How much does timing matter with hgh?

[LeeroyMatinta]

Hey guys,
I’ve been running HGH and was wondering how much timing really matters. Sometimes I pin at 1am, but other times I pin at 3 AM, 12pm, 2am etc.

Will this inconsistency affect effectiveness? Would I see better results sticking to a fixed time every day?

Appreciate any insights!

 

[Ateam2023]

Hey guys,
I’ve been running HGH and was wondering how much timing really matters. Sometimes I pin at 1am, but other times I pin at 3 AM, 12pm, 2am etc.

Will this inconsistency affect effectiveness? Would I see better results sticking to a fixed time every day?

Appreciate any insights!

Imho , as long as its taken Away from carbs , as long as you get it in,, Taking before bed mimics natural nocturnal surge possibly enhancing bioavailability, reducing protein catabolism, may also help manage insulin sensitivity, morning doses specific goals like fat loss as it compliments fasting states, but may lead to higher serum insulin levels, split dosing if going over 4 ius or around workouts can balance fat loss, muscle gain, and recovery, I take it at least 2-3 hours after any carb intake and split my 5 iu dose 2 ius a.m and 3 ius p.m. and have decent results ,, ymmv

 

[LeeroyMatinta]

Imho , as long as its taken Away from carbs , as long as you get it in,, Taking before bed mimics natural nocturnal surge possibly enhancing bioavailability, reducing protein catabolism, may also help manage insulin sensitivity, morning doses specific goals like fat loss as it compliments fasting states, but may lead to higher serum insulin levels, split dosing if going over 4 ius or around workouts can balance fat loss, muscle gain, and recovery, I take it at least 2-3 hours after any carb intake and split my 5 iu dose 2 ius a.m and 3 ius p.m. and have decent results ,, ymmv

I always take it before bed but I got to bed at different times. Mostly 1-2am, but sometimes 12pm or 3am.

I got t1d so I think in my case I shouldn‘t have to worry if I take it away from carbs or not right? Sometimes if I eat a high carb meal before bed I inject like 15iu insulin along hgh.

 

[Ateam2023]

I always take it before bed but I got to bed at different times. Mostly 1-2am, but sometimes 12pm or 3am.

I got t1d so I think in my case I shouldn‘t have to worry if I take it away from carbs or not right? Sometimes if I eat a high carb meal before bed I inject like 15iu insulin along hgh.

with insulin , i am not versed enough to give advice etc, Thats a whole new realm to me,,

 

[DinoBB76]

take your full dose (5-10-15-20-25-30 unit that you have to take) all pre bed

 

[Dunkirk]

Imho , as long as its taken Away from carbs , as long as you get it in,, Taking before bed mimics natural nocturnal surge possibly enhancing bioavailability, reducing protein catabolism, may also help manage insulin sensitivity, morning doses specific goals like fat loss as it compliments fasting states, but may lead to higher serum insulin levels, split dosing if going over 4 ius or around workouts can balance fat loss, muscle gain, and recovery, I take it at least 2-3 hours after any carb intake and split my 5 iu dose 2 ius a.m and 3 ius p.m. and have decent results ,, ymmv

If taken 2-3 hours after carb intake, how long before workout 30min-1hr? I'd like to take pre-workout but it seems a very strict window.

 

[Ateam2023]

If taken 2-3 hours after carb intake, how long before workout 30min-1hr? I'd like to take pre-workout but it seems a very strict window.

i take my morning dose completely fasted then do my cardio then have a high protein meal lower carbs so im not sure of your strict window , my evening dose is at 2100 hours and i have my last low carb meal at 1630 ish so thats my timing ,,

 

[Dunkirk]

i take my morning dose completely fasted then do my cardio then have a high protein meal lower carbs so im not sure of your strict window , my evening dose is at 2100 hours and i have my last low carb meal at 1630 ish so thats my timing ,,

Thanks for the explanation, I work out in the afternoon, so I'm trying to figure out how to squeeze it in as a pre-workout. Doesn't look like it's an option, for me at least.

If taken in the am like you mentioned does it still help with fat loose if my strength training is in the afternoon? So I'll take at 8am then cardio after. 5-6 pm is when I go to the gym. The fat loss benefit seems to be be more dominant as a pre from what I've read.

 

[Ateam2023]

Thanks for the explanation, I work out in the afternoon, so I'm trying to figure out how to squeeze it in as a pre-workout. Doesn't look like it's an option, for me at least.

If taken in the am like you mentioned does it still help with fat loose if my strength training is in the afternoon? So I'll take at 8am then cardio after. 5-6 pm is when I go to the gym. The fat loss benefit seems to be be more dominant as a pre from what I've read.

its gonna aid fat loss as long as your diet and everything else is dialed in , i have no idea how well it works for someone else thats to generalized of a question, Type2 wrote a very good article abouy hgh& fat lipolysis , its a sticky thread around here, thats a good read about the subject,,

 

[AlexDavis43]

with insulin , i am not versed enough to give advice etc, Thats a whole new realm to me,,

I think you meant "with T1D" (not "with insulin"), and good call. Plenty of bodybuilders take insulin & GH, and I think it's the T1D that adds an extra level of complexity.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Hey guys,
I’ve been running HGH and was wondering how much timing really matters. Sometimes I pin at 1am, but other times I pin at 3 AM, 12pm, 2am etc.

