UncleBuns
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Your posts are pretty confusing to read. If your free T is higher than you would like for TRT then lower your dose.
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No shit mane I’m writing from work so I don’t do formatting that well either way I wasn’t complaining, shit I’m happy with having high results I was just curious as the free was high n the shbg was relatively too and there’s nothing online that said it was even probable so I came here to ask.Your posts are pretty confusing to read. If your free T is higher than you would like for TRT then lower your dose.
Nice avatar btwYour posts are pretty confusing to read. If your free T is higher than you would like for TRT then lower your dose.
To clarify for the reader. Based on the blood work shared and an injection frequency of once weekly, the dosing here is not TRT. It is mild androgen abuse. But everybody has to do their thing.
Thing is though my free test is higher than the range (like a lot higher) but my shbg is also high but not out of range, from everything I read online etc… it seems the 2 are not something that goes that way
1. Bro, chill, stop tweaking ... Your post's are all over the place : )
2. Your FT is higher because your TT is almost 1200 ngdl. Why would you think your FT can't be high with normal SHBG? If you are a natty and have a TT of 1000+ your SHBG will be high, probably 70+ and thus your free androgen index will be lower. But if you inject exogenous T towards a 1200 ngdl (through?), your SHBG will be lower, as is in your case at 30 or what was it. So naturally, if your TT is at 1200 and SHBG at 30, your free androgen index will be higher. I don't understand what's so complex about this ...
Yeah great clarification. His SHBG is not high. Alot of people see a 65 or 75 percentile value and think ...oh no it is high.1. Bro, chill, stop tweaking ... Your post's are all over the place : )
2. Your FT is higher because your TT is almost 1200 ngdl. Why would you think your FT can't be high with normal SHBG? If you are a natty and have a TT of 1000+ your SHBG will be high, probably 70+ and thus your free androgen index will be lower. But if you inject exogenous T towards a 1200 ngdl (through?), your SHBG will be lower, as is in your case at 30 or what was it. So naturally, if your TT is at 1200 and SHBG at 30, your free androgen index will be higher. I don't understand what's so complex about this ...
Yeah great clarification. His SHBG is not high. Alot of people see a 65 or 75 percentile value and think ...oh no it is high.
I wish I could wave a magic wand and help dispel the mythology surrounding TT/FT/SHBG at least when it comes to serum blood testing.
Well technically it was TRT until today when I start my blast, 100/120mg x week split into 2 shots is far from AAS abuse (although I could understand your argument as in I wasn’t hypogonadal when I started, just had borderline symptoms) but when did those doses start to qualify as androgen abuse ahah most people here laugh at that amount even for TRT purposes.To clarify for the reader. Based on the blood work shared and an injection frequency of once weekly, the dosing here is not TRT. It is mild androgen abuse. But everybody has to do their thing.
Best wishes @ChevChelios
I ain’t tweakin just bored at work ahah sorry if it comes off that way though1. Bro, chill, stop tweaking ... Your post's are all over the place : )
2. Your FT is higher because your TT is almost 1200 ngdl. Why would you think your FT can't be high with normal SHBG? If you are a natty and have a TT of 1000+ your SHBG will be high, probably 70+ and thus your free androgen index will be lower. But if you inject exogenous T towards a 1200 ngdl (through?), your SHBG will be lower, as is in your case at 30 or what was it. So naturally, if your TT is at 1200 and SHBG at 30, your free androgen index will be higher. I don't understand what's so complex about this ...
Word good to know cos I don’t want it to be too high or too low so I’m happy it’s where it should beIf I wasn't clear enough, your SHBG is not high, it's normal. It's where you want it to be. A high shbg would be 60, 70 ...
You should definitely dispel that myth as most people seem to think what I did earlier on n spread misinformation, tbh you could start with the cesspool that is Reddit n YouTube ahah but I’m definitely going to tell all my homies about this as they too seem to be under false impressionsRare or practically non existent yeah ...
What exactly are you thinking about here?
