involved in discussions like this.

But since you are making some stupid accusation that I am some sales agent and it is not true. I have job and career I do not need to be sales agent.

Let me say just one more thing,

fuck off stupid idiot once for all

It was not me attacking you for no reason first.
 
Jim I usually do not get involved in discussions like this.

But since you are making some stupid accusation that I am some sales agent and it is not true. I have job and career I do not need to be sales agent.

Let me say just one more thing,

fuck off stupid idiot once for all

It was not me attacking you for no reason first.


I have no stake in this fight beyond getting accurate info out to the board. From an outsider's perspective, merc does appear to be a strong proponent and perhaps even champion of Labmax. Whether or not he is somehow involved with the LM business I personally do not have enough evidence to judge. His familiarity with the product has certainly been of benefit to the board.

Mercury, if you believed that labmax could do things it was not intended for based on some data you were getting and it turned out to be wrong, you would not be the first theorist to experience this. I don't think you were deliberately trying to deceive the board with comments you made, because you felt you had some proof of your hypothesis and you may have gotten a little carried away with your findings. Now that we collectively can come to a consensus that these additional capabilities do not exist, just say, "I was wrong.", and be done with it.
 
I'm not tring to get in the middle of this. Believe me I'm not taking sides. I got used as a bunching bag myself on here yesterday. lol I just want it to be know, that I heard LM could possibly determine potency. This is not the case. If y'all will go look at the first post in this thread, y'all will see that I posted a really strong glowing LM. Believe me if it was as strong as the glow let off, I would not be able to take the dose I'm taking now. This is my first run with tren and I shouldn't be able to take 600 a wk. Before this cycle is over I will probably be taking 650-700 wk. Just my 2 cents. My strong glow did not mean that the product was strong.

Merc is a great asset to Meso just as Jim is.

Edit: Im not saying that the tren is not good by any means. I am getting stopped in the grocery store by random people asking me for work out advice. I am defiantly see good results, but I have only had 1 side effect and that was for one night. Maybe Im a lucky one that doesn't get sides. :)
 
I also want to caution you fellas bc HAMMER is a NEW LAB and was never vetted on Meso to my knowledge.

Similar scenarios (overwhelming enthusiasm followed by a con job) occurred with GETM and BIOLOGIC, both whom left a lot of mates empty handed!
 
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