Hip (Ventrogluteal) Site For IM Injection

Back in my baseball days, I will have to say that most of the "big-time" guys utilized the VG spot for their injections. The amounts of drugs these guys injected and ingested on a weekly basis was just absurd. 1000mg of 3 different types of test EW (prop, acetate, susp), 400mg-600mg of Tren A EW, 1mg - 2.5mg MethylTren ED, 50-75mg Dbol ED, 800mg-1000mg Boldenone (Acetate/Prop mix) EW, 100mg Proviron ED, 600mg-800mg Mast EW.

Yes, that's an example of 1 cycle (although I think he alternated the Mast and EQ, not at the same time. But still, 1000mg test + 600mg Tren + 1000mg EQ = 2,600mg of short ester AAS injected each week. Most of these were dosed around 150mg/ml (Some guys had a test mixture that was 75mg susp, 75mg acetate, and 50mg prop per ml = 200mg/ml). A lot of these guys just rotated VG sites EOD and threw in a dorsoglute shot if the VG was still sore.

Remember when Alex Rodriguez missed the first part of the season because he had to have a "cyst" removed from his hip? Haha, well now you know that it was actually scar tissue in the ventro-glute area that had built up from injecting too much AAS into that area. I always knew that's what the "cyst" was, but at the time I didn't know that it was called the "ventro-glute" area. The media should have been smart enough to put 2 and 2 together and figure out the spot he got the cyst in is a very common spot for injections. Maybe I should be a journalist, haha...ya right![:o)]

All I am trying to say here is that the amounts of AAS you guys inject would imagine being fine in that area. But, when you go crazy and only utilize that spot, bad things are bound to happen.

If you don't believe me on the ridiculous dosages, just google some pics of Sosa, McGwire, Bonds, Galarraga, Canseco, etc....when they are close to or in their 40s! It's nearly impossible to stay that big and lean naturally while making it through a 162 game season at 40.
 
If you don't believe me on the ridiculous dosages, just google some pics of Sosa, McGwire, Bonds, Galarraga, Canseco, etc....when they are close to or in their 40s! It's nearly impossible to stay that big and lean naturally while making it through a 162 game season at 40.

I always laugh when they come out with new restrictions on steroid use in sports. Its part of the game, part of the system, these guys know what to use, and how to use it. Its pratically impossible for a lot of these guys to make it through a season without being on something.
 
Awesome bro, glad it went easy!!!!!!!!!

ya went easy that day, today tho, my leg is in serious pain lmao. it is very easy to shoot tho so once my muscle here gets used to the needle it will be my main shot site i am thinking. so easy to do on its own.
 
ya went easy that day, today tho, my leg is in serious pain lmao. it is very easy to shoot tho so once my muscle here gets used to the needle it will be my main shot site i am thinking. so easy to do on its own.

Were you shooting prop? It's got to be less painful than pinning the thigh area. I would think that unless you are making "side to side" agility movements all day long, the VG has got to be the least painful injection site.

Fly, keep us updated on how long the pain lasts and on your second injection. It's interesting sometimes to see how the same muscle on the opposite side of the body reacts. For example, I pin both delts regularly. The right one is MONEY, no problems ever. The left one seems to be a bit more painful and swells sometimes. I wonder if this has to do with technique or the actual muscle?
 
Were you shooting prop? It's got to be less painful than pinning the thigh area. I would think that unless you are making "side to side" agility movements all day long, the VG has got to be the least painful injection site.

Fly, keep us updated on how long the pain lasts and on your second injection. It's interesting sometimes to see how the same muscle on the opposite side of the body reacts. For example, I pin both delts regularly. The right one is MONEY, no problems ever. The left one seems to be a bit more painful and swells sometimes. I wonder if this has to do with technique or the actual muscle?

I have exactly the opposite problem. Currently i am alternating delts as well (one shot per week to each delt) and i can inject my left delt with no problems and no pain and i am all cool about it. When i have to inject my right delt my heart starts racing, i shake major ass and always butcher my self trying to aspirate. I am not going to inject there again. I just can't stand and eventually i believe i am going to hurt myself.
 
