how to make transdermal testosterone?

[tesarpaul]

Transdermal DHEA carries no sleep discomfort at all, unlike T.
T literally makes me stupid : less judgement, less wit, less memory, less understanding of situation.
And it's not only brought by the lack of sleep, it's a direct action.

What concentration of transdermal DHEA are you using? 200 mg/ml?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

@Goingstronger Have you lost muscle/strength by mainly switching to DHEA?

Yes

 

[BouleauBoulot]

Yes

a lot ? how do you feel physically? Compared to when you are without any product.

 

[IronMachine]

I can only find ethanol undenatured, is that safe to use for this? I live in EU

 

[IronMachine]

Yes, it's weird.

For a week, I went from 400mg of testosterone base per day, to 0 during my vacation, I think that my came back to normal because I had no crash symprome.

But I was actually more masculine than ever during this period, in the more "anchored" and social sense.
I resumed the taste of music too, under testosterone I just want to listen to music loaded in sexuality and/or aggressiveness, no more "joyful".
I am no longer so curious too, in general.

There is also this strange state of ataraxia, my whole family could die in excruciating suffering I would not have to give a damn, even if I like them.

+ Have you tried DHEA/DHT suddenly?

Were you using an AI? That sounds A LOT like low estrogen symptoms

 

[IronMachine]

Hey guys, I made a mix of 45ml ethanol, 5 ml IPM and 7.5g test base.

Which is 90:10 Ethanol/IPM + 150mg/ml T:ethanol/ipm ratio.

However, when I apply, it dries very fast and leaves a LOT of residue, to the point that I wonder if any of it really absorbs, I understand it won't be like DMSO, but there's so much it's making me question whether it's worth it at all.

Anything I can do to improve this?

If you look at the formualtion for androgel they use carbomer 980 to fix that exact issue, not sure if anyone has tried it

 

[BouleauBoulot]

Were you using an AI? That sounds A LOT like low estrogen symptoms

No, never.

But it’s probably true, I have other symptoms (low water retention, dry skin...) but it depends on the times.

That said, it's not too much of a problem for me, i don't experience the classic gabaergic benefits of androgens and other people seem to. And DHEA seems to work well for goingstronger even only transdermally where he has low e2 symptoms.

Perhaps the conversion of testosterone to other more androgenic steroids is grossly insufficient and testosterone largely takes the upper hand in the competition for androgen receptors.

Idk

 

[callisto]

Yes

you said you used sunday natural dmso. is that one okay?

 

[IronMachine]

Most likely wouldn't work as they usually already max out the concentration for any given amount of solvent.

That is a very smart observation and indeed a big risk with no easy way to check. What about i make my own ethanol/ipm at 50mg/ml and then mix that into my androgel 88g bottle
It would make it more like a gel, increase the potency and make it easy to dosage.

 

[MFAAS]

my test is transdermal...it goes right through my skin and into my muscle via a needle!

I couldn't resist....

 

[IronMachine]

my test is transdermal...it goes right through my skin and into my muscle via a needle!

I couldn't resist....

Made me laugh , too bad I am a pussy and refuse to pin. A lot of people here seem to think that if you cant pin you should not do gear. I agree if they agree to do an IQ test before having kids . I think that if you are not smart enought you should not have children.

 

[MFAAS]

Made me laugh , too bad I am a pussy and refuse to pin. A lot of people here seem to think that if you cant pin you should not do gear. I agree if they agree to do an IQ test before having kids . I think that if you are not smart enought you should not have children.

Well, as one who won't be having kids, I think you can do whatever the hell you want to do. lol

All I know is that I have heard a lot of anecdotes about transdermal not working well or working for a while then stopping. I think if you're gonna do transdermal then the best way to do it is to do one of those creams that go on your balls. I am not up to date on the latest research but that seemed to be the way that was best last I heard (again, from anecdotes).

 

[Megadick3000]

Well, as one who won't be having kids, I think you can do whatever the hell you want to do. lol

All I know is that I have heard a lot of anecdotes about transdermal not working well or working for a while then stopping. I think if you're gonna do transdermal then the best way to do it is to do one of those creams that go on your balls. I am not up to date on the latest research but that seemed to be the way that was best last I heard (again, from anecdotes).

In my exoeriences the issue with transdermal isnt effectiveness, it definitely works and well.

The issue is preparatiin, application. Its annoying to apply. Most the solvent suggestions are very watery, so shits gonna leak down your body like bad diarhhea. If you got body hair you should remove it at the application sites, frequently. I found using transdermals to consume substantially more time in a day.

