how to make transdermal testosterone?

[Psyco1]

You exactly described how I feel on testosterone.

Awkward outter energy that is hard to tone down and that make interractions uneasy.

How to reverse these symptoms? Without giving up testosterone

 

[BouleauBoulot]

I don't even know where to start with your comment. Masteron is definitely not low androgenic. Even a small dose would cause virilization in a female very quickly.

I just said that Masteron was less androgenic than DHT and even Testosterone, not that Masteron was not very androgenic.

I deduced it by looking at most androgenic/anabolic ratios, I think it's questionable but I don't have 36000 way to verify that, it seems pretty obscure.

Where did you get the figure that "most men" are low in estrogen and not depressed? If you're low in estrogen and feel fine you are definitely in the minority.

At least 5 irl/ivl acquaintances did an estradiol test and they were all between 5 and 50pg/ml, which is not a lot and the one at 10 had no problem.

Estrogen is also an essential hormone for anabolism so you might wanna consider that.

Just because something is anabolic doesn't mean it's healthy.
And I'm not saying that estradiol is not necessary, there must be physiological levels for bone health, brain etc.

I feel like you're kinda trying to find a way to prove that dht/dhea is gonna give you the results you want. Hey, if it works for you good on ya. But I would be remiss if I didn't at least chime in and say that based on my experience I think you're gonna be disappointed.

Just my .02, but I hope your experiments go well!

I am not trying to prove anything, just saying that I would have no problem jumping on the DHEA bandwagon if my muscle mass remains relatively protected.
It should be, I don't have a lot of muscle mass (just "athletic") and I plan to put on a lot DHEA

 

[BouleauBoulot]

You exactly described how I feel on testosterone.

Awkward outter energy that is hard to tone down and that make interractions uneasy.

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How to reverse these symptoms? Without giving up testosterone

Oddly enough, anything that supposedly lowers serotonin (or at any rate increases the cothecholamines to serotonin ratio), seems to work to suppress the autism sensation, but the effect on other neurotransmitters turns them into a catch 22.

Caffeine gives me back my energy and my sense of humor, but worsens the problems related to excess signaling of glutamate, I feel paranoid, overstimulated, even more likely to have insomnia.
For example if I flirt with a girl on it (a good way to check the interest of a substance lol), the jokes and the chat will be more to way more easy, but I will look manic and alternate between overconfidence and rumination.

Cyproheptadine/periactin has the opposite effect,
autism is also suppressed, I have an overconfidence/serenity but I also become excessively phlegmatic. I want to listen to soft or even melancholy music while staring at the horizon.
If I flirt with a girl there, I won't be afraid, but I'll be boring, more out of autism but out of disinterest.

The next experience is tobacco, in cigarettes then in tea or other healthier roa.

 

[Frostillicus]

I just said that Masteron was less androgenic than DHT and even Testosterone, not that Masteron was not very androgenic.

I deduced it by looking at most androgenic/anabolic ratios, I think it's questionable but I don't have 36000 way to verify that, it seems pretty obscure.

At least 5 irl/ivl acquaintances did an estradiol test and they were all between 5 and 50pg/ml, which is not a lot and the one at 10 had no problem.

Just because something is anabolic doesn't mean it's healthy.
And I'm not saying that estradiol is not necessary, there must be physiological levels for bone health, brain etc.

I am not trying to prove anything, just saying that I would have no problem jumping on the DHEA bandwagon if my muscle mass remains relatively protected.
It should be, I don't have a lot of muscle mass (just "athletic") and I plan to put on a lot DHEA

I hope it goes well for you! Let us know the results of your research on here. Im sure if it is successful it is something that the guys in the community will want to hear about

 

[callisto]

To all the people making transdermals with DMSO, how and in what did you store it? I thought about buying a glass bottle and a soap dispenser so I didnt have to measure the amount I use with a syringe every time

anyone an answer to this?

 

[tesarpaul]

anyone an answer to this?

I used plain 30 ml glass bottle with a dropper.

 

[callisto]

I used plain 30 ml glass bottle with a dropper.

thanks. do you think a larger bottle, like 250/500ml with a soap dispenser would work? or should I use a dropper?

 

[tesarpaul]

thanks. do you think a larger bottle, like 250/500ml with a soap dispenser would work? or should I use a dropper?

Thats up to you bro. Whatever you prefer, I just like to use glass bottles. Not sure If the dmso is good to store in plastic.

 

[IronMachine]

It's just a phrase saying it makes you dumber, not that you become clinically autistic and that it's backed by studies.
People generally lack self-awareness, and are using long esters, which means testosterone is gradually declining when they come off.

