Hooks for deadlifting?

[AnTabolic73]

i dunno, bro. In a deficit and with only Test Cyp at 200 mg/wk, my strength steadily increased while doing GVT.

When I say you lose strength I dont mean you're not progressing through the gvt.

Let's say you bench 315 max. When you start your gvt you bench you'll probably have to drop bench to like 160 ish to be able to get through the 10x10. And you'll be able to progress nicely through that.

But were I noticed my strength went down was when I went back to trying to lift heavy after stopping my gvt (specifically through a cut). After going through gvt for let's say 4 weeks. You maybe be able to bench 180 for 10x10, but try and get that 315 for one.

That's were I believe the strength loss comes from. From not working the that 80 to 90% 1rm range.

I think gvt is great, for growing in a bulk. To change up a stagnant routine. But not so great during a deficit.

 

[Worf]

I’ve used hooks and hated them.

Try the Scheik straps that have Velcro cuffs vs just the looped; absolutely love them.

I have these and they work great

Also maybe try some gym chalk

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Happy ending to this story. i picked up a pair of standard lifting straps. Didn't want to get too fancy, just in case i couldn't work with them, for whatever reason.

They've made a world of difference. i didn't think a simple strap would take so much of the weight off my grip, but they've done far more than i had ever expected.

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. i'll be rereading the thread when it comes time for an upgrade.

 

[Sniggles]

I have never seen anybody actually using the hooks. Honestly, my concern with the hooks is not being able to easily drop the weight of something goes wrong. I started using lifting straps awhile back, Definitely makes it easier on my grip when lifting heavy.

 

[LeoTC]

Switch grip if you can't hold the bar, hook if you want to maintain a double over grip.

Yeah, hook grip can be uncomfortable. Tape your thumbs and do it anyway.

Save straps for explosive movements in the 85-100%+ range like Pendlay rows.

If you're grip is really lacking, do your pull-ups off the frame of the cables or rack. Thick and square will steel will catch it up pretty quick.

And loaded carries.

Better to actually address the issue than band-aid it...

JMO though.

 

[jhb]

I've used both, just personal preference, I used them to do heavy shrugs, my grip would give out before my traps would and they worked great for that, but it caused my grip (hand strength) to drastically reduce and my hands got weak, I now just use liquid chalk, and I love it!

 

[cfreetenor]

i want something where once my grip gives way, the weight on that side (typically left) will still be supported safety, so that i don't have to set the weight down and i can just bust out that last rep or two.

i do at home workouts, on the second floor, with hardwood under my feet. Dropping the weight isn't something i can get away with.

Yeah idk how long you’ve been doing that but layman outsider perspective here take a couple hours and set up a platform at ground level maybe?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Yeah idk how long you’ve been doing that but layman outsider perspective here take a couple hours and set up a platform at ground level maybe?

Not a bad idea, but i have things straightened out for the time being, i feel. i start without the straps, then use them only when needed. Haven't run into any problem yet, no near accidents like prior to the straps, knock on wood.

 

[Fattest_animal]

@MisterSuperGod

Pin directly into your fingers for maximum grip strength gainz

 

[T-Bagger]

Something like these, @MisterSuperGod?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

View attachment 112669 Something like these, @MisterSuperGod?

Yes, that was my initial thought. When i created this thread, i had never used anything to assist my grip before and my (incorrect) thinking of the way straps work led me to think that hooks would be the ideal solution to my problem.

Picked up a pair of standard straps and they have made all the difference in the world for me.

 

[MindlessWork]

View attachment 112669 Something like these, @MisterSuperGod?

I saw those as well and wonder how good those are.

 

[johntt44]

View attachment 112669 Something like these, @MisterSuperGod?

I had ones like that but they weren't hooks. They were rubber you wrapped around the bar to grip.I think I gave them to someone.

 

[maxyshot]

My hands are my hooks,I'm on 75kg 8 reps sumo style due to short armspan,my arms are over an inch shorter than my height I found out that the hard way when I went boxing.

 

[balco]

Yes, that was my initial thought. When i created this thread, i had never used anything to assist my grip before and my (incorrect) thinking of the way straps work led me to think that hooks would be the ideal solution to my problem.

Picked up a pair of standard straps and they have made all the difference in the world for me.

IMO straps are great for training because you can continue deadlifting even when you've exhausted your hands. I will admit it's easy to end up dependent on straps rather than strengthening your grip. I always use the analogy that grip in deadlifting is similar to shifting in car racing, it's a huge part of your success.


Edit: Last thing, you can say you deadlift 700lbs if you use straps, that's why it's so important to strengthen your grip.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

IMO straps are great for training because you can continue deadlifting even when you've exhausted your hands. I will admit it's easy to end up dependent on straps rather than strengthening your grip. I always use the analogy that grip in deadlifting is similar to shifting in car racing, it's a huge part of your success.


Edit: Last thing, you can say you deadlift 700lbs if you use straps, that's why it's so important to strengthen your grip.

Agreed. It's so easy to over use them. Makes such a night and day difference, but i only rely on them when i have no other choice.

 

[mp46]

I figured out how to use the straps today, kinda, for rack pulls. After all the pulling movements leading up to them my grip is already shot and cant make it through the second set of rack pulls. Straps made what felt like too much weigh on the pull feel easy, I'd rather use straps for heavy pulls and lift heavier than limit myself to less weight because I can't hold onto the bar.

 

[balco]

Agreed. It's so easy to over use them. Makes such a night and day difference, but i only rely on them when i have no other choice.

Exactly, every couple months I have to check myself because I always end up relying on my straps rather than working on my grip. Either way they are a great tool, and I wouldn't want to be with out them.

If slipping is the issue vs hand strength chalk is a must have if your gym allows. Once I started using chalk I realized how great it is, I even use it for curls and squats sometimes because my hands are so sweaty.

 

[maxyshot]

is 75kg 8 reps sumo style dead lifts not bad?

 

[Test_Subject]

is 75kg 8 reps sumo style dead lifts not bad?

Not if you're 12.