If tyat inconvenience doesnt deter someone, then transdermals are fine to use.

 

[IronMachine]

In my exoeriences the issue with transdermal isnt effectiveness, it definitely works and well.

The issue is preparatiin, application. Its annoying to apply. Most the solvent suggestions are very watery, so shits gonna leak down your body like bad diarhhea. If you got body hair you should remove it at the application sites, frequently. I found using transdermals to consume substantially more time in a day.

If tyat inconvenience doesnt deter someone, then transdermals are fine to use.

That is exactly right. I personally think it is a pain in the ass but i am thankful that there is an alternative to injections.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

That is exactly right. I personally think it is a pain in the ass but i am thankful that there is an alternative to injections.

It was never about fear of needles that this movement was created.

It's to avoid :

PUFA injected straight in your muscles
Abscess risk
Injecting a vein

And boost :

Peripheric conversion to different androgens thanks to the skin being rich in enzymes

 

[Frostillicus]

FWIW, this whole transdermal experiment just didn't work out for me. Both tren base and test base at 100mg/ml in dmso seemed to only have value as pre-workouts but did nothing for me in terms of muscle gain or nutrient partitioning. I would take 100mg per week of tren enth over 100mg per day of transdermal tren every time. Likewise, a slightly higher than HRT dose of test enth for me blows 700mg per week of transdermal test out of the water. Like no contest.
Its hard to explain but its as the transdermals effect me differently than intramuscular, esterfied hormones. Tren was just side effects for me with zero fatloss/muscle gain and test gives me focus and aggression but no pumps or muscle gains. I don't know why this is the case for me but its been my experience after months of experiments with transdermal preparations.

 

[tesarpaul]

FWIW, this whole transdermal experiment just didn't work out for me. Both tren base and test base at 100mg/ml in dmso seemed to only have value as pre-workouts but did nothing for me in terms of muscle gain or nutrient partitioning. I would take 100mg per week of tren enth over 100mg per day of transdermal tren every time. Likewise, a slightly higher than HRT dose of test enth for me blows 700mg per week of transdermal test out of the water. Like no contest.
Its hard to explain but its as the transdermals effect me differently than intramuscular, esterfied hormones. Tren was just side effects for me with zero fatloss/muscle gain and test gives me focus and aggression but no pumps or muscle gains. I don't know why this is the case for me but its been my experience after months of experiments with transdermal preparations.

Have you noticed any "autism" symptoms with the transdermal test? Few people including me noticed that transdermal test makes you sluggish and mentally slow and fucks up your social interactions with other people.

 

[Frostillicus]

Have you noticed any "autism" symptoms with the transdermal test? Few people including me noticed that transdermal test makes you sluggish and mentally slow and fucks up your social interactions with other people.

"Autism" would be a stretch but anxiety is the word I'd use. I didn't notice sluggishness, in fact it seems to get me amped up to the point where I've almost had panic attacks. Tren base is 10 times worse, plus it fucks up your breathing on top of it!

 

[Deleted member 59947]

FWIW, this whole transdermal experiment just didn't work out for me. Both tren base and test base at 100mg/ml in dmso seemed to only have value as pre-workouts but did nothing for me in terms of muscle gain or nutrient partitioning. I would take 100mg per week of tren enth over 100mg per day of transdermal tren every time. Likewise, a slightly higher than HRT dose of test enth for me blows 700mg per week of transdermal test out of the water. Like no contest.
Its hard to explain but its as the transdermals effect me differently than intramuscular, esterfied hormones. Tren was just side effects for me with zero fatloss/muscle gain and test gives me focus and aggression but no pumps or muscle gains. I don't know why this is the case for me but its been my experience after months of experiments with transdermal preparations.

Yes the muscle gains are minimal for me as well on 700mg test base per week.
The fact that it's out of your system for the last 12 hours of the day plays a big role in this.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

FWIW, this whole transdermal experiment just didn't work out for me. Both tren base and test base at 100mg/ml in dmso seemed to only have value as pre-workouts but did nothing for me in terms of muscle gain or nutrient partitioning. I would take 100mg per week of tren enth over 100mg per day of transdermal tren every time. Likewise, a slightly higher than HRT dose of test enth for me blows 700mg per week of transdermal test out of the water. Like no contest.
Its hard to explain but its as the transdermals effect me differently than intramuscular, esterfied hormones. Tren was just side effects for me with zero fatloss/muscle gain and test gives me focus and aggression but no pumps or muscle gains. I don't know why this is the case for me but its been my experience after months of experiments with transdermal preparations.

Glad you commented on tren base as I was considering placing an order for it.
Any crazy libido on it ?