HCG A MUST....?

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yes but it doesnt last, maybe 6 months

and a gallon of adex to keep estro in check. those doses are more in line with fertility protocols and fertility docs dont give a crap if a patient starts acting like a bitch or gets gyno

No one should start that high, just saying that’s the upper limit. I doubt anyone would act like a bitch tho even if their E is high. My guess is when E is high and T is low is when you may get some negative effects.
 
I've truly only run one cycle and balls didn't turn raisin-like that go around lol, hoping to keep it that way as I don't plan to run any absurd shit...
 
E2 sides more than likely

Nope, I gave it a go (test) about 4 weeks into my trt....Spiked it immediately. But I'm a lifer on trt so doesn't matter anymore [emoji6]
 
You obviously have not had high E2.

lol I have, but I haven’t bought into the “bro science” so I never felt any ill effects, to the contrary I usually get either more libido or my junk gets more sensitive. I’m sure gcm is a possibility but blaming moodiness on E is about the equivalent of blaming rage and violence on T.

Edit: I’m not saying high E doesn’t have any affect or you should let it stay extremely high, I’m just not buying into the idea that it will turn someone into a moody bitch just like how I don’t by into high T turning someone into a violent psycho.
 
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Why not? Not too expensive and the best part is it’s very easy to inject. I use my shoulders and it literally feels like nothing. Not mention your balls wont stop producing. No brainer imo. Just buy some sterile water to add in. Super easy.
 
Just curious while y'all are talking about hcg I've been on trt for 6 years doctor percribed he asked if I was done having kids at the time I was already have 2 now fast forward 6 years and the wife ready to have another been trying just not happen just curious am I done for got or is there something I can do to get things going again with out coming all the way off trt dose
 
Just curious while y'all are talking about hcg I've been on trt for 6 years doctor percribed he asked if I was done having kids at the time I was already have 2 now fast forward 6 years and the wife ready to have another been trying just not happen just curious am I done for got or is there something I can do to get things going again with out coming all the way off trt dose
start using hcg with your test, it will only help fertility. Theres a lot more to the whole equation when it comes to conception but its a start. The better docs prescribe at least small doses of hcg even if fertility isnt a concern for the positive mood benefits and libido.
 
lol I have, but I haven’t bought into the “bro science” so I never felt any ill effects, to the contrary I usually get either more libido or my junk gets more sensitive. I’m sure gcm is a possibility but blaming moodiness on E is about the equivalent of blaming rage and violence on T.

Edit: I’m not saying high E doesn’t have any affect or you should let it stay extremely high, I’m just not buying into the idea that it will turn someone into a moody bitch just like how I don’t by into high T turning someone into a violent psycho.
Steroid induced mania.
 
Evidence?
Sounds like bro science to me. :confused:

Yea and blaming every last bad thing on high E is sound science huh. Everything from acne to bp to moodiness. Apparently the excessive androgens don’t have any negative side effects other than occasional mania lol

Couldn’t find much on steroid induced mania that didn’t have to do with corticosteroids
 
Yea and blaming every last bad thing on high E is sound science huh. Everything from acne to bp to moodiness. Apparently the excessive androgens don’t have any negative side effects other than occasional mania lol

Couldn’t find much on steroid induced mania that didn’t have to do with corticosteroids
Where did I blame EVERTHING on E exactly? There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that high E2 in a man will make him a moody little bitch I.e. very emotional. Ofcourse, high T can also do the same.
Your twisting what I’m saying so just pipe down pal.
 
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