Help with SARMS?!?!?!

bigrobbie

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I gotta break down and ask this....I've been looking into SARMS. I was thinking about using

a stack in conjunction with my PCT after my next cycle. Is this the wrong approach, and what is

a good combo I should consider, or should I stick with just one SARM during PCT? I know I need to do a bit more research and I will, but I would like any opinions you guys may have....:confused:
 
I have written on this before (use Search tool). SARMs act the same way on the HPTA as AAS. They suppress the HPTA. It makes absolutely no sense to use both at the same time. Whoever is suggesting this to you is a BOZO!

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I have written on this before (use Search tool). SARMs act the same way on the HPTA as AAS. They suppress the HPTA. It makes absolutely no sense to use both at the same time. Whoever is suggesting this to you is a BOZO!

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I was under the wrong impression. This is why I should have dug into the topic a bit more b-4

posting...I thought SARMS did not "shut" you down via HPTA...I will read your break down. :o
 
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This implies (to me as a lay person) that SARMS are non-suppressive...I may be reading it wrong, or it may just be bad info, but I have read a few places that they will not shut down HPTA...is that old info, or

just people not knowing what they are talking about? I guess what I'm asking is-Have you ever heard or read that they didn't shut you down??
 
Thanks alot Doc!!!

Thanks for what? For a completely misleading piece of information?!

The man obviously knows nothing about S-4. It is suppressive only when used in high doses like 50 mg+/day. In reality, it is a great drug for PCT. But you should test it on yourself. You must find an optimal dosage that prevents muscle/strength loss and doesn't interfere with testosterone recovery. Usually it is around or slightly below 50 mg/day.

In me, 35 mg/day is a minimum for PCT, but even 45-50 mg/day didn't slow down the recovery of my HPTA significantly.
 
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Thanks for what? For a completely misleading piece of information?!

The man obviously knows nothing about S-4. It is suppressive only when used in high doses like 50 mg+/day. In reality, it is a great drug for PCT. But you should test it on yourself. You must find an optimal dosage that prevents muscle/strength loss and doesn't interfere with testosterone recovery. Usually it is around or slightly below 50 mg/day.

In me, 35 mg/day is a minimum for PCT, but even 45-50 mg/day didn't slow down the recovery of my HPTA significantly.


You do not know sh**. It is as simple as that. In reality, in your mind! Another post by an AAS ASS. EOM
 
Thanks for what? For a completely misleading piece of information?!

The man obviously knows nothing about S-4. It is suppressive only when used in high doses like 50 mg+/day. In reality, it is a great drug for PCT. But you should test it on yourself. You must find an optimal dosage that prevents muscle/strength loss and doesn't interfere with testosterone recovery. Usually it is around or slightly below 50 mg/day.

In me, 35 mg/day is a minimum for PCT, but even 45-50 mg/day didn't slow down the recovery of my HPTA significantly.

I was thanking him for his take on SARMS. I am looking for different opinions on the topic. The

fact that you disagree reinforces the fact that I am correct in asking questions to go along with

my research. Keep em coming guys...this is obviously a topic worth debate! Thanks to all...
 
It needs to be kept in mind that there are situations where low dose anabolic steroid also will not be found to cause "significant" suppression in a study.

The fact that SARMS, at anabolically-ineffective doses, have been found in the literature to not exhibit statistically-significant suppression -- which does not mean no suppression -- does not mean that they don't cause it.

We could as well say that Dianabol causes no suppression, as I can point to a study showing it to be "non-suppressive" (or more accurately, statistically significant suppression was not found.)

And for that matter, I can find the above at a dosing of 50 mg/day, which is more anabolic than I expect is the case for the SARM doses studied.

But, of course, Dianabol is in fact suppressive, as I expect is the case with the SARMs as well.

You're not going to have the magic of activating the androgen receptor without getting the suppression that results from activating the androgen receptor.

I don't know of reason to believe that, analogously to the SERMs, there is an effect with the SARMs where they are active in muscle but not in the hypothalamus and pituitary.

It really has seemed to me that the term SARM (selective androgen receptor modulator) is simply a gimmick to make the drugs sound fundamentally different from anabolic steroids and thus to perhaps escape the stigma that society has placed on anabolic steroids, rather than being a matter of real pharmacology.

Synthetic anabolic steroids are "selective" too -- that is where the whole "anabolic/androgen ratio" thing, or ratio between activities at the levator ani of the rat vs the prostate, relative to testosterone -- comes in.

The fact that the SARMs do not have a steroid skeleton doesn't change anything pharmacologically, and doesn't magically give them non-suppressive yet anabolic properties.
 
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