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How I Managed to Get SCAMMED As the Seller

XKawN said:
To me it doesnt have much to do with him. Has more to do with the guy that's willing to send someone off to jail and compromise his other customers. Fuck the thief, he stole a few bucks. What an ass. The dangerous one and the one without limits is the snitch threatening to call the police because his drugs got stole.
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Did you even bother readin what he wrote? Threatening to call the cops? Lol. You got an imagination.
 
Marcus said:
I understand the semantics your talking about but in principle I think posting personal info on a public Internet forum is just plain wrong.

I think you mentioned that your home board is private, probably with a multitude of very trusted people to you and others' personally. I can somewhat see the advantage here with minimal damage to the individual.

As I said, it could be advantageous for TP to let some trusted, long-time members here know (@mands @biggerben69 you, sorry if I'm forgetting some others) the guys information to pass along to other board's trusted members to let some of the more long-time sources know he owes money to TP, and not to do business with him.

It's not a perfect solution by any means, but that's like buying some stuff from your corner dealer, come to find out he shorted you or sold you some bunk shit, and then sending a letter to the police with all the dealers info. Just wrong in my book.

We may have to agree to disagree on this one though
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Posting someone's info on a forum for no reason is wrong. When it's been shown with concrete evidence that that person is a scammer and also has ignored multiple opportunities to fix the problem then he's forfeited his rights to be dealt with as everyone else.

The other board is not a private board. Anyone and every is welcomed to join it. I know many people here are members there. My stance wouldn't have changed whether it's a private forum or not. Once you scam and don't make it right after being given several opportunities then you give up your rights IMO.

I won't put words in Mand's and BigBen's mouths but I can already tell you what they will say and it's the same thing I'm saying. How do I know this? Bc they know about the person I'm talking about spends his time and efforts to hunt down the scammers and make people whole. A guy is like Liam Neeson in Taken lol. He digs up names and aliases, current and past addresses, names of spouses, schools the person has went to, he pulls up current and past criminal info. The guy was even able to get a fucking copy of one scammer's indictment. They know who I'm talking about and BigBen has helped him out and I think Mands has as well.

There are hundreds of sources out there. Taking away his opportunity to shop with 5-10 who have honor and morals really doesn't hurt the scammer much.

I am not sayin the first step is posting the info so don't think that. I'm saying you must first prove with concrete evidence the scamming took place and you must give the person or source sufficient time and opportunity to make right. I don't know if that's the case here specifically.

We can agree to disagree. I'll still send you a naked Christmas card :)
 
Docd187123 said:
How do I know this? Bc they know about the person I'm talking about spends his time and efforts to hunt down the scammers and make people whole. A guy is like Liam Neeson in Taken lol. He digs up names and aliases, current and past addresses, names of spouses, schools the person has went to, he pulls up current and past criminal info. The guy was even able to get a fucking copy of one scammer's indictment. They know who I'm talking about and BigBen has helped him out and I think Mands has as well
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This right here, I am 500% down with... this is logical to me in this game.

Docd187123 said:
I'll still send you a naked Christmas card :)
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THIS I am very excited about. I will gladly accept all naked photos you send me
 
Docd187123 said:
Posting someone's info on a forum for no reason is wrong. When it's been shown with concrete evidence that that person is a scammer and also has ignored multiple opportunities to fix the problem then he's forfeited his rights to be dealt with as everyone else.

The other board is not a private board. Anyone and every is welcomed to join it. I know many people here are members there. My stance wouldn't have changed whether it's a private forum or not. Once you scam and don't make it right after being given several opportunities then you give up your rights IMO.

I won't put words in Mand's and BigBen's mouths but I can already tell you what they will say and it's the same thing I'm saying. How do I know this? Bc they know about the person I'm talking about spends his time and efforts to hunt down the scammers and make people whole. A guy is like Liam Neeson in Taken lol. He digs up names and aliases, current and past addresses, names of spouses, schools the person has went to, he pulls up current and past criminal info. The guy was even able to get a fucking copy of one scammer's indictment. They know who I'm talking about and BigBen has helped him out and I think Mands has as well.

There are hundreds of sources out there. Taking away his opportunity to shop with 5-10 who have honor and morals really doesn't hurt the scammer much.

I am not sayin the first step is posting the info so don't think that. I'm saying you must first prove with concrete evidence the scamming took place and you must give the person or source sufficient time and opportunity to make right. I don't know if that's the case here specifically.