You all should also remember. And you know I am a fan of at least (4) inj sites REGARDLESS OF ESTER TYPE. The VG will saturate with just one 2ml pin. So thats good for once every 4 weeks as far as I am concerned for even release/distribution. You can get 2-3 good areas on each glute and quad. MIX it up...:)

It might be a good ONLY location for TRT users doing 120mgs tcyp week on one injection per week. But I still would never advocate less than 2 pins per week (mon & thurs, etc...)

ya went easy that day, today tho, my leg is in serious pain lmao. it is very easy to shoot tho so once my muscle here gets used to the needle it will be my main shot site i am thinking. so easy to do on its own.
 
Hey Everyone

We've gotten a lot of questions in here about the ventrogluteal injection site, so hopefully this will help clear things up a bit for everyone. I wish the pictures were better, but its frick'n hard as hell to take pictures while injecting. So if anyone has any questions let me know. Hopefully they are easy to follow and understand. I'll also attach a pdf if people have questions on injection technique.

http://home.earthlink.net/~miche1/intrainj.pdf

VG over view:

1. Find the
trochanter. It is the knobby top portion of the long bone in your upper leg (femur). It is about the size of a golf ball.

2. Find the anterior iliac crest. The nurse will help you find the bone landmarks.

3. Place the palm of your hand over the trochanter. Point the first or index finger toward the anterior iliac crest. Spread the second or middle finger toward the back, making a 'V'. The thumb should always be pointed toward the front of the leg. Always use the index finger and middle finger to make the 'V'.

4. Give the injection between the knuckles on your index and middle fingers.

5. Stretch the skin tight.

6. Hold the syringe like a pencil or dart. Insert the needle at a right angle to the skin (90 degree).

7. You may give up to 3 ml. (cc) of fluid in this site.



its weird, but its def a great spot once you get used to it
 
I'll go into a bit of detail, since other readers may be new to the spot like I was 30 minutes ago.

Just did it 30 minutes ago. Left side. I was a little nervous to not miss the proper spot, but I just put all the weight on the right leg, and pulled the left leg up to the side till the muscle bulged out.

I then circled the center of that bulge with a pen. Then relaxed leg again and went at it with a 25g 1"

Going in, I noticed it was a little harder than other spots, but I think that is because I was "tense" and flexing it on accident. As it went in further, I felt a sort of "pop" like it went thru a barrier into the muscle itself. (at least I hope so) and at that point it started hurting a bit.

When the oil started flowing in, It was more painful than any other shot I have ever done. A lot of pressure and I was looking forward to finishing. I have very low body fat, and am wondering if I went thru the muscle on accident.. (Like I said, I only used a 1" pin :confused:)

The benefits however is that it doesn't hurt now, and sitting down doesn't put pressure on the area. Plus its a new area to really slow down that scar tissue build up in the glutes.

I tend to do a lot of sub-q shots on the oblique areas as well. I used to like Pec injects, and I have done, lats, traps, long/short heads of tricep, quads.. but after a muscle tear a while back, I can't bring myself to inject into a functional muscle. Seems too damaging for me.


I really forgot a big problem I had with Ventro Injections at first.

If when doing the injection you are standing, then you have to be careful to "rest" the weight of your leg on the floor, many times when I was injecting I would be trying to keep the muscle "loose" and I would be holding the weight of my leg off the floor, this would flex my injection spot and cause the exact problems which this poster describes. ALSO, you want to be careful about resting all your weight on this leg because that will also cause the muscle to flex.

Maybe everyone doesn't have this problem due to differences in posture, I suppose we all move in our own unique little way which means we all incorporate slightly different muscle groups even when performing the same actions.
 
I updated these pics, they are in my profile, if anyone has any questions let me know

I tried to upload them here, but the system wouldn't let me, kept getting an error
 
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