Thanks for sharing you are doing every ~3.5D. As per the table I shared that would put your peak at 1.4x and mean at 1.2x your trough approximately.Well technically it was TRT until today when I start my blast, 100/120mg x week split into 2 shots is far from AAS abuse
On TRT I have high range free T and high range SHBG. I feel best when my SHBG is high range.No shit mane I’m writing from work so I don’t do formatting that well either way I wasn’t complaining, shit I’m happy with having high results I was just curious as the free was high n the shbg was relatively too and there’s nothing online that said it was even probable so I came here to ask.
I’m gonna get my TRT/cruise dose pulled up hopefully (definitely don’t want to lower it) n either way I’m gonna be doing a blast so I will be pulling it up a lot I just wanted to check a couple things first and ask people that knew more than I do
Thanks for sharing you are doing every ~3.5D. As per the table I shared that would put your peak at 1.4x and mean at 1.2x your trough approximately.
Is the blood work you shared after at least 4 weeks of twice weekly dosing?
Assuming you shared trough values...
TT,mean = 1340 ng/dl
FT,mean = 22 ng/dl
TT,peak = 1570 ng/dl
FT,peak = 25 ng/dl
Calculated FT peak and mean even higher. But let's roll with your ED FT value.
Definitely higher than almost any eugonadal person walking around with that SHBG. Not judging, just keeping it real so TRT folks understand that many times they measure their blood values at trough, whereas the published references ranges for TT/FT are peak values.
Yeah it was after more than 4 weeks and at trough, I thought most people knew that you did bloods right before your next pin day? Or is that not common knowledge?Thanks for sharing you are doing every ~3.5D. As per the table I shared that would put your peak at 1.4x and mean at 1.2x your trough approximately.
Is the blood work you shared after at least 4 weeks of twice weekly dosing?
Assuming you shared trough values...
TT,mean = 1340 ng/dl
FT,mean = 22 ng/dl
TT,peak = 1570 ng/dl
FT,peak = 25 ng/dl
Calculated FT peak and mean even higher. But let's roll with your ED FT value.
Definitely higher than almost any eugonadal person walking around with that SHBG. Not judging, just keeping it real so TRT folks understand that many times they measure their blood values at trough, whereas the published references ranges for TT/FT are peak values.
Word that makes sense with what ik bout shbg I was just confused as there’s so many people treating it like it’s some sort of gains stealer when in reality it has very important functionsOn TRT I have high range free T and high range SHBG. I feel best when my SHBG is high range.
Bro why tf you makin assumptions like that? I was just bored at work n in a good mood shit mane, online idgaf if sometimes I write too much or too little it’s a forum.Well, that's more than 2 x, and at peak it's 3 x, the average natty TT. @ChevChelios this what readalot meant by abuse. TRT would put you around 700 ngdl.
Also @ChevChelios, are you adhd and on medication? Regarding using aas in your mental state, you should know that the impulsivity and most aspects of mental stability will get worse for you on cycle as even now you sound pretty unhinged. I know you don't care but using aas is the last thing which is recommend to users with your neurobiological profile.
Bro why tf you makin assumptions like that? I was just bored at work n in a good mood shit mane, online idgaf if sometimes I write too much or too little it’s a forum.
And yes I understand what he meant now, wasn’t clear earlier on as I was distracted, I’m far from unhinged and I guess I will just make sure to be more on point when I write shit down cos I tend to not check tf I write but I don’t want to be giving the wrong impressions as I’m lots of things n was a huge asshole back in the day but I ain’t some mental case or whatever you assume based off something I wrote while working ahah
I know, in fact I was commenting on you alluding to me being ‘unstable’ or whatever, not commenting on adhd as that’s something I’m pretty sure I am too (although I don’t take meds for it n don’t have issues concentrating on most things I do use em sometimes for work if stuff is 12hrs long and boring).Being adhd does not mean you are a "mental case". I'm also adhd. It does however mean that aas will make you more unstable, more impulsive then somebody who is more neurotypical.
How old are you?