We can agree to disagree. I'll still send you a naked Christmas card :)
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All above here stated is true. I agree 100%. Except the Christmas card part :)

mands
 
Docd187123 said:
Posting someone's info on a forum for no reason is wrong. When it's been shown with concrete evidence that that person is a scammer and also has ignored multiple opportunities to fix the problem then he's forfeited his rights to be dealt with as everyone else.

The other board is not a private board. Anyone and every is welcomed to join it. I know many people here are members there. My stance wouldn't have changed whether it's a private forum or not. Once you scam and don't make it right after being given several opportunities then you give up your rights IMO.

I won't put words in Mand's and BigBen's mouths but I can already tell you what they will say and it's the same thing I'm saying. How do I know this? Bc they know about the person I'm talking about spends his time and efforts to hunt down the scammers and make people whole. A guy is like Liam Neeson in Taken lol. He digs up names and aliases, current and past addresses, names of spouses, schools the person has went to, he pulls up current and past criminal info. The guy was even able to get a fucking copy of one scammer's indictment. They know who I'm talking about and BigBen has helped him out and I think Mands has as well.

There are hundreds of sources out there. Taking away his opportunity to shop with 5-10 who have honor and morals really doesn't hurt the scammer much.

I am not sayin the first step is posting the info so don't think that. I'm saying you must first prove with concrete evidence the scamming took place and you must give the person or source sufficient time and opportunity to make right. I don't know if that's the case here specifically.

We can agree to disagree. I'll still send you a naked Christmas card :)
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Yep. Doc is talking about regs. He's pulled all my info including an indictment, Discovery, PSI, and my "J & C" to prove I'm trustworthy(up to that moment, anyway).
Same as when I hit a yard. Paperwork has to be sent in 1 or 2 pieces of paper at a time mixed in with other mail/papers because inmates in the feds are not allowed to carry their paperwork. So many cooperating witnesses/informants/snitches that at the lower Security facilities the snitches/child molesters etc have to co-exist. Its the absolute worst vibe I've ever been around.
My last little tour had my finishing up at Terminal Island, CA. A medium low facility that has more than half the inmate population being sex offenders/child molesters. More of them than us. Nobody trusts anyone when they first get there. You get interrogated and given the rundown. Only solid White people are allowed in the TV room. It took about 3 weeks before I could get all relevant paperwork in to be reviewed before I was given my spot in that TV room.
Then you get to know who's who. Those that are peeking around the corner or that have their chair outside the room trying to catch a little TV we know have issues. Gotta be careful who you talk to or share a meal with cuz guys that are no good will try and gain status by being seen chopping it with a solid guy. Politics are a lot more confusing when there isn't another bunk available and a chomo is moving in above you. The rep for the sex offenders talks with the white rep and its agreed that as soon as another bed opens up on the sex offender side your bunky will be moving.
You can, of course, just smash the guy out and get ur own private room in the SHU. If you're concerned about how things look or if you just refuse to live with and tolerate a piece of shit that option is always there. I don't miss that shit at all. I hate it.
There I go all off topic again. I'm not sure what is going on in this particular situation, but I give my proxy to @Docd187123 if there was gonna be a vote. He knows where I stand on this stuff.
 
Docd187123 said:
Posting someone's info on a forum for no reason is wrong. When it's been shown with concrete evidence that that person is a scammer and also has ignored multiple opportunities to fix the problem then he's forfeited his rights to be dealt with as everyone else.

The other board is not a private board. Anyone and every is welcomed to join it. I know many people here are members there. My stance wouldn't have changed whether it's a private forum or not. Once you scam and don't make it right after being given several opportunities then you give up your rights IMO.

I won't put words in Mand's and BigBen's mouths but I can already tell you what they will say and it's the same thing I'm saying. How do I know this? Bc they know about the person I'm talking about spends his time and efforts to hunt down the scammers and make people whole. A guy is like Liam Neeson in Taken lol. He digs up names and aliases, current and past addresses, names of spouses, schools the person has went to, he pulls up current and past criminal info. The guy was even able to get a fucking copy of one scammer's indictment. They know who I'm talking about and BigBen has helped him out and I think Mands has as well.

There are hundreds of sources out there. Taking away his opportunity to shop with 5-10 who have honor and morals really doesn't hurt the scammer much.

I am not sayin the first step is posting the info so don't think that. I'm saying you must first prove with concrete evidence the scamming took place and you must give the person or source sufficient time and opportunity to make right. I don't know if that's the case here specifically.

We can agree to disagree. I'll still send you a naked Christmas card :)
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So you feel like the guy in question is a out and out scammer? Not some dude that is now needing to make a situation right, that looks like a mistake on both sides from the emails.
A real scammer has intent. This guy looks like a dude that got 2 packages and needs to pay for both.

