Help interpret Labmax

Nublet

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Hey all,
What would this mean-
Crushed tab appears to pass Var test (no winny) and doesn't show any red for Dbol.
The same compound turns
Vial A : Green ---> yellow ---> Brown over the course of 15 mins
Vial B : Yellow ---> Orange--->Red over the course of 15 mins

Superdrol?
Really underdosed Dbol? Why is there Red and brown in A+B?
Thanks much
 
post some pictures

if it passes anavar test then it is anavar, why do you use vials A and B ?

you don't watch color in vials A and B after 15 minutes, only the initial color counts

it is filler or traces of some shit which might causing some slow reaction in A and B

dbol turns red right away in A and B

anavar gives no reaction in A and B and supedrol gives no reaction in ana/win test vial

you have some supedrol mixed there if the initial color was as you describe
 
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Why is there Red and brown in A+B?

Maybe because this test does not work as advertised. There are multiple threads here that allude to this as well as an article by Bill Roberts.

If all you want is a reagent test for your gear there is a also thread here that offers a cheaper and likely more reliable alternative.
 
Maybe because this test does not work as advertised. There are multiple threads here that allude to this as well as an article by Bill Roberts.

If all you want is a reagent test for your gear there is a also thread here that offers a cheaper and likely more reliable alternative.

why do you talk about something you do not understand and spread misinformation.

he is asking for advice and you respond with BS

so called internet experts like Bill Roberts are many if this is his real name in the first place, he has no credibility, he admitted in his own words that he never used the test.
 
why do you talk about something you do not understand and spread misinformation.

he is asking for advice and you respond with BS

so called internet experts like Bill Roberts are many if this is his real name in the first place, he has no credibility, he admitted in his own words that he never used the test.

I understand quite well that it is you that have been spreading misinformation, good man. It is sad that you choose to now try to discredit me rather than relying on the facts to support your arguments. So be it.

Shall we go back and look at all of the capabilities you claimed the test had and all the "expert opinions" that you offered that we now know are false, even by your own admission? If Bill Roberts is a "so-called internet expert", what does that make you?

So who does have credibility in your opinion? Shall we get the opinions of some completely uninvolved Chemistry or Pharmacology Ph.D.s? That can be done. Or will you claim that they, too are trying to sell bunk gear and that Labmax is the only hope for humanity?

I offered the OP to do some research on what is being discussed about Labmax and a cheaper alternative to the test he was performing. All you offer is blind support of a "test" that is seeing it's validity shrink day-by-day as more information comes to light.
 
I offered the OP to do some research on what is being discussed about Labmax and a cheaper alternative to the test he was performing. All you offer is blind support of a "test" that is seeing it's validity shrink day-by-day as more information comes to light.

I do not see anything to support your claims, I have been using this test for a while.
It works fine exactly as described.

I can only say that you are just labmax hater for whatever the reason and want to discredit good test.

I start to believe that you protect or sell bunk gear and you do not want it tested or you are just stupid and got so far with your stupidity and you do not know how to get out now.
 
why do you talk about something you do not understand and spread misinformation.

he is asking for advice and you respond with BS

so called internet experts like Bill Roberts are many if this is his real name in the first place, he has no credibility, he admitted in his own words that he never used the test.
"So called experts on AAS" he actually is an expert. Why use Labmax when you can read what it "tests" obviously it's garbage.. You don't need hands on experience if you know what these kind of tests do. AND IT DOESN'T DO WHAT YOU WANT IT TO MR. I SELL LABMAX
 
sworden are you are idiot or retard ? I have already proved you that this guy Bill Roberts if this is his real name does not have clue about the test. he did not mention even once UV light which is most important part of the test.

he might be expert on ASS how to pin your ass but nothing else.

he admitted with his own words that he never used it.

to explain anything, you have to be beaten with baseball bat first because trying to expel anything to retard like you is pointless.
 
sworden are you are idiot or retard ? I have already proved you that this guy Bill Roberts if this is his real name does not have clue about the test.
Hahaha, you have proven that you are pushing Labmax to the worlds end. You want Labmax to be used.

Yes, I am an idiot and a retard as well. So can you please tell me, how does this test works?
What reagents are used and how accurate can it test? Different hormones and also different esters? What role does the carrier oil have in the test?

Why can't labmax test the hormone alone? Why must BB BA and a carrier be used?
 
Why can't labmax test the hormone alone? Why must BB BA and a carrier be used?

you proved again and again that you do not have clue about the test and talking nonsense.