Will this inconsistency affect effectiveness? Would I see better results sticking to a fixed time every day?

Appreciate any insights!

It's minutiae. Total dose > dose timing or dosing around meals or carbs etc.

I've seen some complicated protocols including GH use vs fasted cardio, meal timing, etc., and just don't think it really matters in the long term. hGH is a long-game.

Since you have T1D, I'd be more mindful of blood glucose changes (CGM?) to see if dose timing affects you personally.

 

[LeeroyMatinta]

It's minutiae. Total dose > dose timing or dosing around meals or carbs etc.

I've seen some complicated protocols including GH use vs fasted cardio, meal timing, etc., and just don't think it really matters in the long term. hGH is a long-game.

Since you have T1D, I'd be more mindful of blood glucose changes (CGM?) to see if dose timing affects you personally.

Yeah, I just inject before going to bed. I never go to bed at the same time, mostly late like 1-3am, rarely earlier at 12pm.

Blood sugar is fine, not much insulin resistance as long as I dont eat too many carbs.

 

[RaddishPork]

I think for the average working gym bro as long as you take it, that's what matters the most. The time of day is not going to have a big difference unless you're an extremely high level lifter with an intense PED / Diet protocol in place. I personally think taking it before bed has the same if not more benefits than in the morning for me.

The reason being that i usually don't eat directly before bed, and that's when i'm entering the longest fast of the day (6-8 hours for sleep). I also get great sleep from it. and then if I don't start eating until mid morning, i've had the GH at work for up to 9 hours fasted. Might not be as impactful as taking it before a cardio session, but our metabolism is still at work while we sleep, wake up, get ready, walk around the office, etc.

I *think* it takes about 2 hours to peak so even a morning lifter is gonna have to take it at 3am or 4am to take advantage of the peak. Not a chance in hell I'm getting up that early.

If someone is a high level athlete and gets paid for it, or if someone just has the time and patience, then it would be worth it to do multiple doses timed around meals, lifts, sleep, etc. I think for 99% of us as long as you're taking it consistently then you're not going to see a difference in the mirror between an 8am or 8pm dose.

PS- I am new ish to the use of HGH. So this isn't a hill I'm willing to die on. if there's proven research showing that one method is better than the other, I'll gladly yield to it. But I haven't seen a difference at all other than I sleep very well with PM usage.

 

[Pulpfiction]

I take mine first thing when I wake up in the am. Have a coffee with no carbs and then I train and do cardio, so I don’t eat for 4-5 hours after I take mine. I would do it at night because that seems more effective but it messes with my sleep bad so morning it is.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Consistency first. And for most all before bed 60-90m after last meal (or all immediately upon waking prior to cardio where you won’t encounter carbs) is the easiest and the most easily adhered to is typically the best.

Multiple doses and mid day timing introduces a ton of complexity, the need for insulin and very stringent meal timing.

 

[LeeroyMatinta]

Consistency first. And for most all before bed 60-90m after last meal (or all immediately upon waking prior to cardio where you won’t encounter carbs) is the easiest and the most easily adhered to is typically the best.

Multiple doses and mid day timing introduces a ton of complexity, the need for insulin and very stringent meal timing.

Is the reason you guys take it away from carbs to avoid blood sugar problems or because insulin spikes blunt hgh‘s effects?
I already have t1d so dont really need to worry about blood sugar, but I wonder if maybe insulin spikes blunt hgh‘s actions as I mostly inject high dose insulin along hgh at the same time.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Is the reason you guys take it away from carbs to avoid blood sugar problems or because insulin spikes blunt hgh‘s effects?
I already have t1d so dont really need to worry about blood sugar, but I wonder if maybe insulin spikes blunt hgh‘s actions as I mostly inject high dose insulin along hgh at the same time.

Indeed, for insulin sensitivity reasons. GH and insulin work very well together, they’re just not meant to coexist and work naturally together. Hence the exogenous slin use. Other reason for it would be managing insulin sensitivity/beta cell fatigue.

My normal protocol around carbs would be
- GH
- 30m later take insulin
- 15-30m later eat pre meal
- go train
- drink an Intra with carbs

@Type-IIx is the guy to talk to about optimal GH use.

 

[Steve0691]

I dont think it makes much difference when or how often you take it. Dont overcomplicate things. Only factors id consider when deciding how/how are:
Does it make you sleepy during day? Try all before bed
Are you trying to gain weight? Possibly avoid breaking it up in multiple small shots
Do you do fasted cardio? Might as well shoot it before cardio