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HCG worth it?
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Smashformass
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When i am on hcg my libido is way higher and i deel better. But that can be plasebo too. Its mostly for natural production and fertility
HCG mimics LH which stimulates numerous pathways in the human body. If wanting to keep as much of the body functioning close to normal as can be would make HCG a benefit. For shorter term of purely cosmetic reasons then it may not. It can stimulate nerve reproduction, P450 pathway as well as the testicles for starters.
Jabroni_Meathead
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I started running 500iu of HCG three times a week.
My balls literally swelled up after the second shot. I shouted for my wife and went struting around my place naked because three years of TRT shrunk the hell out of them.
Within the first shot I got painful morning wood 2-3x a night around midnight and 2am but has since calmed down.
Two months later - I feel nothing more than having my big saggy balls back and being proud i can sit on them again.
My balls literally swelled up after the second shot. I shouted for my wife and went struting around my place naked because three years of TRT shrunk the hell out of them.
Within the first shot I got painful morning wood 2-3x a night around midnight and 2am but has since calmed down.
Two months later - I feel nothing more than having my big saggy balls back and being proud i can sit on them again.
Well done buddy! I believe you went a tad high though with that dosage, generally speaking with 750-1000 IU per week you'll be fine too for gaining balls size and get the other benefits from HCG. For fertility purposes yeah, you must go higher. Was it from driada or some other brand?
Jabroni_Meathead
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Driada - yes.
Fertility doses are above 1500iu EOD so i went between minimum proven doses of 250iu x2 /week. My balls not only shrunk but they damn near retracted all the way up. It took two months for them to drop again.
ThinkDeroid
Banned
I am cycling 5000 iu per 3-4 weeks and then 1 week off because of danger of receptor overload. After 5 years on TRT with HCG I noticed my balls are smaller nevertheless and I need to increase the dose. I can't find the study again, but it comes with a cost.
But I can't live without it. Without HCG I get a bit hard flaccid and feeling "small", with 2000-3000 iu/w my flaccid is big and balls are hanging low, with only 2x 500 everything tightens and it just doesnt feel right. I don't get how some guys can do it without, probably not a grower.
But I can't live without it. Without HCG I get a bit hard flaccid and feeling "small", with 2000-3000 iu/w my flaccid is big and balls are hanging low, with only 2x 500 everything tightens and it just doesnt feel right. I don't get how some guys can do it without, probably not a grower.
nightprowler7
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I already have kids so I don't see a reason to use HCG. My balls were small before I started TRT so I'm not missing out on much.
I had to stop hcg because it was causing me gyno after running it for years with no issue, and since then i've felt no libido or motivation for things, even though my e2 and other markers are in range. My emotions are somewhat dulled and i just feel like something is missing. I think hcg was doing much more than just keeping my balls from shrinking.
I plan to restart using it in 2 weeks and fix my gyno issues.
Previously i was doing 250 IU, 3 times a week.
I plan to restart using it in 2 weeks and fix my gyno issues.
Previously i was doing 250 IU, 3 times a week.
Interesting could be because without hcg you're low on certain neurosteroids. Definitely not the only one that needs hcg when on test to feel good.
I have a not very severe varicocele and HCG at 750 IU per week didn't do anything on the balls size, i used a UGL brand though. Now i switched to Merck Ovitrelle and started 1000 IU per week, i'll give it a try at this dose for 2 weeks and if nothing happen i'll go to 3 X 500 IU per week. After that if it still doesn't do anything i may plan a surgery because even if i want to do a PCT in the near future it will be impossible to make my balls start working again. In general i see many benefits (what other guys mention, i still haven't experienced any) but if someone tries and don't get any significant effects it would be waste of money, and it ain't cheap as it costs more than the Test i buy from a pharmacy! If you can get away with DHEA and pregnenolone then go for it as it's way cheaper. There are guys like Chase Irons for example who after many years of b&c and without HCG he gained back fertility just fine, and i'm sure there will be guys with running HCG on their cycles that when they decided to come off they had a pretty hard time regaining fertility and restoring HPTA.. So as it seems depends on individual.
ThinkDeroid
Banned
I feel the same, without HCG the TRT doesn't feel right.
What is the cause of the Gyno? High Estrogen or Prolactin? I read many times that people can't manage the "estrogen sides" of HCG with an AI and I believe this is due to the raising of Prolactin, which also leads to Gyno. So, probably Caber could be a solution.
Do you think this still works when on NPP? I mean for dick and balls. Because no matter how i dose my npp or test, i get some shrinkage while on it.
Jabroni_Meathead
Member
I am currently on 300 test and 220mg of NPP with 1500iuHCG a week. Balls are still huge.
How abot flaccid dick? no homo
Jabroni_Meathead
Member
NEVER had that problem on previous cycles of test/npp. I just started HCG over two months ago and my dick may be getting even harder with it.
ThinkDeroid
Banned
Never tried NPP.
You need to try to find a dosage for yourself. Just saying, in the beginning I did the 3x 500 iu /w and my balls felt bigger. Now 5 years later, its 3x 1000 iu /w to get to that size. It's a price to pay.
i just had blood work done yesterday, im waiting for results, i think you are right. by the way about the size of dick flaccid, on hcg mine is normal, but without hcg my dick feels smaller. much smaller. maybe poor sensitivity / blood supply to the area down there?
ThinkDeroid
Banned
It's the curse of being a grower. On TRT without HCG my dick feels worse than without TRT. I think for me being so long on TRT/HCG the effect of going from grower -> shower with HCG led me to not feeling right if I go back to normal. But as I said, it even feels "smaller" than without anything.
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