Has anyone used Raloxifene for gyno with success? Any had gyno surgery?

[Nitrust]

Anyone used ralox for gyno, or had gyno surgery. I need insight. Any info is welcomed.

Here is a general background

So I have confirmed gyno via my general practitioner using a mammogram. Bloodwork was normal. My tt was 418, prolactin , progestrone, estradiol, fsh,lh were all in range.

However, I still have gyno. Duribg my first cycle i hsd itchy nips and completed pct.I did a shot about 5 months after my first cycle of tren, and decided to quit after the 1 shot. I wasn't ready but I didn't use any ai or pct since it was just 100mg of tren. This fucked my right nipple.

I have confirmed gyno, and I have a doc appt on the 29th. I will try to get with an endo to see about surgery, but I wanna know, who has used Raloxifene for gyno?

Please tell your story. I am very interested! Ralox and gyno stories, sorry ofy thread is general. I'm on my phone and the full history is very thourough

 

[Northern Nutrition]

There's an enormous amount of information on the intraweb supporting raloxifene reducing, and even reversing, gyno provided it has not become fibrous. Even a cursory search will produce many informative links.

 

[Nitrust]

Yea I have done the research, but it makes me feel better I guess to be able to talk with people that we have went through it

I realize I probably can fix this that's why I asked about surgery. Sorry if I am being redundant, but i.am just worried at this point

Places to get raloxifene, amounts used, just experience. Forgive me if I am being annoying

 

[Northern Nutrition]

I understand. Good luck, brother.

 

[Sworder]

I would like a picture of your right nipple please!

IDK how to not sound gay asking that...

 

[Nitrust]

You can't tell by looking at it at all. My nipple is ok looking but when you press on it you can feel the lump. I have small nipples anyways

 

[Sworder]

You can't tell by looking at it at all. My nipple is ok looking but when you press on it you can feel the lump. I have small nipples anyways

Then stop worrying about it!! I forgot the number but I think it is 30-50% of men have some form of gyno. It is only because you are in the AAS world that it is worrying/bothering you! I have a small amount glandular tissue as well but you can't see it at all.

 

[Nitrust]

It's hurts like hell!

 

[Sworder]

It's hurts like hell!

Did you try the ralox yet? That sounds like it is fresh if it is still hurting. How long has it been?

 

[Nitrust]

Been hurting and been there since April /may but it has gotten much worse here in the last two months maybe 3 months. I did 2 months of nolva and it backed off but then came back with a vengeance for no reason

 

[Sworder]

Been hurting and been there since April /may but it has gotten much worse here in the last two months maybe 3 months. I did 2 months of nolva and it backed off but then came back with a vengeance for no reason

Use an ai carefully maybe 0.5mg adex/week at the same time and keep going with the nolva or raloxifen. And hurry up before it settles ifit hasn't already.

 

[penche]

Sorry to hear man. I wonder if running caber as a precaution could've helped you avoid this..

It's unfortunate, however you can fix it with a surgeon. It may cost 2~3 good cycles though. Best of luck.

 

[shane cayless]

if it's new gyno then nolva or ralox can definitely help. Combining with an Ai is probally the way to go, but if the gyno is fibrous than surgery is the only option. I have had pubertal gyno since I was 14 years old which I'm finally getting surgery for in month. fingers crossed

 

[Nitrust]

Started Pharm grade nolva and USA pharm grade adex today

Gonna run the nolva at 40mg for wk 1 then 20mg for the next month

Adex .25mg Monday and Thursday

Gonna see if I can shrink this thing

Reevaluate the situation after a month and hope I don't crash my e2. Never used adex before

 

[Nitrust]

@Dr JIM am I going about this the right way?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

The danger of using an AI while not on cycle is that you risk crashing your E2 if your E2 is near or at baseline (prior to using AAS) Raloxifene or Tamoxifen would be my only choice based on your above blood work that returned "all in range".

My .02

 

[Nitrust]

Yea that's what I am worries about too. Do you think combining ralox and nolva would be a good idea?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Yea that's what I am worries about too. Do you think combining ralox and nolva would be a good idea?

No.

 

[jJjburton]

I have similar issue but had it since puberty. A node or bump under my nipple that I can feel. It doesn't extend past my nipple edges. Recently my e2 was high but doctor gave me AI. .5mg eeveryday. 100 level e2 but will go down soon enough. My prolactin is naturally high by 2 or 3 ng/ml if thats the measurment. My next bloodwork will show what happends next. If my Prolactin is still high going to get caber or something for it from doctor. I know how it feels to think how you are with wanting it to go away. But if it's not visible surgery isn't the best option right now. Idk if that helped but.

I suggest telling doctor not steroid use but natural and he will help...why not?

 

[Dr JIM]

Started Pharm grade nolva and USA pharm grade adex today

Gonna run the nolva at 40mg for wk 1 then 20mg for the next month

Adex .25mg Monday and Thursday

Gonna see if I can shrink this thing

Reevaluate the situation after a month and hope I don't crash my e2. Never used adex before

Is it surprising the notion AI use in males will "crash" ones E-2 level if your "not careful", are almost always derived from AAS forums rather than being literature based?

Its also not to surprising very few have posted evidence to support this assertion ESPECIALLY in BB using AI susceptible AAS.

The fact is AIs even at traditional doses only result in a 50-70% reduction of E-2 in otherwise normal adult males.

However let's supplement a moderate amount of TT, like 500mg/wk, (10 times the normal adult weekly secretion) and the task of "crashing E-2 becomes a relative non-sequitur.

So the next time someone parrots the statement "AIs crash E-2" without any qualifiers, have them post supportive labs.

Regardless your dose of Tamoxifen is GTG IMO. (40 mg QD for one week followed by 20 mg QD until your cease cycling)

Whether you need an AI as additional protection depends upon your dose of TT and aromatase activity.

If you choose to use Adex the dose can range bt 0.25 to 1mg QD.

Oh and even thinking about deviating from established therapies for gynecomastia is asking for trouble, especially from the outset.