High aromatizer cycle design help

If you are prone to real and imaginary blood clots that you think should be treated with surfing and aspirin, then I think fair advice would be to not take hormones of any kind.
If you are prone to real and imaginary blood clots that you think should be treated with surfing and aspirin, then I think fair advice would be to not take hormones of any kind.
I should probably also mention that I started using a cpap since. I think that actually had a large impact on my cardiovascular health.
 
Nattokincase may be a better option if you think it fits your needs
incredible! So although there’s a need for further human studies, the benefits seem way more comprehensive than aspirin and niacin alone. Seems like it’s just as effective as aspirin for blood thinning but maybe not as powerful as niacin for lipid management. The fact that it also lowers fibrin, inflammation, improves endothelial function and lowers blood pressure is amazing. Thank you for sharing this man
 
No I wish I did but I was in Central America for 6 months. I’m curious with these next labs to see where my e2 is without them.

I get that but would it be worst than running higher testosterone with an ai?
this is the point i was trying to make. It’s hard to quantify “worse” in a compound you don’t have experience with, but if started on a very low dose and bloods are taken, it would only make more sense to me to add in a dht when you need to elevate aas mg total anyways, rather than elevating test then adding in an AI that is only there to fix an issue created by test amount, rather than raise mg total through a different ped.


And to echo everyone else’s point, get bloods anyways and make sure your e2 is in a good spot on trt ahead of adding anything or changing any doses.
 
incredible! So although there’s a need for further human studies, the benefits seem way more comprehensive than aspirin and niacin alone. Seems like it’s just as effective as aspirin for blood thinning but maybe not as powerful as niacin for lipid management. The fact that it also lowers fibrin, inflammation, improves endothelial function and lowers blood pressure is amazing. Thank you for sharing this man
It's herbal and I'm always skeptical of supplementing herbal in place of medical but it does show promise to replace a baby aspirin daily dose, along with other benefits not including blood thinning. My father has cvd and issues. I did relay this message to his well known cvd doctor over looking him. Personally I've been taking it for about 3 years. Ill try to remember to post back his medical take on it. He did not know about enough to give me an answer.... his words last week when I went along for a check up.

Trying to be more cautious in how I word things. I'm just throwing out experience and personal research.
 
It's herbal and I'm always skeptical of supplementing herbal in place of medical but it does show promise to replace a baby aspirin daily dose, along with other benefits not including blood thinning. My father has cvd and issues. I did relay this message to his well known cvd doctor over looking him. Personally I've been taking it for about 3 years. Ill try to remember to post back his medical take on it. He did not know about enough to give me an answer.... his words last week when I went along for a check up.

Trying to be more cautious in how I word things. I'm just throwing out experience and personal research.
Totally get that, thanks for opening the door so I can do further research. I would be interested in seeing my bloods on 150mg test with all the lifestyle changes I’ve made +aspirin/niacin compared to the same but with only NK. Only way to know I guess is how I respond to it.
 
Anecdotal data points incoming.

I'm naturally low SHBG and heavy converter. TRT Doc wanted to put me on an AI, I decided to try adding a low dose of primo to my injections. The following tests as 12 weeks apart. TRT dose unchanged, 80mg every 3.5 days.

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After was adding 50mg primo every 3.5 days:

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Additionally saw about a 30% jump in free test. I've since backed down the primo to 40mg every 3.5 days.
 
Anecdotal data points incoming.

I'm naturally low SHBG and heavy converter. TRT Doc wanted to put me on an AI, I decided to try adding a low dose of primo to my injections. The following tests as 12 weeks apart. TRT dose unchanged, 80mg every 3.5 days.

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After was adding 50mg primo every 3.5 days:

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Additionally saw about a 30% jump in free test. I've since backed down the primo to 40mg every 3.5 days.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing. I’ll do the same with this weeks bloods and then in several weeks of adding primo. I didn’t even think about this but I guess another benefit of doing this would also be not having to inject so frequently. What dose of primo did you go with?
 
Awesome. Thanks for sharing. I’ll do the same with this weeks bloods and then in several weeks of adding primo. I didn’t even think about this but I guess another benefit of doing this would also be not having to inject so frequently. What dose of primo did you go with?
Initially did 100mg/week, dosed 50mg every 3.5 days. I've since backed it down to 80mg/week @ 40mg every 3.5 days. Was starting to notice joint pain when doing bicep work. Would definitely not start at the 1:1 ratio I've seen floated in a few threads here, that would undoubtedly crash E2 for many people.
 