Truthful, on other similar situations, the source usually negotiates, some type of a price break on the second package, because of the mess up. Not threaten the guy.

And as for just writing Return to Sender,(as op mentioned in another post) that can be the worst thing for some sources. It's harder to come up with good clean return addresses, then most anything else, that is, in the domestic market.

Mrhat
 
I hope that the guy does the right thing. I do know that scammers shouldn't be viewed in the same manner as solid members I don't know the best way to handle it . It would be great to have some type retribution against these POS after all its the solid members that end up paying for these types of losses in the long run.
 
Mrhat39 said:
So you feel like the guy in question is a out and out scammer? Not some dude that is now needing to make a situation right, that looks like a mistake on both sides from the emails.
A real scammer has intent. This guy looks like a dude that got 2 packages and needs to pay for both.

Truthful, on other similar situations, the source usually negotiates, some type of a price break on the second package, because of the mess up. Not threaten the guy.

And as for just writing Return to Sender,(as op mentioned in another post) that can be the worst thing for some sources. It's harder to come up with good clean return addresses, then most anything else, that is, in the domestic market.

Mrhat
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If you read all my posts in this thread you'll see I never said the person in question was a scammer. You'll see where I also said there has to be concrete evidence AND multiple opportunities given to the person to make the situation right before taking that step. we don't have all the info so I have yet to pass judgement on that person. I am speaking in generalities.
 
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Docd187123 said:
Posting someone's info on a forum for no reason is wrong. When it's been shown with concrete evidence that that person is a scammer and also has ignored multiple opportunities to fix the problem then he's forfeited his rights to be dealt with as everyone else.

The other board is not a private board. Anyone and every is welcomed to join it. I know many people here are members there. My stance wouldn't have changed whether it's a private forum or not. Once you scam and don't make it right after being given several opportunities then you give up your rights IMO.

I won't put words in Mand's and BigBen's mouths but I can already tell you what they will say and it's the same thing I'm saying. How do I know this? Bc they know about the person I'm talking about spends his time and efforts to hunt down the scammers and make people whole. A guy is like Liam Neeson in Taken lol. He digs up names and aliases, current and past addresses, names of spouses, schools the person has went to, he pulls up current and past criminal info. The guy was even able to get a fucking copy of one scammer's indictment. They know who I'm talking about and BigBen has helped him out and I think Mands has as well.

There are hundreds of sources out there. Taking away his opportunity to shop with 5-10 who have honor and morals really doesn't hurt the scammer much.

I am not sayin the first step is posting the info so don't think that. I'm saying you must first prove with concrete evidence the scamming took place and you must give the person or source sufficient time and opportunity to make right. I don't know if that's the case here specifically.

We can agree to disagree. I'll still send you a naked Christmas card :)
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While my opinion on this board doesn't mean shit, I agree with you doc! If the scammer is given ample time to fix the situation and doesn't, crucify that fucking thief!
 
Docd187123 said:
Using that same line of logic, the buyer is buying an illegal drug on the Internet on a public forum that's indexed on google in such a way as to make it as visible as possible. The buyer should expect to be burned and take losses from the source and not do what they can to be made whole.



The website is called Thinksteroids.com. They can come here anytime they're bored of busting speeders, make an account, and nail whomever they want. All the information posted here, everything posted here, is visible for LE to see



When you signed up to make an account on here you endangered yourself and put yourself in a situation where you can be busted.

You must be clairvoyant bc the source NEVER once said he was going to give it to LE.
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Some of us are fine with walking the yard with snitches. I am not.
 
Docd187123 said:
If you read all my posts in this thread you'll see I never said the person in question was a scammer. You'll see where I also said there has to be concrete evidence AND multiple opportunities given to the person to make the situation right before taking that step. we don't have all the info so I have yet to pass judgement on that person. I am speaking in generalities.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I have seen times that extreme situation called for somones info to be posted. But that would seems to be very premature just point.

Like I said, I think the op is losing a lot more than just money at this point.
He's losing the trust of members, for going for "post personal info" first, instead of waiting and using it as a last resort.

Mrhat
 
Mrhat39 said:
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I have seen times that extreme situation called for somones info to be posted. But that would seems to be very premature just point.

Like I said, I think the op is losing a lot more than just money at this point.
He's losing the trust of members, for going for "post personal info" first, instead of waiting and using it as a last resort.

Mrhat
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Without a doubt it should never be a first resort. Only the last.
 
I don't like how some people are givin op crap for reshipping without proof.

I mean I think it was kind of cool that he reshipped in good faith. Seizure letters take sometimes more than a month to get to you.
 
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