how to make transdermal testosterone?

[tesarpaul]

Not necessarily.

I am currently applying 500mg transdermal DHEA in the morning.
I will go for a blood test soon to verify that claim.

Whats is the max solutability of DHEA in ethanol? Official sources claim 50mg/ml but I was able to get even to 150 mg/ml. What Is your experience?

 

[Psyco1]

What concentration dhea can reach with dmso?
What do you think of pregnenolone?

 

[Psyco1]

Im using the transdermal test for a few months now and I can say that I have also noticed some "autism" and I cant react socially as I did before. So definitely you are not alone. Im also thinking that I would switch to transdermal DHEA/DHT only.

What do you mean, Autism with use of transdermal T? I never heard about this collateral

 

[callisto]

To all the people making transdermals with DMSO, how and in what did you store it? I thought about buying a glass bottle and a soap dispenser so I didnt have to measure the amount I use with a syringe every time

 

[Inthemixer]

Anywhere, as it doesn't get converted to anything else unlike upstream hormones.

Where is the best place for absorption I meant

 

[Inthemixer]

Anywhere, as it doesn't get converted to anything else unlike upstream hormones.

And is topical dhea better for increasing dht

 

[Deleted member 59947]

And is topical dhea better for increasing dht

Better than what ?

 

[Inthemixer]

Better than what ?

Better than straight dht

 

[Deleted member 59947]

What do you mean, Autism with use of transdermal T? I never heard about this collateral

It's just a phrase saying it makes you dumber, not that you become clinically autistic and that it's backed by studies.
People generally lack self-awareness, and are using long esters, which means testosterone is gradually declining when they come off.

I, on the other hand, am using test base only, which means I can feel change within hours of taking it or discontinuing it.
I can confirm I am substantially dumber and slower when on test.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Whats is the max solutability of DHEA in ethanol? Official sources claim 50mg/ml but I was able to get even to 150 mg/ml. What Is your experience?

200mg/ml works as well.
Never went higher, I make a 100mg/ml solution for every day use.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Better than straight dht

You realize this hasn't been studied and no one has measured how much DHT bloods were after 100mg DHT vs 100mg transdermal DHEA right ?

 

[Inthemixer]

You realize this hasn't been studied and no one has measured how much DHT bloods were after 100mg DHT vs 100mg transdermal DHEA right ?

Does dhea raise testosterone or mostly dht and androsterone

 

[Frostillicus]

Does dhea raise testosterone or mostly dht and androsterone

There are a ton of studies on pubmed about dhea. Or check out ergo-log. Here's one for you:

Hormonal impact DHEA modest in men, significant in women

In the anabolic steroids scene, DHEA is regarded as a barely effective prohormone. The ergogenic effect is subtle - so subtle that you can wonder why DHEA is on the doping list at all. As long as we talk about male DHEA users, of course. But when women use DHEA, well... That's a different story...

www.ergo-log.com

All the studies I've seen show that dhea does not have a strong effect on testosterone.

Does that help clarify things for you?

 

[BouleauBoulot]

What do you mean, Autism with use of transdermal T? I never heard about this collateral

It's quite similar (to a lesser extent) to what you might feel going down ketamine.

I believe that even though 5ar activity increases significantly, even to the point of spitting out e2, testosterone levels are so high that it overwhelms other downstream steroids in the competition for androgen receptors in the brain.

DHT and probably androsterone are actually much more GABAergic than testosterone, so you end up with excessive glutaminergic activity.

-You seem too mentally "wired", easily causing insomnia.
-Paradoxically not too much physical energy, especially if you lack sleep.
Generally not as "grounded" outwardly as without testosterone
-You lose part of your ability to socialize, even to "delirious", you can still make jokes and be sociable if for some reason dopamine is high, but otherwise you just stare into space with a fish face and just have simple conversations with a monotonous tone. Most of the time if you force it is unnatural and you find yourself not knowing how to tone down your sentences or that kind of thing.
-Nothing to do with autism, but in addition to being more likely to have insomnia you are less resilient to lack of sleep. You lose it cortisol relay to forcibly stimulate the CNS, if I have slept badly for several days I can feel sedation and crash about half an hour after applying the base testosterone cream. If the excess lack of sleep is too strong, I even have symptoms of Addison's disease like muscle spasms.