It's herbal and I'm always skeptical of supplementing herbal in place of medical but it does show promise to replace a baby aspirin daily dose, along with other benefits not including blood thinning. My father has cvd and issues. I did relay this message to his well known cvd doctor over looking him. Personally I've been taking it for about 3 years. Ill try to remember to post back his medical take on it. He did not know about enough to give me an answer.... his words last week when I went along for a check up.

Trying to be more cautious in how I word things. I'm just throwing out experience and personal research.

You must take atleast 10,000fu nattokinase on an empty stomach. That's the dose where the magic happens and it will bust clots, and it will likely save your life. My favorite brand is Arthur Andrew Nattovenia.

If you use nattokinase along with some aspirin, that's your best insurance policy, and you don't have to worry much about blood clots.
 
My goal moving forward is to initially start with 200mg test/ 150mg primo. My next cycle I’ll do the same but try mast to see how I respond. Then titrate up both and see how high I can get my test by playing with the ratio. Maybe I need higher primo, maybe I can keep it around 1:1. I’ll get bloods around 5-8 weeks in and make sure to document here. I’ll also be using telmasartin and continue using daily niacin. I’m considering proviron as well but don’t have any experience with it so any advice is welcome.
You should consider adding something like Nebivolol eventually. Primo raises blood pressure for a lot of people, me included. Telmisartan on its own won't likely be enough to reduce primo induced high blood pressure.

To your original question, I am also sensitive and a high aromatizer, and primo works for me. It solves the problem, almost entirely. You can run 1:1 ratios or you can go higher on the primo. It becomes a "feel" thing.

I would suggest you still have some arimidex on hand to use occasionally, if you need it. I still use arimidex occasionally even with primo, because it shrinks my face and sometimes I need that.
 
You must take atleast 10,000fu nattokinase on an empty stomach. That's the dose where the magic happens and it will bust clots, and it will likely save your life. My favorite brand is Arthur Andrew Nattovenia.

If you use nattokinase along with some aspirin, that's your best insurance policy, and you don't have to worry much about blood clots.
Do you have a link referring to the 10k iu dose?
 
You should consider adding something like Nebivolol eventually. Primo raises blood pressure for a lot of people, me included. Telmisartan on its own won't likely be enough to reduce primo induced high blood pressure.

To your original question, I am also sensitive and a high aromatizer, and primo works for me. It solves the problem, almost entirely. You can run 1:1 ratios or you can go higher on the primo. It becomes a "feel" thing.

I would suggest you still have some arimidex on hand to use occasionally, if you need it. I still use arimidex occasionally even with primo, because it shrinks my face and sometimes I need that.
Really helpful. Thank you. I like the idea of starting there and then expirementing with how I feel and of course getting regular bloods. Gonna give NK a go at that dose and see what my blood work looks like with it added. Hopefully my labs come back next week and everything looks good.
 
Vaya, aquí se hacen muchas suposiciones sobre mí. Volé a Centroamérica hace varios meses después de recibir una IA y cuando bajé del avión noté un dolor en la vena del tobillo que también se convirtió en un hematoma, así que sí, diría que era un miedo justificado.

Después de eso, bajé mi dosis de trt de 200 mg a 150 mg, comencé a tomar glutamato de calcio, aspirina y cialis a diario y la sensación y los hematomas desaparecieron. También comencé a respirar mejor una vez que salí de la IA. Esa es toda mi propia evidencia y la de marea, algo que nunca desacreditaré en otra persona.
los IA producen sofocos,ansiedad,dolores de cabeza y así mil.
¡El respiraculo es ansiedad!
300 de máster y 50 de primo te cubren de la mierda.aunque el E2 sigue ahí.
 
Mi objetivo en el futuro es comenzar inicialmente con 200 mg de prueba/150 mg de primo. En el próximo ciclo haré lo mismo, pero intentaré ver cómo respondo. Luego valore ambos y vea qué tan alto puedo obtener mi prueba jugando con la proporción. Tal vez necesite un primo mayor, tal vez pueda mantenerlo alrededor de 1:1. Recibiré muestras de sangre entre 5 y 8 semanas después y me aseguraré de documentarlas aquí. También usaré telmasartin y seguiré usando niacina a diario. También estoy considerando Proviron, pero no tengo experiencia con él, por lo que cualquier consejo es bienvenido.
Para esa mierda no te hace falta ningún IA.Solo come bien y calla.
proviron mantendrá tu pene arriba a 75 MG.Sin efecto secundario.
 
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