I, on the other hand, am using test base only, which means I can feel change within hours of taking it or discontinuing it.
I can confirm I am substantially dumber and slower when on test.

I have also seen you mention taking 1gram of testosterone a day orally, did you get bloods to see where that put your testosterone at? I was thinking that Andriol should be farily easy to replicate since it is just Testosterone undecanoate in oil (castor oil i think but i am pretty sure mct oil would do just fine)

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I have also seen you mention taking 1gram of testosterone a day orally, did you get bloods to see where that put your testosterone at? I was thinking that Andriol should be farily easy to replicate since it is just Testosterone undecanoate in oil (castor oil i think but i am pretty sure mct oil would do just fine)

That was test base I was taking orally, completely different dynamics from undecanoate.
Didn't measure bloods while on it.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

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Oddly enough, anything that supposedly lowers serotonin (or at any rate increases the cothecholamines to serotonin ratio), seems to work to suppress the autism sensation, but the effect on other neurotransmitters turns them into a catch 22.

Caffeine gives me back my energy and my sense of humor, but worsens the problems related to excess signaling of glutamate, I feel paranoid, overstimulated, even more likely to have insomnia.
For example if I flirt with a girl on it (a good way to check the interest of a substance lol), the jokes and the chat will be more to way more easy, but I will look manic and alternate between overconfidence and rumination.

Cyproheptadine/periactin has the opposite effect,
autism is also suppressed, I have an overconfidence/serenity but I also become excessively phlegmatic. I want to listen to soft or even melancholy music while staring at the horizon.
If I flirt with a girl there, I won't be afraid, but I'll be boring, more out of autism but out of disinterest.

The next experience is tobacco, in cigarettes then in tea or other healthier roa.

Dating is actually a very good situation to test a substance.
While on DHEA and coffee, it will literrally take me less than 48h between the first text and sleeping with the girl.
Everything is flawless : the sense of humour, the laid back attitude while being witty and energetic, the lack of urge to have sex will drive her nuts.
BUT : I will not desire sex as I would on testosterone, I will be less lusty in bed, and less dominating.
More cudles, more passion, more compliments.
That may suit certain types of women and not others.

On testosterone my texts will sometimes be perceived as overly cocky, during dates I may get brain fog which makes conversation flow worse.
BUT : if I do manage to get the girl back, sex will feel amazing.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

How to reverse these symptoms? Without giving up testosterone

People on this forum need to stop asking broad questions in the hope of having a miracle answer.
After reading the thread, if I had a solution, don't you think I would be applying it already ?

The only solution is to drop testosterone.

 

[BouleauBoulot]

Dating is actually a very good situation to test a substance.
While on DHEA and coffee, it will literrally take me less than 48h between the first text and sleeping with the girl.
Everything is flawless : the sense of humour, the laid back attitude while being witty and energetic, the lack of urge to have sex will drive her nuts.
BUT : I will not desire sex as I would on testosterone, I will be less lusty in bed, and less dominating.
More cudles, more passion, more compliments.
That may suit certain types of women and not others.

On testosterone my texts will sometimes be perceived as overly cocky, during dates I may get brain fog which makes conversation flow worse.
BUT : if I do manage to get the girl back, sex will feel amazing.

sex will be "softer" under DHEA + Coffee or also simply DHEA?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

sex will be "softer" under DHEA + Coffee or also simply DHEA?

Also simply DHEA

 

[BouleauBoulot]

Also simply DHEA

I see.
Erections are stronger on t or DHEA ? and beard growth ?

 

[Gusamaso]

Any update on anyone on DHT+DMSO?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Any update on anyone on DHT+DMSO?

On what aspect :
- solubility ?
- feeling ?
- else ?

 

[Gusamaso]

On what aspect :
- solubility ?
- feeling ?
- else ?

Just to know if anyone else is having success with the solution. Solubility and feeling, yes. Meanwhile, I'm looking for a sterile filtered DMSO in my country

 

[tesarpaul]

Just to know if anyone else is having success with the solution. Solubility and feeling, yes. Meanwhile, I'm looking for a sterile filtered DMSO in my country

You can use 96% ethanol to dissolve the DHT. It has the same solubility.

 

[tesarpaul]

@Goingstronger I can confirm that transdermal DHEA will lower the estrogen levels. Since I have the joint and neck pain. Not sure if my lower back pain is also impacted by this.

So Im using 200 mg oral DHEA to prevent the E2 shutdown and combat the sore joints.

Whats your ratio of transdermal DHEA to oral DHEA? 1:1 (500 mg topical and 500 mg oraly)?