I told you get educated first

it can test pure powders too, there a tons of examples for powder testing



I teach science in high school and I do have special cases like you but they drop out fast
 
you proved again and again that you do not have clue about the test and talking nonsense.
I told you get educated first
I am educated in what it all does, you seem to always avoid explaining in your own words what it does however.
it can test pure powders too, there a tons of examples for powder testing
lol sure but when you add oil it changes color, how does that make sense? Oh yeah, because labmax reacts to the carrier bB and BA too...

So in the end you don't know what is what and something else could be used in place to show the same result as the desired Color.

I teach science in high school and I do have special cases like you but they drop out fast
What reagent type testing do you use in High School? What's your degree in? What differences would adding additional carbons to an ester have for effect? The more carbons in a hormone+ester will result in what color change? Will it give off a higher spectrum with more ester or less? Is the esters what causes the largest change in visual spectrum or is it the hormone itself? How does the hormone affect the visual spectrum? Is it based off the bonds, ester weight? Amount of carbon molecules? Amount of Hydrogen molecules? Amount of oxygen molecules?

Please answer these questions for me.

Here is the article again for you so you can read it:

I have not used these test kits myself but from knowledge of analytical chemistry and information that is available about them, I can give you some further information.

These are colorimetric tests, where some rather general chemical reactions occur, such as reactions with conjugated double bonds, which are hardly unique to anabolic steroids let alone to any particular anabolic steroid. As between two or more test vials a number of different combinations of reactions can occur and to differing extents, different patterns of color can be produced.

Such testing is always what’s called presumptive rather than conclusive. It can give a reason to think a given substance may be present, or may not be present. It will never prove the point.

MMC International appears to be the company that actually produces the kit. They appear to be a legitimate supplier of various testing kits to law enforcement in Europe. However, this particular kit very clearly is marketed by them to steroid users not to government. Further the kit is not listed under the National Institute of Justice Standard 0604.01. This is inconsistent with it being used much if at all by law enforcement or Customs in the US. Now in and of itself that would not be a problem, but a person could easily get the idea from the brochure that this kit has government acceptance.(Mercury)

If anyone knows of evidence to the contrary regarding official use, I’d appreciate if they let MESO-Rx know.

Aside from the general fact that tests of this type are only ever presumptive, the color chart gives further reason to be doubtful. For most esterified steroids, they report the results only in oil solution. But for example with testosterone propionate as powder, there’s no color change for either Test A or Test B, buttestosterone propionate provided in oil solution is reported to give olive green for A and yellow for B. Why a different result than when supplied as powder?

The steroid is the same. That’s not the reason. Rather, the chemical properties of the particular carrier used must have provided the color change, for example by reaction with double bonds in fatty acids of the oil.

Another example would be the result with testosterone enanthate. There’s no chemical reason why in any colorimetric test testosterone enanthate would react differently than testosterone propionate. But here, they obtained a completely different color result than with the enanthate. This would be from the carrier being different.

Now what if the carrier used in your product was different than in the product they tested? Perhaps your supplier used ethyl oleate while their product happened to use, say, sesame oil. Or your supplier used different amounts of benzyl alcohol or benzyl benzoate than their product used.

The test might well then produce a different color pattern than what their chart says.

Until the company shows the test to be validated regardless of carrier, which I don’t think can happen for a colorimetric test, I would highly question it for UG oil preparations, as they can legitimately use varying carriers. However, a given pharmaceutical brand should perform consistently, though quite possibly differently from their chart.

It may be useful for powders, but they list results from very few powders.

For tablets, I’d be concerned about excipients affecting the outcome.
 
Are you guys going to pollute every test thread with this crap? Are you on some kind of mission to stop labmax use?
 
Are you guys going to pollute every test thread with this crap? Are you on some kind of mission to stop labmax use?

Yes, Labmax isn't giving accurate results. Whomever started pushing Labmax to test steroids for accuracy of the Hormone + ester was an idiot. It doesn't even show the concentration of the hormone.

If people are educated at least on how worthless Labmax is and they still want to use it go ahead.
 
If people are educated at least on how worthless Labmax is and they still want to use it go ahead.

Well, that's my point. We are already aware of your opinions from other threads. There's no reason to spread it to every test thread. I think all UGL products are too unsafe to use, but I don't go into the underground forum and spam every UGL thread.
 
Well, that's my point. We are already aware of your opinions from other threads. There's no reason to spread it to every test thread. I think all UGL products are too unsafe to use, but I don't go into the underground forum and spam every UGL thread.
You are aware, good. :)

Put me on ignore if you want.
 
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