HGH and Insulin Only, without AAS

[CaptainAll]

Can you use HGH + Insulin only to build substantial lean body mass/muscles without using AAS? I am not talking about competitive level bodybuilding, but for an average gym goer looking to bulk up and get bigger?

Assuming your training, nutrition and rest are all dialed in and for someone who is not willing to use AAS to avoid HPTA suppression.

 

[Slowww]

if you believe you can achieve!

 

[Liter O' Test]

hgh will not grow muscle on its own or with insulin
insulin would though

 

[CaptainAll]

hgh will not grow muscle on its own or with insulin
insulin would though

That is what I mean, to use HGH with insulin, high calories and good training.

I am at the point where I do not want to use AAS anymore. Just looking for a way to keep the lifestyle and gains, but to avoid using AAS and suppressing HPTA

 

[explodingHeart]

No. Even low dose (<10 iu) GH doesn't do much with gear.

The fuck is adding insulin going to do?

 

[Slowww]

No. Even low dose (<10 iu) GH doesn't do much with gear.

The fuck is adding insulin going to do?

Yeah for sure this OP has to be one of the most troll posters lmao

 

[Liter O' Test]

Yeah for sure this OP has to be one of the most troll posters lmao

this is my favorite post by him,
thats it guys, one study didn't use A.I so we can conclude millions of us bodybuilders are retarded and using it for no reason, that elevated estrogen actually doesn't cause side effects. who knew!

 

[Slowww]

this is my favorite post by him,
thats it guys, one study didn't use A.I so I guess us millions of bodybuilders are retarded and using it for no reason

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No way people with high estrogen get boners??? And people on steroids grow bigger ???? WOWzer who knew. I wonder if there were like other reasons to want to keep e2 from being super high? Mystery. Maybe acne? Maybe water? I have no clue

 

[Liter O' Test]

No way people with high estrogen get boners??? And people on steroids grow bigger ???? WOWzer who knew. I wonder if there were like other reasons to want to keep e2 from being super high? Mystery. Maybe acne? Maybe water? I have no clue

the study didn't mention acne, water retention or even gynecomastia , so I guess it was all in our heads!

 

[Slowww]

the study didn't mention acne, water retention or even gynecomastia , so I guess it was all in our heads!

Body builders are stupid meat heads so we didn’t notice

 

[Sampei]

No. Even low dose (<10 iu) GH doesn't do much with gear.

The fuck is adding insulin going to do?

What would be a dose of HGH that does something then? 20IU? Can you even take 10IU or more without insulin?