How "strong" would you rank Primo/Mast as vs Test?

[explodingHeart]

Assuming all other variables are the same (E2, etc.) how would you say they compare to test percentage wise?

Example: Primo is 60% strong as test. Mast is 70%.

 

[lukiss96]

Primo is like one third of Test at best, mast? 10% maybe on a good day with placebo effect on. Really not the players to compare to. All worthless without Testosterone. There is nothing to compare.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

A member on this board described mast perfectly recently. He compared it to putting salt on your food. It's not anything but a little flavor to your cycle. It's not a main driver but will definitely enhance your cycle. I've never done primo but I'd say it's in the same boat. I personally love masteron.

 

[WilliamH.Bonney]

What does "strong" mean? There's really no viable question to answer here. Are you talking about mass, strength, aggression? What exactly do you want to know?

 

[29trt]

masteron will give you increased strength in the gym which in turn will allow you to build more muscle, it might not be as anabolic as primo but primo is shit for strength ....so I'd rather use more test for anabolism with mast than less test with more primo

keep in mind that dht deriv. will fuck up your lipids more than test

at the end of the day you have to experiment for yourself maybe you hate mast....who knows

I tried mast at just 300mg and it gave me a better strength increase than my first test cycle... and even at 600mg i do not get any sides from it....

primo at 700mg gave me ZERO strength increase and marginal muscle gain on top of even more test than I did with mast.... at 3 times the cost....

oh and mast makes you look harder ...

oh and for me mast>test , primo<test for strength

 

[xrayphoton13]

Try them both and see. I hated how I felt on primo. Tried it at 1/4 to 1/2 dose of testosterone. Felt lethargic, low energy, heart rate up, some brain fog. Even mixing primo and mast caused this same feeling
Masteron makes me feel even better and more energetic than test alone. No lethargy. Easy choice for me. Even if primo was as potent as test, I still wouldn't use it because if I feel bad, my gym performance and home life will suffer.

 

[BigTomJ]

Im a big fan of both, but i think the whole argument for "strength" of a compound compared to anything is stupid.

its all apples and oranges, each tool has its use. Which is stronger? a flat head screwdriver or Philips head?

From strictly muscle gain its gonna depend on the individual. I make better progress with a gram of mixed test +mast/primo than on a gram of test alone, but id never say they are "stronger" than test. Thats also not to say that someone else might grow better on just the test.

For me, primo gives me a general sense of wellbeing and lightly manages my estrogen (i still need an AI, just less) and mast makes me strong.

neither options negatively impact my bloodwork as much as a comparable dose of test, making them very safe options for me to run higher/longer than other alternatives.

 

[Wolf7]

I’d take mast over primo any day. Quarter of the price and probably the most well tolerated injectable out there. If lowering E2 is your goal, then mast won’t do that, but I’d take EQ over primo for that any day, and enjoy the collagen synthesis and endurance boost that goes along with it.

 

[narta]

Primo was, is and will continue to be a fad for strength and bodybuilding. At this point in time is THE drug to use along test "safely".

If you are a non competitive gym rat, Test along with hgh is all you need. For the adventurous ones, add another anabolic in the likes of nandrolone or eq and for the idgaf ones, tren.

 

[buzzingonaas]

I’m not sure. Body composition is much better on test+ primo or test+mast vs test only. Body composition while on cycle doesn’t mean a ton though. I do notice I grow better and feel better on 2:1 test to primo vs 1.2:1 or 1:1. So I think for myself it’s safe to say more works better than less test. And a little bit of dht derivative works better than none

 

[BigTomJ]

Primo was, is and will continue to be a fad for strength and bodybuilding. At this point in time is THE drug to use along test "safely".

this.

Primo is often overhyped as the perfect AAS (im definitely guilty of contributing to that as a big fan of primo) but its not that special.
Theres nothing magical about it, while it may be "safer" than some alternatives, its still not the perfectly safe option its often toted as.

I like primo and its included in all my blasts nearly, but i could almost certainly get the same results, while paying way way less with other options.

Primo over the last few years seems to be approaching tren in its mystic efficacy