That's how I feel

 

[BouleauBoulot]

There are a ton of studies on pubmed about dhea. Or check out ergo-log. Here's one for you:

Hormonal impact DHEA modest in men, significant in women

In the anabolic steroids scene, DHEA is regarded as a barely effective prohormone. The ergogenic effect is subtle - so subtle that you can wonder why DHEA is on the doping list at all. As long as we talk about male DHEA users, of course. But when women use DHEA, well... That's a different story...

www.ergo-log.com

All the studies I've seen show that dhea does not have a strong effect on testosterone.

Does that help clarify things for you?

True, but I don't care if I have low testosterone if my DHT is very high, as long as the anabolism remains a decent minimum.

 

[Inthemixer]

True, but I don't care if I have low testosterone if my DHT is very high, as long as the anabolism remains a decent minimum.

Yea I just want the dht, have you tried topical dhea

 

[Frostillicus]

True, but I don't care if I have low testosterone if my DHT is very high, as long as the anabolism remains a decent minimum.

Have you ever taken strongly androgenic, dht compounds like masteron? They are not very anabolic & will also tend to crash your estrogen if you don't have enough test in you. Which really makes you feel like shit.

 

[BouleauBoulot]

Yea I just want the dht, have you tried topical dhea

Not yet

Have you ever taken strongly androgenic, dht compounds like masteron? They are not very anabolic & will also tend to crash your estrogen if you don't have enough test in you. Which really makes you feel like shit.

They use masteron because it's low androgenic, like nandrolone or whatever. DHT is still relatively anabolic and expect to have a LOT of it, so…

The majority of men are low in estrogen and therefore not depressed. I'm pretty sure the people reporting this are on exogenous steroids and are deficient in Pregnenolone/DHEA/DHT/androsterone etc due to lack of LH, mishandling of hormones etc. So they rely on estradiol to overstimulate the release of stimulating neurotransmitters, nitric oxide...

My estradiol is low and I feel fine.

 

[Frostillicus]

Not yet

They use masteron because it's low androgenic, like nandrolone or whatever. DHT is still relatively anabolic and expect to have a LOT of it, so…

The majority of men are low in estrogen and therefore not depressed. I'm pretty sure the people reporting this are on exogenous steroids and are deficient in Pregnenolone/DHEA/DHT/androsterone etc due to lack of LH, mishandling of hormones etc. So they rely on estradiol to overstimulate the release of stimulating neurotransmitters, nitric oxide...

My estradiol is low and I feel fine.

I don't even know where to start with your comment. Masteron is definitely not low androgenic. Even a small dose would cause virilization in a female very quickly.

Where did you get the figure that "most men" are low in estrogen and not depressed? If you're low in estrogen and feel fine you are definitely in the minority. Estrogen is also an essential hormone for anabolism so you might wanna consider that.

I feel like you're kinda trying to find a way to prove that dht/dhea is gonna give you the results you want. Hey, if it works for you good on ya. But I would be remiss if I didn't at least chime in and say that based on my experience I think you're gonna be disappointed.

Just my .02, but I hope your experiments go well!

 

[Deleted member 59947]

It's quite similar (to a lesser extent) to what you might feel going down ketamine.

I believe that even though 5ar activity increases significantly, even to the point of spitting out e2, testosterone levels are so high that it overwhelms other downstream steroids in the competition for androgen receptors in the brain.

DHT and probably androsterone are actually much more GABAergic than testosterone, so you end up with excessive glutaminergic activity.

-You seem too mentally "wired", easily causing insomnia.
-Paradoxically not too much physical energy, especially if you lack sleep.
Generally not as "grounded" outwardly as without testosterone
-You lose part of your ability to socialize, even to "delirious", you can still make jokes and be sociable if for some reason dopamine is high, but otherwise you just stare into space with a fish face and just have simple conversations with a monotonous tone. Most of the time if you force it is unnatural and you find yourself not knowing how to tone down your sentences or that kind of thing.
-Nothing to do with autism, but in addition to being more likely to have insomnia you are less resilient to lack of sleep. You lose it cortisol relay to forcibly stimulate the CNS, if I have slept badly for several days I can feel sedation and crash about half an hour after applying the base testosterone cream. If the excess lack of sleep is too strong, I even have symptoms of Addison's disease like muscle spasms.

That's how I feel

You exactly described how I feel on testosterone.

Awkward outter energy that is hard to tone down and that make interractions uneasy.